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Christiaan
that there was a special student movement for LGBT+. One student of this organisation has a seat in the school direction and he/she is allowed to help form LGBT+ friendly policy concerning accommodation , (sport) facilities and extracurricular activities.
Christiaan
This particular case would not have been a thing 10 years ago. It's great to see so many positive changes in just a few years time.
Leila
Hm, do we have traditions that don't revolve around beer, white socks in Birkenstock sandals, blocking sunbeds at 3 a.m. - just in case , you know - and being terribly on the righteous side ;)
Leila
Well, one tradition I like is called "Backesfest" or something the likes, depending on where in Germany you live. It originates from when people didn't have individual stoves in their homes and bread and cake was still baked in a communal "Backhaus".
Leila
Some of the villages whose old Backhaus is still functional have small fair once a year, where everything is prepared / baked the traditional way. In some villages visitors are welcome to participate, in others they just come to join in the festivities and buy / eat some traditional Sauerteigbrot.
Leila
Wow, your old school (or is it Dutch schools in general?) is very progressive to offer this kind of support to their LGBT+ students. I think it's a great idea, because kindergarden and school is where change has to start.
Leila
As long as adults and children alike still use terms such as "Du Homo!" or "Du schwule Sau!" (not necessarily towards a gay person but) in jest or to just cuss at one another, the message hasn't sunken in deep enough. But I can also see that we've come a long way already, too!
Leila
Oh, and don't worry about the "Osterpizza" - I'm not sure if it is a German or a my family thing to create Verlegenheitsworte ---"Oh, it's your birthday today, I've got no present but here, let me buy you birthday cigarette / chewing gum / tea ...!"

PS: The dish you describe sounds just like the one my friend talked about. Is it the dough or the Nutella you can't have? Because I wasn't aware they put milk in either.
Christiaan
I really laughed at the sunbeds part. I can't imagine people being that hardcore about fighting for a sunbed, even if it's in the middle of the night. But in a way, we also have a lot of competition on our beaches for a decent spot. Especially in the Summer when the German tourists come out in droves to Scheveningen :)
Christiaan
Ah, having a backhaus in the near vicinity sounds lovely. You've given me another good reason to visit Germany. You Germans do know how to bake the best bread and pastry.Sauerteigbrot is also my favourite bread (which we call zuurdesembrood over here). There's a German bakery nearby where they have this particular kind of bread, apfelstrudel, sachertorte and lots more.
Christiaan
Well, it's not a general thing, but I do know quite a few high schools where they are progressive towards LGBT+ issues.

I agree with you that it should also be accommodated on primary school level and even kindergarten, but I think there's still a pervasive conservative culture in that section of education so hopefully that will change sooner or later.
Christiaan
Well, that anti-LGBT+ pestering was unfortunately quite a thing that I've seen up close at vocational schools during one of my internships. Children from certain conservative-religious backgrounds often parrot their parents that being different in this matter is not 'normal'. It's also the responsibility for teachers to address this in class, but most of my former colleagues couldn't care less
Christiaan
Oh, it's not the dough I've problems with:) Nutella actually contains milk products. Luckily there are also popular brands nowadays like Vego that make hazelnut chocolate paste without any traces of milk and the like.

By the way, lots of vegetarians and vegans here love the German brand Veganz. Have you ever tried their products? Their chocolate, sweets and meat substitutes are the best!
Leila
I just had to check if my Nutella really has milk in it only to realise I've been buying vegan "Nutella" for years. It seems certain brand names have managed to replace the generic term in my head because chocolate spread = Nutella, sticky tape = Tesa, hankies = Tempos,... Weird!
Leila
Oh, my vegan version is called Bionella and tastes absolutely amazing. If you have Kaufland in the Netherlands, you should be able to get it there.
I've tried some of the Veganz products before and you're right, they are really nice. I was quite surprised how much better their cheese tasted compared to what I've tried before. It's unbelievable how much v-products have improved over the years!
Leila
Do you still remember marinading rock hard chunks of soy for vegetarian goulash or sauce Bolognese? A while back, I watched a YouTube video where a young man was telling the world how to prepare his favourite v-dish. I the end he added what he called crunch balls---but only for the last couple of minutes, so they still have this nice crunch to them (his words, not mine).
Leila
It made me laugh so hard, because back then, when dehydrated soy products were the only substitutes available, we've tried everything humanly possible to make them easier to chew and have them lose the weird soy flavour. But now, apparently, they're crunch balls, and the weird aftertaste and chewiness is part of the dinner experience :)
Christiaan
Don't be too bothered about switching things up:) Haha, so apparently you're already a borderline vegetarian-vegan since you're using a vegan chocolate spread.
Christiaan
I wish I could try Bionella. There are quite some positive reviews on consumer sites. I had never heard of Kaufland until you've mentioned it. We're only stuck with Lidl and Aldi, but they are pretty rad in various kinds of ways.
Christiaan
Have you ever dared to try vegan cheese? Wow, you have more courage than I do:) I honestly can't eat faux cheese that contains coconut oil. For me, It gives that plasticky texture and it always reminds me of a cooking set with fake fruit, cheese and vegetables that I used to have when I was 6 years old