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A very loud bar! Even with earplugs.

My most intense days are right after I've had a loud noise exposure. Very tough to get through and I'm always anxious that the sound won't return to baseline.

Yes definitely do that, you'll feel much better for it :)

I would say that you do need to be careful with loud sounds from here onwards, but don't let it completely stop you from doing what you love. I got tinnitus from clubbing at uni last year and it felt like my life was over because I didn't go clubbing any more. But I still went (and go) to...

They're definitely not a cure - agreed! But just thought I'd make aware for people that are in despair with their T that they aren't completely helpless and alone. They can seek treatment even if it's not the cure that we really want.

Bill, your comment hardly qualifies as advice - it just simply would cause someone to have a lot of despair thinking that they now have to give up completely their hobbies and interests that mean a lot to them. I understand where you're coming from, but in my humble opinion you really need to...

Don't agree with this fully to be honest. The way you put it seems as if there's absolutely nothing that can be done for your T. Which isn't true. There's maskers, TRT, tinnitus-specific CBT, and a lot more treatment out there.

Yeah I got them done! My ears feel much better now and the ringing has reduced a bit. In the end I went with water irrigation, which was done in a safe way by someone who had tinnitus herself. She knew what she was doing!

Does it ever get you down? And how do you maintain such a positive attitude? I think it's really admirable :)

When you say loud tinnitus, do you mean it's so loud that you hear it all the time? As in, it's at a 8/10 in terms of intensity?

Bill I believe you are too paranoid about your T! Some tinnitus-specific CBT might help as it seems as if you have a ton of anxiety around a potential spike. These sounds are likely to do no permanent damage to your ears, but instead the anxiety will no doubt be damaging your mental health!

In my opinion the advice on this thread should not be listened to. You're setting yourself up to get severe hyperacusis where every single type of noise results in a spike in T.

I completely agree with you. This forum, while helpful at times, can be a serious breeding ground for anxiety and despair. The majority of people who come on here are in a difficult place and the negativity can be overwhelming. I myself am guilty of being negative on here, which I am trying to...

Will do! I’m actually going to go for manual removal. I had it done before and it was a bit painful, but I don’t trust microsuction or water irrigation due to their associated risks. Microsuction can damage hearing, and irrigation has been known to cause tinnitus

Not great, to be quite honest. My T keeps getting louder! When I posted this almost a year ago, I had no idea what loud tinnitus really meant because right now my sound is far, far louder. Because the T has reached levels that are close to debilitating at times, I'm now taking proper steps to...

Really interesting to hear. Very tempted to try it myself, even though my tinnitus was caused by loud noise exposure. Why do you think the water in your ears gave you tinnitus? Never heard of this happening before.

Hi Bill, sorry for the late reply, my T has been manageable recently so haven’t returned to the site. When things are better, I feel like this website is too much of a reminder. I didn’t go in the end because I was worried about my T, but we did something more exciting instead which was quieter...

Hi all, I really want to go and see the new It movie this weekend at the movie theatre, but worried about the sound levels. I'm planning to wear 15 dB in-ear plugs to cut out some of the sound, but not too much so I can still hear the dialogue. Considering it's a horror film and not action I...

Wow - that's pretty dark(!) You're definitely in the extreme minority when it comes to socialising. I'm an introvert through and through, yet I still enjoy my social interaction and social events, albeit not for extended periods of time as I get tired out. Though you definitely seem to be...

You don't understand my point. Avoiding social events completely can leave you feeling alienated and lonely, regardless of the affect of loud places on the volume of your tinnitus.

Hm, that's a difficult one. I think the sacrifice would be massive if you were to avoid all loud noise places for the rest of your life. Sometimes loud places are super difficult to avoid due to social demands - a wedding, a friend/family member's birthday, etc. And not going at all might weaken...

Bill, your sort of posts here are so negative to the point that it'll scare people that are new to T to their wits' end. While I appreciate your justified concerns about high volume levels, you express it in a very unconstructive way that seems to have the sole purpose of trying to scare others...

Don't worry about flying. I've had a total of 11 flights this summer and for all the flights I've worn in-ear plugs for most of the flight. My T didn't spike at all, as the plugs did a good enough job of blocking out the engine sounds. With some protection the noise levels will be absolutely...

Wow that's pretty impressive, to say the least! Even one of those events, with earplugs, would spike my T significantly. Sometimes even permanently if it's loud enough. You have a pretty solid set of ears :) look after them!

Found that bit very interesting. Seems like there's progress being made towards not only objectively measuring tinnitus, but curing it properly through surgery.

Here's the full report :) Connectivity of precuneus to the default mode and dorsal attention networks: A possible invariant marker of long-term tinnitus http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2213158217301808?via=ihub

I just came across this article and it's really worried me. I had always assumed that T was generally harmless, but now it seems like my loud, intrusive T may actually be bringing about real changes in the way my brain operates. Scary stuff, to be honest. I am finding hard to relax, and I get...

You're so right, I actually felt less self-conscious knowing that the guy that everyone was watching on stage was wearing giant earmuffs as well!

Not true at all. For most people it does improve - there are so many people on here who have come and gone, simply because the noise has reduced/they've habituated so they don't feel the need to come back. There is always a chance it'll improve, no matter how bad it seems at the moment.

Yeah his performance was great! I saw him at a festival in manchester, uk. It was outdoors so it wasn't super loud, but I wore double protection, 33Db in ear and 32Db earmuffs, like Frank's haha My T increased a bit but has since gone down and I'm better at habituating when it comes to loud...

I saw Frank Ocean in concert about a month ago and was wondering the same thing!! It looked pretty striking on stage, and at first thought it might just have been a fashion statement, but now I'm not so sure as it seems he wears it at every concert! Those earmuffs definitely have monitors in...

I've got the Peltor X3As and the X5As, and the X3s are a good bit slimmer. The noise reduction is still superb.

Clubbing caused my tinnitus - have a look at my old posts and I was in serious despair. Since then, every clubbing/loud music event has made the T a bit worse. Please be careful if you're gonna go clubbing! The earplugs I use are the Flare Audio Isolates and they do a fantastic job, though no...

I'm 20 and have just finished my last year of university. I unfortunately got noise-induced T at the very start of the year, meaning that I've had a year of a number of loud noise exposures (2 club nights [stupidly], bars, and two concerts). Now that university is over, I have no obligation...

I would go. Although you have to make some lifestyle changes for sure, you can't live your life as a hermit. With the right protection your ears will be fine. I actually feel that in these instances, not going can do more damage to your state of mind than experiencing an expected (but...

I've come back from 3 days of watching motor racing (with double hearing protection) and my T is at its loudest ever. I can't fall asleep!

Uncertainty about the future. I'm only 20 years old and have my whole life to live, yet I have severe and intrusive T. I've had to change my lifestyle - no headphones, keep times spent in loud places to a minimum - alongside the fear that it'll keep getting even worse. My friends do...

Mine is what I'd call pretty severe (quite piercing, can hear it over pretty much everything), however I've managed to habituate to an extent as I can go hours without noticing it when I'm really engrossed in a task. Quiet times are the worst, especially evenings, because my T is so much more...

So.... I did go to that concert and my T has CONSIDERABLY spiked... @Michael Leigh your words about the mastoid bone seems to be right here, the bass was certainly loud and I'm back at square 1 again, kicking myself. Seriously, people, T does not mess around! I stood too close to the...

What a fantastic post. This makes me rethink the countless times I haven't been 'kind' to my ears - concerts, clubs, bars, etc. - yet they still hang on (albeit with horrible Tinnitus). Next time I lament about not being able to go to the cinema or to a concert, I'll try to remind myself that...

Went to the two-day music festival that I had planned for a long, long while - wore double protection but T is extremely loud now!

That's definitely reactive tinnitus - I have it too. Reactive tinnitus is a strange one because the T can spike from specific sounds at lower volumes, even if the volume isn't at all damaging your ears. This seems to be the case with you. It sounds like you're not subjecting yourself to very...

Glad to know I'm not alone with that sort of reactive T :) I really wanted to go and watch Rogue One a second time but didn't think it was worth the risk, so watched it on blu ray instead. Just out of curiosity, how loud do sounds need to be give you significant spike like that one caused by...

Thank you so much for this post. Totally agree - perspective is important.

In a similar situation. I have loud noise-induced tinnitus yet I don't want to avoid concerts and cinemas for the rest of my life. I saw the new Star Wars film in December with ear 36Db ear defenders on (quite ridiculous, I know), but had to remove them during the dialogue so I could actually...

The sound will be muffled for sure, but I want to reduce the risk of my T getting worse as much as I can. So even though I'll be standing towards the back with two types of hearing protection on, it'll be worth it if I get no/minimal increase in T. I've had to accept that I must change the way...

In a similar situation to you - I'm going to 2 concerts this summer. My plan is to double up with hearing protection. Going to wear 33Db in-ear plugs and then over the top 33Db ear defenders. They look like headphones so hopefully I won't stand out too much!

Coping :)

Was the tinnitus severe in the sense that you were simply unable to concentrate properly to get any work done? Or was it more to do with anxiety about the T? I'm currently preparing for important university exams and finding T particularly distracting when I'm trying to revise. Hopefully if my...

Highly reactive T! Only returns to baseline after I've had a night's sleep. Not sure what to do.

October 2016, music too loud in a nightclub!

I think it varies depending on the person. As your T is quite new it's definitely good that you aren't listening via headphones. I think I will give it a go in a couple of months and pay extra close attention to any changes in my T to make sure there isn't an increase :)

Lack of sleep over a couple of days has sent T through the roof, what I think most people would consider severe levels. Managing to cope.

Thanks for the info. I'm gonna give it at least another 6 months before I think about returning to using headphones because my T is relatively new. And hang in there, things get better over time, whether it's the noise decreasing in volume or your ability to deal with it improves :)

Thank you, I've started implementing your rule of thumb this past week and it has helped me in a couple of occasions where I almost played music too loud ( around 65-70Db but is still too loud for my recovering ears) :)

Did you go to the concert? If so, was there any change in your T?