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Tympanometry printed results give some decent information. Other tests are LDV, ECR and wideband tympanometry for checking ossicular disruption / discontinuity, flaccid ear drum etc. There can be ETD without blatant tympanometry results or fluid. Other tests are ET test on ENT machine, it...

Hi Ella, - you can have a tympanometry test done and printed (to know exactly how bad it is and also have a point of reference for future evaluation, ENT also sees the ear drum color, position and possible wax covering it) - you can have an ET endoscopy that you could also ask to be recorded...

Seroquel 1 pill before bed time 25mg (although one may need to adjust to higher dose) Seroxat 1/2 pill after breakfast 20mg (so 10mg) First one aids with sleep. Second one is mild anti-depressant to raise serotonin and keep it there.

I tried to make a somewhat small useful post of those somatic tinnitus articles we link, maybe someone can go to his physiotherapist more prepared or self-diagnose to an extent. Anyway. //Questions Do they have or priorly had neck or jaw pain or stiffness? Clicking in the jaw, indicating that...

Just wanted to add that chamomile effect was obviously short-lived (don’t wanna give false hope) but my second visit to the psychiatrist was not. I finally decided to start taking medication temporarily along with a balanced diet to recover from the shock tinnitus has caused to my brain and...

My tinnitus started as a loud piercing high pitch tone in my left ear and immediately radiated to the right ear. Both ears, constant, with sensitivity to certain sounds, sent me to a nervous breakdown I never thought possible. I would rate my tinnitus a solid 5. For 45 days, I tried tests...

I have a feeling that structural changes to the ear or - for the unlucky ones - anatomical predisposition, leads to a reduced activation of the muscle responsible for dampening sounds and thus trauma occurs. I mean, a healthy young person gets tinnitus but a 300-pound marlin competing in slap...

It’s the other way around. Your cortisol increases because of the stress tinnitus gives to you. Cortisol is mandatory for us, the hard part is for it to be balanced in production and related to other hormones. Balance is key. I hope you can improve. Try finding some GOOD hand-picked chamomile...

Your X-ray looks fine to me as far as the TMJ is concerned. I believe that masticatory muscles can change the mandible and therefore the bite, which creates anatomical changes that can affect the ear directly, muscle hyperactivity and tension that can affect the CNS. Check last 2 posts there...

Supposedly the mechanism of evil causing it all. To be continued.

https://goodhealthcentre.co.uk/tinnitus-temporomandibular-joint/ THEORIES OF TMJ INVOLVEMENT IN TINNITUS The chewing muscles’ approximation to the inner ear can impact on hearing if the muscles become too tense. (Temporalis, Masseter, Pterygoid). By the muscles becoming tense it may alter the...

No. I’ve been told my gum and teeth roots are normal. I don’t have bleeding, pain or anything.

Okay. I had scans, no infection in teeth or gum or jaw. A month before tinnitus I went to the dentist because my front upper tooth chipped. I was a nail biter. He filled the missing part and then sort of slathered the whole front part up to the gum with the same material, to give it a smooth...

I once read an article about it but lost it. It has to do with a part of the brain perceiving sound that has two sides, an alert one (like, when you say “shhh” and try to hear something in silence?) and a passive/default one. Tinnitus causes hyperactivity of the alert part, rightfully so. The...

However, I continued the tests. The theory does seem to stand as the primary suspect. I had all my family members perform tests in their Eustachian tubes. I have family members with tinnitus, nothing at all and some with legitimate jaw problems, both movement and nerve / pain wise. They all...

I guess you could do an MRN, could be a vestibular issue. Try chamomile in boiled water and add some honey, it works as a natural relaxer. If that can get you to sleep fine, you’ve won half the battle.

Not only it moves the jaw, it can also change the angle of the upper palate (not widen it but make it more like /\ if you get me). It also changes the muscle under your chin and that is just a domino effect, everything changes. Your lower jaw can be pushed backwards, you name it. If I were you I...

Genius my a**. Guys, here is the verdict from going to more physiotherapists: it’s a skull bone issue, a nerve irritation issue or a muscle dysfunction issue. Manifests as cranial dystrophy, pain, joint issue, muscle tension and/or Eustachian tube dysfunction. You can try some stuff, even...

Okay. It comes down to one thing. TMD. X-rays don’t lie. Tongue posture probably worked as an appliance and messed my upper palate up, creating an improper bite, forces created cranial misalignments, accompanied by muscle tension, tension to the ligaments too and tinnitus eventually snapped. I...

Alright, here are images of 2017 and 2020 x-rays. 2017 is long before I started mewing or clenching hard, 2020 one I took after tinnitus onset so it’s fresh. Also took a cephalometric one that same day. Both X-rays same facility, machine, posture and bite to the machine to take the X-ray...

So the story goes, I was a mouth breather. That can be detrimental to one’s face. I already had nail biting and clenching to my arsenal of bad deeds but frankly I was cleared by all doctors and was told my bite and teeth are fine. It’s true they are, but I wanted to somehow improve my facial...

Since the neck has been thoroughly examined and treated, to no avail, there is no implication. Plus, one eventually discovers that the jaw not only is responsible for neck discomfort but also is responsible for pretty much everything else. Here are some random text from articles to begin with...

No you were hard mewing and so was I. It isn’t a contributing factor, it’s the only factor. I’ll update you soon regarding that. It causes all kinds of things, depending what nerves are being irritated. And yes; we f’d up big time but I’ll have updates soon.

You don’t have ear damage. You have done the same bs I have, which is hard / improper mewing, I read your introduction while looking for relevant threads here about mewing. We messed your upper palate up and apparently now our jaw joints are too close to the ear. Muscle tension is definitely not...

There are three main theories behind why problems with the TMJ may cause tinnitus, or make it worse. Firstly, the chewing muscles are near to some of the muscles that insert into the middle ear and so may have an effect on hearing, and so may promote tinnitus. Secondly, there can be a direct...

I’m having TMD and apparently it can cause ETD which IMO is why tinnitus starts although it isn’t that simple. I write more about it in my thread just now. I was just curious because if you did have ETD (in the form of more than normal middle ear pressure, they print a paper like the one I will...

Yeah, trying to find tinnitus root is a joke. An absolute joke. Apparently, the cartilage between the condyle and the socket has nerve endings and they relate to the ear, the outer ear for sure but I think whole ear too (?). So when a condyle acts up, it may irritate a nerve, nerve gives...

It appears the chapter of ETD is almost done for. I will share a detailed endoscopy and diagnosis of my ET next week. It seems a new chapter opens called “oh how I messed up my jaw by clenching and applying tongue force to my upper palate”. To be continued.

Been reading a bit about jaw and maxilla stuff. Came to this post “condyle presses against nerve endings and strains aligaments by the ear, and this causes the tinnitus” @KWC I have no idea how exactly to fix that but apparently it’s a known issue and stems from a recessed lower jaw. That...

Thank you for the detailed post. Mine came out of nowhere and really messed me up because silence was my way of relaxing. Maybe that means my nerves were already messed tbh, taking Valerian root literally gave me a new tone but sort of helped overall. I try desperately to find a cause and...

Is it literally gone or do you mean you’re completely habituated to it and it will only show up when you look for it? Because that’s 2 completely different things.

Do you have ETD? Have you done a tympanometry test and if yes, did they find abnormal middle ear pressure? Just trying to figure something out.

What about salicylic acid applied topically in the scalp daily in doses higher than normal and without washing it off for some time? It is stated that it can penetrate the skin but doesn’t really say it causes tinnitus, unlike the oral form. But it is said tinnitus can begin via activation of...

If you place your hand at the back of your head, where all the nerve endings are, then move your eyes far right and left, you can feel movement. Back there are all nerve endings. You should do a thorough ETD endoscopy with recorded video, read my thread. I’ve booked for one too. Acupuncture is...

Yes, I believe it can. Literature states that the muscle involved in the opening and closing of the ET (which theoretically is the cause of somatic tinnitus, regardless of where ETD stems from) is directly attached to the tensor tympani muscle, a muscle directly linked to hyperacusis. It’s very...

Just to put a full stop at this for a while, here is a sum up: Tests for the TMD to do: CMS, EMG, ESG, CBCT, MRI, X-rays Additional tests: ET endoscopy with recorded video footage and careful diagnosis, Tympanometry with printed results, Audiogram with printed results Treatments that seem to...

So, in other words, somatic tinnitus onset is the word “dysfunction”. The main player is ET, the condition is ETD, the evidence being increased middle ear pressure seen with a tympanic membrane test. The common cause stated is TMD, the common condition is muscle spasms, which means there may...

Muscles relevant to ET: Tensor Veli Palatini: The tensor veli palatinitenses the soft palate and by doing so, assists the levator veli palatiniin elevating the palate to occlude and prevent entry of food into the nasopharynx during swallowing. Insertion: Palatine aponeurosis Origin: Medial...

This is it. Eustachian tube dysfunction, the root of evil, took me forty five days to determine exactly how to approach it. So, - it can be the muscles responsible for operating it being jammed by other muscles (which would explain a misaligned jaw or discomfort so the issue here isn’t the...

Long Term Outcomes of Cross-Hatching Eustachian Tuboplasty This is the single cause of somatic tinnitus. Rule out far more serious ear disorders and get to this quickly as ignoring it can lead to more serious issues. Of course, ETD could not possibly be easy to treat or detect which is why...

So, physiotherapist did TENS, some new stuff, trigger points in my trapezoids released, worked my upper and middle back, started doing 2 exercises for postural changes and eliminating the trapezoids from the game. Zero help for tinnitus but lots of help in general. The issue with ETD persists...

https://www.practicalpainmanagement.com/amp/166 May the reader be reminded that the eustachian tube is a passage between the oropharynx and the middle ear. The recurrent soft tissue infections with swelling caused compression of the auditory tube by continuous palatine muscle hyperactivity and...

Do benzos help with sleep? I mean, help you sleep like before, deep beautiful uninterrupted sleep and wake up feeling as if you’ve slept 2 days. My nervous system is obviously in a shock and while I read this discussion with great attention, if you leave your CNS like trash for long, it isn’t...

Alas, here we go. This is it. These two videos describe in actual detail many if not all the complications arising in the Eustachian tubes. There are a few more videos I found about a “pseudo tympanic membrane” and cholesteatoma which you can find online easily and basically can be the...

Melatonin is useless for sleep if your CNS is the problem. Valerian root on the other hand does work but as long as the mind is hooked, those won’t solve anything. Unfortunately we are all in this damn thing and I know a few people with loud tinnitus who are totally fine, I mean they sleep like...

I had a breakthrough, will update the other thread @Forever hopeful. Anyone with ETD should check it out. It isn’t a cure but you’ll know what you have. Treatments I suppose can range from splints to tongue rehabilitation to medication.

I think I have driven my nervous system at this point thus I’m going away from the forum. I documented my thoughts and information in attempts to help and I hope one day I’ll be able to post in success stories, whether it’s habituation or - hopefully - complete remission. I leave a link of a...

It isn’t louder, it’s the same pitch. I also mistakenly thought it gets louder because of supposedly irritating / suppressing my sub-occipital etc. It is literally the same pitch. We are, sadly, fixated at it all day (even at times that we think we are not, the mind races) and at night the...

First therapy treatment with Quantum machine, replacing old TENS, this one automatically finds the muscle and works at that depth. Followed by manual treatment on he SCM, Scalenes and I’ll push for more treatment in the front. Manual treatment included trigger points and stretching. One small...

Taking my first 1 mg of melatonin did absolutely nothing. I will continue taking it for a week and seek counseling, sleep is the main issue now, not tinnitus. I hope I can come back having won this and will document everything.

Some general findings I hope they help you: “There are three main theories behind why problems with the jaw joint may cause tinnitus, or make it worse. Firstly, the chewing muscles are near to some of the muscles that insert into the middle ear and so may have an effect on hearing, and so may...

Just had a Halls Original Coolwave watching Nadal dismantle Djokovic while all my friends are cautiously making fun of me chewing gum and drinking beer. Since my nostrils are clean, anything I do for nostrils actually gets up to my ET fairly easily. It felt really nice and popping ears became...

Yes, I will abstain from any type of exercise, thank god I always check this forum before starting something now haha. I can’t wait to visit my first TMJ specialist and then a myofasfial guy who supposedly is good with the jaw. When I called him to book an appointment, his first question was if...

I was reading up on an article about TMD exercises and was literally about to do just that. Greg, you keep saving me from further damage hahaha!

@Jordanmjk0 Ah, another ETD + TMD fellow. Join the club my friend. Pulsatile tinnitus probably from blood flow close to the ear but don’t know jack about the subject tbh. You probably need a splint, jaw muscle work and probably take a look at your neck too because TMD not only graces us with...

Another night of a ridiculous 4 hour sleep followed by a semi-sleep-semi-awake 2 & 2 hours. I went through the entire ten pages of some guy named Engineer who had ETD. I have been reading on muscles and how they can affect the ear structures, combined with a few very interesting posts by...

After more extensive self-testing, the truth is probably not so simple. Injuries in the pelvis, abdomen, or general instability in the pelvis is associated with all this. The upper back curves to balance everything, diaphragmatic breathing is impacted from weak or strain abdomen, therefore...

Allow me to make an assumption with confidence that you never had acoustic trauma and the concert didn’t do anything more than stress your already stressed eardrum. It is ETD that’s causing it all. I have it and pretty much everyone else who shows no hearing loss and tinnitus. The only test...

Do you get quality sleep now? Are you on any type of drugs to assist you with sleep, well-being, blood pressure etc?