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I don't know the cost and the during of a session. I have just find this clinic on the web. I have share this for say that the power and wavelength are similar with your lamp. So yes it is interesting that the clinic use the same device that you.

Oh sorry I did not put the link. http://www.robert-kroll.com/lasertherapie

On this website he speak about a 3W at 810 - 905 nm Laser but I think it is not laser. A 3W laser can cut cardboard and burn skin immediatly. The lamp that you have buy and Bobby B has advised is at the same power. But on the website they didn't speak about the exposure time.

Have you try this lamp on your ear? Do you think that you should protect your eyes?

Coleoptere, do you have some improvement with your 100mW Led device? Me I have stop using it because the LED and the electrical resistance heat the skin near to the LED. And It makes an unpleasant feeling.

Yes, do you use the same led?

Here: http://www.ledperf.com/led-cablee-rouge-12v-p-389.html It is a french website but you can find the same led on many websites.

My new LLLT device, 200mW LED at 620 nm.

Ok, thank you.

In this website the authors speak about a maximum of 100 mW/cm² and he say that 30mW/cm² is a good power. He says that a power bigger than 150 mW/cm² heat too much the skin, how do you not burn yourself with 5 or 10 W device? Bobby B, why you use more powerfull LED device?

Hi, I have build my first LLLT device, it is powered by arduino nano but the led are not very powerful. I have mesured the electric current 7 mA and the LEDs are supplied with 5 V. So the power is less than 35 mW. Now you speak about Watt power not mW so I think that my device is not enough...

I am also interested for a test with your laser and a precise method.

Any news from Pumpkinate?

Do you always continue LLLT? It is always useful for you? Which LED do you use now (power, wave length)?

What is the power of each LED?

What power you advice us? How long per day?

Yes 600nm can be interesting, but the conrad LED that you show are CMS LED I beleive.

About dosage, we don't know how many power exactly we need. On the last study shared by you, they talk about 50mW/cm², the eardrum is about 1cm², a few people use 10W LED, I'm agree that the 3/4 of power don't go in the ear but there are about 2,5W on the eardrum, 2,5W/cm². So 50X the power used...

I'm reading a study shared by CityJohn. They say that: "Wavelengths in the range 600–700 nm are used to treat superficial tissue, and longer wavelengths in the range 780–950 nm, which penetrate further, are used to treat deeper-seated tissues" And "Wavelengths in the range 700–770 nm have been...

Do not fight, we are in the same side. We all want to find the best way to operate LLLT. I use it in the meantime my LEDs order. http://www.ikea.com/fr/fr/catalog/products/00192363/ I don't know if it usefull lol. They say 6W on the datasheet.

They talk about LLLT, sorry it is in French: http://www.multiesthetique.fr/articles/led-et-maladies-veineuses

Hi Bobby B, Like @RUM and @Foncky I'm also interested in the device you build and the treatment you toke. Can you share information and help us? The most advanced are CityJohn, Bobby B and maybe others. I have not yet build a device, I just start to order LED and LED driver. I think to order...

Ok, I would like to say, 810 nm heating the skin than 650 nm, my english is poor. LLLT don't work for you, so you will stop your reasearch or continue? I think that the anti-inflammatory effect of LLLT show in one of your shared paper is very interesting and useffull for the middle-ear.

Ok thanks you very much for your explanations. For the video I'm not enough good in english for listen and understand completely the video. What do you use? 10 W LED? Now do you have an improvement? How many time do you use it? And another thing, on the scientific publication shared by cityjohn...

Ok, so the difference between a laser without the lens and a LED at the same power is that the wavelength is one value for the LASER and a large spectre for the LED?

Hi, I'm a new member, I have hyperacusis and tinnitus and I'm French. This thread is very interesting. But I ask me about this study that CityJohn have published. https://www.tinnitustalk.com/attachments/nir-penetration-pdf.10929/ The authors speak about 50mW LED, 200mW LED, 10W laser and 15W...