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My parents both have tinnitus. Neither experienced a spike after dose 1, 2, or their booster doses. They got Moderna for all 3 doses.

Had my tinnitus followed a vaccine rather than a loud night out at a salsa club, you can bet your ass I'd have found a way to report it. I get that some people may not report tinnitus after the vaccine. That's why I said let's assume the actual number is 100× higher than what's reported. Even...

12,000 reports of tinnitus out of 430,000,000 doses is more like .002%. Even if there are 100× more tinnitus events than reported you're still talking about 0.2%. Tinnitus is an extremely rare side effect of these vaccines.

Just an update for those that may be waiting for the Novavax vaccine. They've submitted for emergency use approval to the WHO, which means submissions to the UK/EU/US/AUS shouldn't be far behind. Good news for those holding out for a non-mRNA vaccine.

I have no idea what any of this nonsense means.

I want my 3rd shot, but I still can't even convince myself to go get the 2nd one lol. For what it's worth, my parents have gone rogue and gotten their 3rd doses and their antibodies have gone from the 300s 6 weeks after dose 2, to over 2500 6 weeks after dose 3, so it seems the boosters do a...

Novavax COVID-19 vaccine is a protein subunit vaccine which is a completely different technology than the existing vaccines. It's tech that's been used in previous vaccines like the Hep B vaccine. It seems to cause less frequent and less severe side effects than the Adenovirus and mRNA vaccines.

Maybe you could go get the newest antibody test so you'll know for sure whether or not you need the second dose? Apparently this test can distinguish between vaccine generated antibodies and antibodies from natural infection, so if you test positive for antibodies from natural infection you...

I think they'll get their manufacturing worked out relatively quickly. The CEO of Novavax said they're still planning to submit for EUA sometime in October, which means it will likely be late November or early December before its available. I wish they'd start up another clinical trial or...

I do actually. I had to scroll back through my Google photos and find it lol. At cruise the dB level was fluctuating between 66-70 dB. I didn't have the dB meter running during takeoff but I remember that I couldn't even hear the buzz of the engine. I couldn't believe how quiet it was.

During engine start and takeoff, the noise level behind the engines is a good bit louder (10 dB, give or take). At cruise, the difference is negligible (2-4 dB). If you end up sitting behind the engines, I'd just sit as close to the rear as possible. It tends to be quieter the further away you...

I'm curious if there is anyone else here holding out for the Novavax COVID-19 vaccine? From what I've read, it seems to be far less likely to cause side effects than the existing vaccines. It seems like it could be a good option for those of us that are worried about the vaccine worsening our...

Air France took their first A350-900 delivery in 2019, so if you did the YYZ-CDG flight on Air France you'd be on a practically brand new plane. I can't imagine any plane ever being quieter than a brand new A350-900.

There are plenty of studies published in reputable journals on the high rate of prevalence of long COVID-19. You can find them on your own relatively easily if you wish. You want me to back up my statements while you've done nothing to back up yours lol. So I'll say to you also, provide some...

No problem at all! Happy to help. I'll definitely come back and post anytime I fly these next few months. With regards to British Airways, London to Toronto, it looks like they're using 787-8s that are anywhere from 5-8 years old. You can actually check the age of the particular plane on any...

Lufthansa, Cathay Pacific and Qatar Airways A350s are all super quiet and cruise around 65-68 dB in the front of the plane. I think the A350s, 787s on any Middle Eastern or Western carrier would all be about the same. I'd probably avoid any of the SE Asian and African carrier, with Singapore and...

I credit card churn and pay with points if I'm paying for myself, and if my company pays they always fly me Business so I'm rested and ready to work when I arrive (I still never arrive rested lol).

Honestly, I was disappointed with how loud the A380 was when I flew it pre-COVID-19 (80ish dB at cruise, row 1 on the upper deck). The 787-9 and A350-900 were both significantly quieter at cruise (right at 70 dB for the 787-9 and 65-68 dB on the A350-900, both in the first three rows of the...

Just got off my flight and have some measurements for you. From seat 1A, engine start hit 75-78 dB. Takeoff peaked at 88 dB (for less than 1 minutes) and then dropped down closer to 75 dB once engines were throttled back a bit. At cruising altitude once we reached top speed we maxed out at 80...

Mild cases of COVID-19 can cause long term issues, including new or worsened tinnitus, so I'm not all that comforted by delta having a low death rate, since my primary concern with COVID-19 is a tinnitus spike. The rest of what you've said is utter nonsense so I won't bother with a response.

So what's the alternative with regards to COVID-19? With the Delta variant spreading rapidly in most countries, unless one is able to lock themselves in their home for the next year or so, the choice is likely either get COVID-19 or get the COVID-19 vaccine. You think folks ought to take their...

Yeah, I'll be in the very front row in Business Class. I'm assuming it'll be a bit quieter up there but I'll definitely get measurements from several different spots once we're at cruise.

No problem at all my friend! I'm happy to help out. I will be seated in 1A and will get readings from there for engine start (this tends to bother me more than anything when I fly), taxi, takeoff and cruise. Once the seat belt sign is off I'll walk back to the back and take readings next to...

I'm flying the a321 NEO next week actually. I will take my dB meter and report back.

I've flown the a321 as recently as last month. In seat 1A, at cruise, my decibel meter read 74-78 dB. Takeoff was around 85 dB for a minute or two and then dropped to 80 dB or so until reaching cruise. The NEO would likely be even quieter.

I was in Seoul from September 2020 until December of 2020. They're doing far more than just masking. Quarantine for all arrivals, contact tracing apps and QR code scanning for pretty much all business, widespread testing, capacity caps, and rolling restrictions when cases rise even just a small...

You're not going to get it because I reported that my spike subsided completely?

COVID-19 has been proven to worsen tinnitus, so either way you're taking a risk.

I'm wondering if that could just be a coincidence. Having tinnitus start for no real reason happened pre-COVID-19, so of course it still happens now. It could very well be that it's happening randomly and being wrongly attributed to the vaccine.

Did you get a spike after the first and second dose or just the second?

If we don't get the second dose, we still risk a spike from a COVID-19 infection. It sucks. We have no good options here.

From what I've seen it appears to be a bit of a mixed bag. I've seen a few people that didn't spike at all from dose 2. A few that had temp spikes from dose 2. And a few that got significantly worse, longer lasting spikes with dose 2 vs dose 1. I've been researching how effective one dose is...

Yeah, I just wish my brain would cooperate long enough to get the needle in my arm. If one has a spike from the first dose, would it not make sense for that person to forego the second dose? I'm trying to convince myself to get the second dose, but given the spike from the first, the fact that...

Is there anyone here that spiked from the first dose and decided to go ahead with the second anyway? I had a moderate spike after my first Moderna dose back in February that lasted close to a month before reverting to near baseline. My doctor has recommended I go ahead and follow up with the...

You're so kind, thank you! I actually ended up backing out. I just couldn't get myself to go through with it. I've convinced myself that since I had a temporary spike from the first one, odds are I'll end up with a worse spike the second time around. I plan to try again tomorrow. Hoping I can...

This is what's driving me to get my second dose. I could probably put it off, but I'm going to have to do it eventually, so may as well get it over with. Can't believe you caught COVID-19 twice. That's such bad luck. So glad to hear it didn't cause you any long term issues :)

Well, it looks like I'm going for my second dose tomorrow, much to my chagrin. I really, really don't want to do it since my first jab left me with a month-long spike. But I've got a 19 hour flight coming up, and I'll be stuck in a country with a high level of COVID-19 spread for the next 6...

That is awful. I'm so sorry to hear that. I sincerely hope you make some improvements over the next few months!

It seems like a permanent increase is significantly more likely from COVID-19 infection than from the vaccine, so probably worth the risk getting vaccinated unless you're living in a country with extremely low COVID-19 rates.

From the studies I've seen, it appears tinnitus is exacerbated in roughly 6% of COVID-19 infected individuals vs. 0.50% of vaccinated individuals. So it seems like the obvious choice here is to risk the spike with the vaccine, as the risk of spiking tinnitus appears to be much lower. Still, it's...

I'm so terribly sorry to hear you're having such a rough go mate. I've read it could take 3 to 6 months for post COVID-19 vaccine spikes to subside, so don't give up hope that your tinnitus will subside to much more tolerable levels at some point soon! If I were able to hang out at home in the...

What about the risk of COVID-19 infection worsening tinnitus? I've had one dose of Moderna and got a temporary spike from it, and I'm really on the fence about the second dose. I think eventually I'll get it since COVID-19 itself is much more likely to worsen tinnitus. It sucks we don't seem to...

Hey Michael. I just wanted to ask you, if you had received a bad spike from the first dose, would you have followed through with the second dose? I have found your posts to be extremely helpful over the years and I have a tremendous amount of respect for you, so just wanted to get your opinion...

Yes, it did. Three weeks after the jab my tinnitus had reverted to baseline. I'm not sure it ever really spiked if I'm being honest. I was just way more focused on it after getting the vaccine.

I've been wondering, if you took a group of 100 random tinnitus sufferers that have not received the COVID-19 vaccine and polled them throughout the course of a month to see how many had permanent or temporary spikes, what percentage would report having a spike of some kind throughout that time...

Hey there! I decided not to get the second dose. I'm currently in Thailand where COVID-19 is extremely, extremely rare. So I figured it wasn't worth the risk to get the second dose given how low cases are here. If I were in the US or somewhere with a really high case count, I probably would have...

Update on the above: I got a worse tinnitus spike a few days after the initial tinnitus spike had returned to baseline. That spike is still ongoing. I'm two weeks removed from the first dose now. I'm concerned about some of the ingredients in the Moderna vaccine. Seems like Pfizer and J&J may...

Can one of you more scientifically inclined people help me out with something? There's an ingredient in the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine called Tromethamine. I did some googling and it appears that there is a drug with Tromethamine in it called Toradol (Ketorolac Tromethamine) that is known to...

I had been doing well these past few years. My tinnitus was very mild and seemed to be stable no matter what I did. I took meds, took a bunch of vaccines (even the hep A vaccine which I found out later has an aminoglycoside antibiotic in it), traveled to 40 or so different countries, had noise...

Just an update... My spike has subsided and my tinnitus is back to baseline. I'm convinced the spike was due to the drive and/or wax.

I got my first Moderna injection on Monday night. I had a mild tinnitus spike start a few hours after the injection, but I figure that's due to having to drive 3 hours each direction to get it (my tinnitus always spikes after a long drive). By Tuesday morning I was back to normal. Going to...

Hey Bill! I've been told by my doctor I need to supplement with vitamin D for a bit, as my levels are a bit low. I'm curious, did you find that it had any negative impact on your tinnitus? I don't want to make things worse for myself by increasing my tinnitus just for a few months of increased...

Well, it's pretty well accepted that covid can attack just about any and every organ system in the body. Take a look at this research published by docs from Columbia university. Maybe it's the bloodflow issues covid causes that leads to hearing issues? Who knows. I guess only time will tell. I...

I'm telling you to use reports from people that suffer from tinnitus as your source. In this particular instance, those people just so happen to be using FB as the platform that enables them to communicate with one another. Not sure what that has to do with fb/yt/Twitter censorship, seeing as...

Join the tinnitus groups on facebook. They're flooded with people claiming covid made their tinnitus worse. And just for the record, I've never claimed it's a sure thing that covid causes hearing loss/tinnitus. Im just saying that the studies and anecdotal reports I've seen are concerning. If...

The person that passed away from it was my Aunts mother, and she was in otherwise excellent health. So yeah, I do know that she didnt have any other medical conditions.

I agree, the article kinda sucks but the sources they used seemed pretty legit. Did you happen to take a look at the study they cited from the American Journal or Otolaryngology? I've read through it and it seems pretty compelling. I'm also not the most scientifically inclined person in the...