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May I ask what clinic you went to?

Your tinnitus might get permanently worse if you are accidentally exposed to police sirens, fire alarms, car alarms, popping balloons, kids playing with fireworks et cetera. Using earplugs too much is not where the danger lies.

Reading her story, I doubt it was natural healing. I believe the treatment worked somewhat. Fun fact: The doctor who carried out the treatment is a loose cannon. I researched him: a former beauty surgeon who turned to stem cells for money. He got a client killed due to unprofessionalism. I'm...

Foam earplugs and custom-made silicon ones have similiar effectiveness against low-frequency sounds. But against higher frequencies - fire alarms, ambulance sirens et cetera - foam is much better. Not sure what plastic earplugs is, but if they don't enter the inner-ear canal, I advice you to...

Properly inserted foam earplugs are the best hearing protection on planet Earth. You won't find anything on the market that protects more. What you could do is to use double protection, i.e. both foam earplugs and earmuffs. That will provide another 4-5 dB noise reduction.

Tinnitus is taking its toll on me as well. I am currently in the process of saving up money for a stem cell treatment, so I'm highly interested in seeing if any relevant clinic appears in US. (Cheaper and easier travel compared to Bangkok, and perhaps cheaper treatment as well.) It would be big...

I glanced over Innate Healthcare's web page, and I must say I like the fact that they stick to UC-MSCs (not yet another ex beauty surgeon who does adipose stem cell treatment as a get-rich-quick scheme). Pricing also looks appealing. @attheedgeofscience benefitted from a treatment of a measly...

A couple of questions from someone who doesn't understand the scientific aspects particularly well... @SmallRonnie has been in touch with several stem cell clinics in US that offer umbilical cord MSCs. Are you saying these cell products, in comparison to what are offered at StemCells21, are of...

I suffer from relatively nasty tinnitus. I work out quite a lot (the gym and running). No negative effects of whatsoever. Should be the same for you, because despite different symptoms, it's all nerve damage in the end. I like to believe that nerve injure can heal a little over time if you live...

I agree that was a response that sounds credible. May I ask what clinic it was? (If there are clinics in the West that use USC and appears honest, then they are perhaps worth to consider instead of StemCells21. The travel will be cheaper and perhaps the treatment as well.)

You did much, much better than you realize right now. You should congratulate yourself for not being pulled in by the evil disguised as helpers called ENTs. The tympanometry might have caused you a setback. The next test, the acoustic reflex test, would have turned your life in to a...

No, that's a misunderstanding. I have not done any regenerative therapy to date. I am presently in the phase of saving up the money for it.

JohnAdams was clearly bullish on the treatment after having completed it, but the results from Tinnitus Talk members who tried it is so far inconclusive. I will now make an effort not to lurk this thread until the beginning of September, when we should have the early results from @scotty03874's...

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/solsaem-clinic-dr-minbo-shim-experience.33543/page-59

This being Dr. Shim and TS I presume. Cool pic. Regenerative therapies, in practical terms Dr. Shim and/or StemCells21, are the only kind of treatments that have a record of actually bringing results. Dr. Shim's injections, judging from @JohnAdams's experience, are heavy artillery. It would be...

Subjective hearing tests won't provide reliable measurement, so hopefully they used technical devices. The attenuation some people seem to get from foam earplugs is just crazy high, especially for the higher frequencies.

One may expect that, in the real world, 80- 90% of trained and motivated users should be able to achieve an attenuation of about 15 dB for broad band noise and about 20 dB for high-frequency noise. These are thus realistic values to base a hearing conservation program on. [...] The main purpose...

Yeah, I recall a similar exchange in relation to a thread about shooting and hearing protection. Page 14 in the Navy's study provides an image with attenuation in relation to insertation depth. If you are to obtain 22 dB, then you would have to insert the earplug so deep I'm not sure I...

When I've read up on the topic online, the sources have told me that foam earplugs have better sound proofing qualities: During the development of an intelligent hearing protection and communication system the attenuation of two different earplugs were measured. Both earplugs were measured...

Custom-made earplugs are only beneficial if you want an even attenuation across different frequencies. For maximum protection, ordinary foam earplugs are better. They have a more reliable fit and a higher attenuation. You won't get 30 dB of protection in real life with any kind of hearing...

MRI scans are loud, so they can cause or worsen tinnitus. Make sure your foam earplugs are well inserted and make sure the earmuffs is a model that is allowed. Metal parts is a no-no, so you may have to buy special ones. If so, I would advise to postpone the scan until you have bought an allowed...

Cool that you are getting a regenerative medicine procedure done (y) Any updates on how things work out will be highly appreciated.

Tinnitus spikes can take months to settle. When they do, habituation once again becomes possible. I've been through that cycle a few times. A few weeks is a relative short time frame in my opinion. Bad luck can always spoil it, though. I would make the use of earplugs a daily routine while...

Not wearing hearing protection can significantly worsen your hyperacusis in case you are accidentally exposed to a harmfully loud noise. (Fire alarm, a kid popping a balloon, ambulance sirens and so on.) That's one aspect you may want to consider. Save from that, constant protection will most...

I may have been at it longer than you, but my life situation makes tinnitus easier to endure. No kids, only work part time, and life-long meditator. Unless my tinnitus gets a lot worse due to some accident, I get to recover. Your problem seems to be that you don't get to recover at all. This...

I don't believe the incidents you describe were enough to cause permanent damage. My own experience is that the worsenings from minor, temporary injuries can be aggravated by stress, depression etc. If you keep protecting your ears and wait, getting back to where you were 4 months ago doesn't...

It sounds like the clinic in Ukraine is the real deal, then. Good to know. Tinnitus Talk sure can be an interesting source of information, all thank to its great members and, not to forget, creators.

You have obviously researched crypto currencies extensively, and investing in them have worked out like a charm. Good for you (y) That said, if you are still all in on crypto, then some degree of diversification might be worth to consider. Crypto is treated as a high risk asset, regardless of...

Hi, Could you tell us a bit more about the post concussion symptom and how it improved? How long did it take after the treatment until you started to notice an effect? I'm highly interested in undergoing stem cell treatment myself, so your input is greatly appreciated :)

My experience is that a quiet lifestyle isn't always enough. Sooner or later, there are unfortunate incidents: car alarms, fire alarms, burglar alarms, fireworks, popping balloons or something else. Using foam earplugs more or less always is the only protection that really works. (Pretty...

Noise-canceling headphones works poorly against high-pitched noise. Foam earplugs, if correctly inserted (google for instructions), is the best hearing protection on planet Earth. Use them when you are exposed to those train brakes or other kind of loud noises. You want to protect your...

You have gotten back on your feet before and can probably make it once again. It might not feel that way right now, but it's the likely outcome. I have been in the tinnitus setback pit a few times over, so I'm speaking from experience. Things are about to become less painful. One advice...

Congratulations on the improvements you did experience and thanks for the update @Tau. It seems we can conclude that stem cell secretome treatment at Anove in Germany is not a very good option for tinnitus sufferers.

I'm in for an unpleasant night myself, as my tinnitus is roaring. (Maybe because I was exposed to a burglar alarm earlier today, but as I wore double hearing protection, chances are my tinnitus will go back to baseline.) I'll be doing the meditation exercise I recommended you until I start to...

This meditation method is tailor made for dealing with muscle tensions, which makes it ideal to improve sleeping patterns: Meditation Practice to Deal with Tinnitus Suffering

You shouldn't opt for a stem cell treatment unless you're prepared to take a chance. But ATEOS has never said that his tinnitus was caused by an autoimmune disease. Indeed, he is not sure what caused the onset. He has speculated it might have been a hit to the ear.

I've been meditating for nearly three decades, and I´ve suffered from tinnitus for eight years. My experience is that meditating with tinnitus is perfectly possible, but requires more effort and handpicked techniques. Sitting down with your legs crossed and focus on your breathing? Very...

If you protect your ears form here on out, there's a real chance your tinnitus will go down a bit. Half a year might be a reasonable time frame. My own tinnitus has worsened on a couple of occasions as well. Nowadays, I never leave home without (properly inserted) foam earplugs. If I lived in a...

My two cents: ATEOS wasn't a shill. The treatments provided at Stem Cells 21 has a real chance to improve tinnitus, but there are no guarantees, so you will just have to decide if you want to take your chances or not.

A Scandinavian firm, Bellman & Symfon. The problem I've experienced might be an outlier.

Uvex is a brand of foam earplugs that stays in according to my experience. Moldex is also good. The custom made earplugs I've bought are creating a vacuum in the inner ear, repeatedly causing a popping sound. I've stopped using them entirely since I'm worried this will have a negative impact on...

Interesting. Do you have a link available?

Dude, if you decide to go, you should at least use some proper hearing protection. Foam earplugs, correctly inserted, is the best there is. (Google for usage instructions.) Combining with a pair of bulky earmuffs is recommended. You won't know until afterwards if going was okay or not. That's...

I attach the study as a PDF. Go to page 11.

Find yourself a foam earplugs brand that is soft on the ear, and make a habit of carrying them during the relevant parts of the day. I recommend Moldex spark plugs for this purpose.

Time for double protection, I think. I recommend Moldex foam earplugs as they are comfortable to wear for long periods of time. You're never going to get ideal protection with only earmuffs, no matter how bulky. In best case scenario, you might be able to make the dog bark less. But you can't...

The SNR for a particular hearing protection tends to be higher than its NRR. For a safety approach first, you should look at the NRR instead. The best hearing protections on the market has 33 NRR for foam earplugs and 31 NRR for earmuffs. A study conducted by the US Navy showed that well...

The US Navy conducted a study with 3M Classic, NRR 28 dB. Well inserted, they provided 16 dB in protection. Many foam earplugs on the market has 33 dB in NRR, so I figure somewhere in the range 15-20 dB would be realistic to expect.

Hi Armond, There is no law of tinnitus saying that the symptoms must get worse over time. On the contrary, many tinnitus sufferers report the opposite; their symptoms get milder after a few months. Your tinnitus started out in your left ear, and hearing tests confirms you have a hearing loss...

Us with tinnitus easily get stuck in a paradox: We want to keep doing normal stuff. But when we do, we won't enjoy ourselves because we'll be worried about about our tinnitus getting worse. The pub/bowling with earplugs doesn't sound terribly risky to me. (Make sure to insert the earplugs...

Hi Kinnawack, I'm sorry to hear about your situation. I developed tinnitus when I was 35, which is fairly late in life when much lies behind you. Getting tinnitus as a 16-year-old must be genuinely terrible. Speaking from 7 years of tinnitus experience, I have both good and bad news for you...

Tinnitus and paranoia are two conditions that were made for each other. I think it's fascinating how life can seem completely casual on the surface, but in reality, you spend 24/7 in the quirkiest corner of your mind. "Normal" is gone and it ain't coming back anytime soon.

MRI is capable of causing and worsening pre-existing tinnitus. You can do a search here on Tinnitus Talk for examples. I don't know your reason for undertaking the scan, but it better be good because the risks of your tinnitus hell getting worse is real.

Some earplugs are softer on the ear than others. I recommend Moldex. Constantly using earplugs can cause hyperacusis, which is why some (most?) medical professionals caution against overuse. But they only affect your tinnitus in the sense that they help to protect against further damage. (They...

My two cents: It's not rare for tinnitus sufferers to have spikes that subside partly or completely. By using earmuffs, you vastly improved your chances. Keep protecting your ears and give it some time. I suspect you will find yourself feeling okay again.

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Hi Saswata, I don't think you should beat yourself up. If you carry double hearing protection, you should have been well able to use a blender a few times. I suspect your hyperacusis might have worsened regardless. I suffer from both tinnitus and hyperacusis, both pretty bad. I get by thanks...

Don't let the ENT do an acoustic reflex test. It's a test where a device administrates beeps into your ear. The ENT will tell you it's safe, but it's not. Several Tinnitus Talk members have had their tinnitus permanently worsened by it. Refuse to participate in the test no matter what.

Hi Scotty, In your situation, I would consider to consult a second ear surgeon about the side effects from the surgery you had last year. Why has the eardrum gotten loose and why did it cause tinnitus? Something sure sounds to be anatomically off if you can temporary restore your hearing with...

I'm happy to successfully have issued a warning before a potential case of tinnitus-getting-worse-because-an-acoustic-reflex-test occurs. It's much better than reading about yet another poor soul who walked into the disaster after the fact. I don't disagree with any of this, but in your case...