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@LJMD I'm sure this goes for others too but I for one am thankful for you going into detail about your treatment. This thread has a few posts where people have reported a positive effect on their T after having stem cell treatment and others who have reported no improvement. Some of those who...

@LJMD do you know where exactly the local injections were administered to - was it a muscle, vein or artery? You say that you think these local injections gave you the most improvement within 24 hours. Did you have the local injections and intranasal stem cells on the same day? I ask because a...

Totally agree. @friend said he/she had stem cell treatment in the US and that was about all was mentioned about the treatment. I don't think you can compare that to what SC21 offer and I also doubt he/she had the local peptide injection or laser/oxygen supportive treatments and these all play a...

Weird how this study came out a few days after I cold turkey quit the starter dose (50mg) of sertraline because it was amplifying my tinnitus by insane levels. I've been off it for a couple of weeks now and my tinnitus seems to be back to baseline however my it screwed so much with my sleeping...

It's the clinic where ATEOS had his treatment at in Thailand (Stem Cells 21). Although my tinnitus is intrusive and I am desperate for reprieve. I contemplated treatment in Thailand but in the end decided against it and other clinics in less developed countries that mostly operate with impunity...

@Fabrikat yes I'm well aware that the improvement wasn't directly attributed to the treatment but in retrospect having had intrusive tinnitus which has not improved on its own in years, it would be naive to dismiss the link imo. In other news, the clinic in Thailand now offer intranasal stem...

Those who still have or take Trobalt and are experiencing Trobalt induced visual floaters, I found that soaking 20 or so Saffron strands in hot milk/tea for 5 minutes and then drinking and consuming all the Saffron got rid of floaters.

@DebInAustralia wow that's great! ATEOS reported his T improved over time after stem cell therapy so don't rule out further improvement just yet! How would you rate your T annoyance out of 10 before the therapy and now? Out of curiosity what was the cost of treatment?

@bill 112 did you eventually fly out to Thailand for treatment or were you stringing us all along :)

@VRZ78 is there a source? @LadyDi I don't think that would have made a blot of difference. Injecting the cells directly into the eye probably had more to do with the blinding.

Shim doesn't really divulge on his treatment protocol which makes this a big nono for me. I think he uses embryonic stem cells from fetuses. I read an article a few weeks ago where a guy who sought stem cell treatment was injected with these cells in his spine at a foreign clinic and some time...

Given that most IV stem cells get stuck in your lungs (Google pulmonary first pass), I would imagine it's rare for tumours to form from them

They are both end up as the same thing. Prednisolone is easier on the liver and more readily absorbed according to doctor Google whereas our livers need to convert Prednisone to Prednisolone.

I am not too clued up on the whole process but from what I understand, there are 2 parts to the treatment. The first part is the injection through the eardrum for the growth factor and the second is the stem cells which are injected intravenously through a vein in your arm for example. The hope...

@RaZaH I have the same problem. After cessation, T returns back to full strength. I've started taking it again once in the morning with milk and it's important as with any treatment protocol, this needs to be taken like a medication on a daily basis and for a 4-8 week period at least...

I agree with most of your points. I read an article a while ago which pictured Mimbo in the US with American scientists collaborating on hearing regeneration research so I don't think guy is a complete nobody but I need more convincing that his treatment is effective for tinnitus.

One problem I envisage is strict enrolment criteria and will likely require participants to have profound hearing loss for enrollment for phase 1 at least. I hope the companies widen the scope of their target market not just to cover 'profound' hearing loss but also other ear/balance related...

I wonder what the threshold is below NRM (no hearing)? The values 85M what do they exactly interpret to?

Haha well spotted

Whenever I have done hearing tests online, after 13-14k, it becomes inaudible for me. Can humans even hear up to 30k? @bill 112 hope everything goes as expected and that you get lasting improvement. A few of us are keep on getting stem cell treatment soon so please keep us updated.

Sometimes I wish I were a mouse or in this case a gerbil

Yup that's a good way to find a good brand, see what a reputable store stocks. I saw this brand on the Costco US site but unfortunately nothing similar here in the UK...

I would say your post is moreso

I assume the downside of stem cells & growth factors intravenously would be the ears would be less of a target and the stem cells would spread throughout the body and repair other areas however on the flipside high frequency hearing may be preserved. The stem cells would still likely repair...

Probably because at birth, there are growth factors present but these are no longer present a few days after birth. This is what some of the companies who are doing hair cell regeneration are working on. There are some videos and data on this on the megathread on hair cell regeneration. See...

The window of opportunity seems quite short with this treatment, hope they can tweak it and get it to work with hearing loss/regeneration: There are also questions about the "window of opportunity". While the therapy worked in mice treated at birth, it failed when given just 10 days later.

Damn so there's no 2 ways about it then? IIRC attheedgeofscience only had high level of IV stem cells only and that helped reduce his T by 50%. I wonder if Dr Mimbo would do IV only. I would rather get it done in Japan than Thailand/China. My hearing is good but my patience is starting to wear...

Damn, doesn't sound good. Hope you recover with the hearing loss always be careful of where you buy saffron online. I have warned people in this thread before. @RaZaH didn't you have the same brand saffron? Any ill effects? Sorry I can't quite recall the article. It may just have been a...

My T is at such a severe level (constant high pitch 10/10 screech literally 24/7) and has been for the past year or so that I am seriously considering this treatment. I have a couple of reservations however. One being what is actually being injected in the subjects and the other is the high...

Link to video, skip to 9:18 https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t42.9040-29/10000000_1910485172503829_1738496512519831552_n.mp4?efg=eyJybHIiOjE1MDAsInJsYSI6NDA5NiwidmVuY29kZV90YWciOiJzZCJ9&rl=1500&vabr=548&oh=329c0c63d74f424843e2c0ace0d8087e&oe=5898E198

Sorry to hear :( I found that most times when leaving saffron on top of a half full cup of boiled milk and then mixing it a while later, the milk would still retain most of its white colour. One day I poured the warm milk in a bottle and sprinkled some saffron inside. After 15 minutes and...

I'm no expert Agreed. Those of us who have had tinnitus for years will probably need to take it for longer. I have definitely noticed improvement and I am only on day 6. Today however has been a bit of a bad day but I will continue to take it purely for the mood enhancing element. I usually...

Search youtube for fake saffron to distinguish between real and fake saffron. I bought a small amount from a local store for £10. Costco in the US sells a branded tub of the stuff for $80 and it has rave reviews but I can't seem to find it over here in the UK...

@lambos @Kelvin Where did you guys order your saffron and are you guys sure it was legit? Most of the cheap stuff you'll find online on the likes of fleabay and amazon is fake saffron. A majority of it is corn silk and coconut fibres that are dyed to resemble saffron.

I would personally avoid the likes of ebay/amazon. It's not worth skimping on for a small amount of saffron. Go for a quality brand

I started saffron on Saturday with warm milk. I put a lot more than OPs picture in my very first attempt however for the most of Saturday my tinnitus was noticeably quieter. Before bed on Saturday, I took more saffron in warm milk but this time with added hot chocolate too. I woke up that night...

@RaZaH it's worth a go trying with warm milk as the OP suggested. I have been reading studies about saffron and it is as effective as anti-depressants for treating depression without the side effects. There is also research on it as a treatment for macular degeneration. I will be trying saffron...

Interesting theory. Here is something I plucked out of random articles but there is definitely some sort of relevance even although the second article talks about mainly retinal neurodegeneration. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19086305...

Thanks for sharing your experience baskar. I'm a bit concerned the quality of saffron online might skew the experiences of people on here who will be trying it. This review I found on Amazon sprang to my attention: Make sure you buy for a reputable supplier without paying the price of gold!

Sorry for the late responses guys. My tinnitus has been unmanageable lately and has spiked considerably :(. When I eventually ordered Ambroxol, it was from Germany and came in a box of 100 or so, I think 60mg. I used to regularly take 240mg which was 4 tablets at a time and as you can imagine, I...

Researchers have identified the cause of chronic, and currently untreatable, pain in those with amputations and severe nerve damage, as well as a potential treatment which relies on engineering instead of drugs. Researchers have discovered that a 'reorganisation' of the wiring of the brain is...

This differs as Thanos' previous research has been on onset and prevention on T becoming chronic although this seems to be more about finding out what changes happen when T becomes chronic and reversing that. PITTSBURGH—Nearly 50 million Americans suffer from tinnitus, an audiological and...

I have attached the research paper, more a powerpoint presentation but interesting nontheless

Nope not that I recall

I took it in rather large doses of 240mg at once, even 60mg tends to make me really thirsty. Let me know how you get on @linearb

So I posted an update in the user experiences thread and taking 600mg Neurontin alongside trobalt does seem to have a positive effect. @preslys @papu I know you guys have taken Neurontin with Trobalt, a bit of a person question but can I ask what your body weight is?

Progress Report Progress Report Date: Mar 31, 2016 Current Retigabine Dosage: 300 + 300 + 300 Current Side Effects: Side effects shortly after onset of dosing but not felt with every dose: Dizziness/fatigue/feeling tired Mental impairment i.e. incoherent when speaking Side effects...

I forgot to mention this in my progress report and cannot edit it but yes I have noticed my left eye twitching every now and again. I am on 300mg TID. Let me tell you that Trobalt has quite dangerous side effects. Please educate yourself before even considering taking it

Progress Report Progress Report Date: Mar 23, 2016 Current Retigabine Dosage: 300mg TID Current Side Effects: I feel woozy and dumb at times (don't make sense when talking). Some dose don't give me any side effect whereas others I feel the aforementioned effect and it doesn't matter if I...

New User Information Gender: Male Age: 31 How Long Have You Suffered From Tinnitus? (Date of Onset): Nov 21, 2014 How Did You Get Tinnitus?: Unknown Explain How You Got Tinnitus: Is Your Tinnitus in Which of the Following?: Left Ear, Head What Kind of Tinnitus Do You Experience...

I couldn't find anything in the UK with the active ingredient Ambroxol. Can you link which product(s) you found and the one at £2 GBP?

Sorry I didn't reply sooner, use the @ sign before someones forum name and they get an alert everytime their name is mentioned. I think I had this test about 5 or 6 times. I started noticing visual floaters some months after my T started and my regular optician referred me to the eye hospital...

Thanks for attaching the full text @attheedgeofscience I was in 2 minds whether to post this under research news for the exact same reason, the research did not mention tinnitus but I felt at the time of posting that repair of the CNS would possibly have an unintended but positive effect on...

I have had this test at the opticians and eye hospital a few times over the last year and the machine is not loud at all and did not effect my T in any way I can remember. It seems to be a very odd interaction that it spiked your T. I know you have to rest your chin still and sometimes lean...

LOS ANGELES, Feb. 19 (UPI) -- Researchers identified the genetic mechanism that promotes repair of the peripheral nervous system, as well as a drug that promotes nerve regeneration in the central nervous system, according to a newly published study. Scientists at the University of California...

I've recently had an increase in my T and wanted to give Trobalt a try. If anyone can help me get Trobalt or point me in the right direction, I would appreciate if you could drop me a PM (use this link to PM). Thanks!

Hey Stotoph can I PM you? Says your privacy settings don't allow me to start a convo

It covers what we already know. Here it is for anyone outside the UK

Congratulations @zenxpowert on getting cured from this horrible condition. It's always nice to come across success stories. I have read a few posts from people getting cured but none seem to share the name of the *magic* medication they were on, care to share the name of the presciption...

Great to hear @liamedwards1 :D Out of curiosity, what was the name of the antibiotic your GP prescribed?