Electrical Stimulation on Acupuncture Points

[M.K.]

https://www.healthcmi.com/Acupunctu...1728-acupuncture-found-effective-for-tinnitus

"A research team in Sichuan, China, achieved significant positive patient outcomes by employing the use of electrical stimulation to acupuncture points. Compared with conventional manual acupuncture therapy, the addition of electroacupuncture to the treatment protocol increased clinical effectiveness for the treatment of tinnitus by 25.1%. Conventional manual acupuncture achieved a 64.5% total effective rate; however, electroacupuncture achieved an 89.6% total effective rate."​

My acupuncturist showed me this article today. Any thoughts?

 

[Daniel Lion]

https://www.healthcmi.com/Acupunctu...1728-acupuncture-found-effective-for-tinnitus

"A research team in Sichuan, China, achieved significant positive patient outcomes by employing the use of electrical stimulation to acupuncture points. Compared with conventional manual acupuncture therapy, the addition of electroacupuncture to the treatment protocol increased clinical effectiveness for the treatment of tinnitus by 25.1%. Conventional manual acupuncture achieved a 64.5% total effective rate; however, electroacupuncture achieved an 89.6% total effective rate."​

My acupuncturist showed me this article today. Any thoughts?

Yes, I think the 64.5 percent for efficacy rate is way too generous, from personal experience and threads on this forum. 10 percent would be tops. Mixed with electricity sounds awesome, but it's not neuromodulation, the numbers seem way too high. I love acupuncture, but not for tinnitus.

 

[incelitus]

Chinese "research" about traditional chinese medicine is worth close to nothing.

 

[jmasterj]

I tried 4 sessions of electroacupuncture and the only thing it relieved was my wallet.

 

[antonio77]

Years ago I tried acupuncture and my tinnitus increased considerably and I lost hearing until I removed the needles, then everything returned to the baseline.

 

[Lane]

Chinese "research" about traditional chinese medicine is worth close to nothing.

THIS POST describes how a man from London got rid of his tinnitus after 14 years by using Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM).

 

[Lane]

I tried 4 sessions of electroacupuncture and the only thing it relieved was my wallet.

I've gotten all kinds of reactions after doing acupuncture: 1) Can increase tinnitus; 2) Can decrease it; 3) can remain the same. My early visits to the acupuncturist shortly after my started produced virtually no improvements. After a few months, I started to occasionally notice modest benefits. Just recently, I had a visit where I got the biggest improvement yet, but it only lasted 3 days.

My acupuncturist is now teaching me how to do self-acupuncture so I can do it more consistently. I'm hoping longer term perserverence will pay off. Even if it doesn't improve my tinnitus, I've recently had some notable improvements in my Eustacian Tube function from doing the acupuncture.

I think the 64.5 percent for efficacy rate is way too generous. ... 10 percent would be tops.

64.5% sounds way too high to me as well. My best guess (from reading this forum and elsewhere), is that it's around 30%+. But that figure includes a diminution of tinnitus, not just a total cessation.

 

[Quiet please]

1. I've just TODAY visited a US licensed acupuncturist who is from China. He is wonderful; so kind, caring (he listened!) & is highly experienced. He did say if my T is primary from ETD, he might be able to help.
2. But several days ago I visited a new ENT (who also listened!) who coincidentally said he believed my T may be caused by ETD & prescribed 3 weeks of the balloon Otovent therapy. I do it 2x day. I'm to return in 2 weeks for a new hearing test & possible discussion of a tube placement.
3. Since I'm doing these 2 brand new therapies together, I'm not sure if one or the other will work. Or none. To be determined.
4. Note: After the acupuncture therapy, where I feel asleep for an hour, I was so calm & mellow, I really didn't notice my T for about 6 hrs. Its slowly coming back as I write this, but much less intense & hardly loud.

 

[Lane]

Since I'm doing these 2 brand new therapies together, I'm not sure if one or the other will work. Or none. To be determined.

Hi @Quiet please -- I'd love to hear how this turned out for you.

 

[ThomasC]

Is it safe ? I think I have somatosensory pulsatile tinnitus I, can reduce the volume of my tinnitus by clenching my jaw and sometimes the tinnitus become pulsatile.

 

[InfiniteLoop]

I tried several months of traditional acupuncture and electroacupuncture with zero results. It was as relaxing as it was useless. Stay away from this dubious method. The paper mentioned at the start of the thread is likely a self-serving publication closer to technical marketing than to an useful treatment. Remember that in Chinese medicine T is related to the health of the liver.

 

[Lane]

Remember that in Chinese medicine T is related to the health of the liver.

@InfiniteLoop -- In case you're interested, THIS POST describes how a man from London got rid of his tinnitus after 14 years by using Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM).

 

[InfiniteLoop]

@Lane

It sounds like an anecdotical story with little relevance to me. It contains magical elements. I do not have an internal imbalance. I have hearing loss and we all know how irreversible it is. We keep looking in the wrong places with all this alternative medicine. Magic is not going to save us.

 

[Hottopic29]

Hmm, I see these devices available for purchase. Has anyone tried them?