How Don't Rappers and Rockstars Get Tinnitus?

[uae96]

I follow these rappers on Instagram, and all their stories are of them either in a club or in a show every single day!

And I always try to find if they're wearing anything in their ears but no, nothing!

How? Just what do they eat, what do they do?

I want to know, I understand they may have tinnitus but at some point they should also develop hyperacusis.

That's not fair

 

[sky_high]

Some of them do get it, but we just don't know it. There are some that do talk about it, for example Anthony Kiedis from Red Hot Chili Peppers (wrote about it in his book I think), Will.i.am, Chris Martin from Coldplay, Ozzy, etc. The list is pretty extensive actually. Here's two videos:

 

[uae96]

Some of them do get it, but we just don't know it. There are some that do talk about it, for example Anthony Kiedis from Red Hot Chili Peppers (wrote about it in his book I think), Will.i.am, Chris Martin from Coldplay, Ozzy, etc. The list is pretty extensive actually.

How don't they develop hyperacusis! I mean I had mild hyperacusis but even with not so loud exposures I developed severe hyperacusis and I am a young healthy male.

 

[another sean]

Because the loud speakers are pointed at the audience, not themselves. That's why generally we get tinnitus and they don't.

 

[Pero1234]

Because the loud speakers are pointed at the audience, not themselves. That's why generally we get tinnitus and they don't.

That's so mean of them! Pure evil! :-D

 

[PatrickG]

I heard it has a lot to do with insurance issues. If they say they have tinnitus they maybe won't be allowed to tour.

 

[coffee_girl]

Tinnitus isn't a competition you know

 

[Ed209]

I follow these rappers on Instagram, and all their stories are of them either in a club or in a show every single day!

And I always try to find if they're wearing anything in their ears but no, nothing!

How? Just what do they eat, what do they do?

I want to know, I understand they may have tinnitus but at some point they should also develop hyperacusis.

That's not fair

They do! Some have had it real bad as well. Bad cases that have ended tours and put careers on hold include: Phil Collins, Brian Johnson, Pete Townsend, Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Paul Gray, etc. This is off the top of my head, there are loads more.

Tragically, Craig Gill's career permanently came to an end after he hanged himself.

The list of people who haven't spoken publicly, in detail, is going to be much higher. Other celebs and musicians who have it is such an extensive list that you might as well google it. There are loads.

Paul Gilbert talks quite openly in this video about how badly damaged his ears are. Take a listen from around the 12:20 mark. Keep listening because at 15:20 they keep talking about others having problems:





Paul Gray talks very candidly about how it devastated his life in many articles. I'll post one below that's well worth reading (Google his name and read some of the others as well):


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www..../cardiff-punk-rocker-didnt-leave-14195509.amp


Here's an excerpt of Jeff Beck talking about his tinnitus. At the time he had to cancel some work with Guns N Roses because it was too unbearable:

During an interview with Rolling Stone this is what Jeff said, "yes, it's in my left ear. It's excruciating… I mean, it's the worst thing 'cause it's not…it never…it does go away – it's not true to say that it doesn't but, uhh…it doesn't…the doctors say it won't… it isn't actually going away – you've just gotta suppress…they try to come to terms with what it actually…why some people fear it – that's the psychology behind it. They know it's there but why is it such a horrible sound? Well, you can say why a guy is scratching at a window with his nails such a horrible sound – I couldn't put up with that! This is worse!"

In 1993, Jeff had to cancel a guest appearance with the Guns 'N' Roses because his tinnitus had gotten so bad.​

This site lists some celebs who have spoken about it:

https://www.stoptheringing.org/fame-wont-stop-the-ringing-20-celebrities-with-tinnitus/

I'm a musician and I know loads of people with this condition in the music world. I personally spoke with both CJ and Ginger from The Wildhearts recently and they both admitted to me that they had been suffering from tinnitus for decades. As far as I know, this has never been mentioned in any interviews and is not widely known. However, behind the scenes it's had an impact on their lives, make no mistake.

 

[uae96]

People like that deserve tinnitus and hyperacusis.

 

[Ed209]

Just because people are famous doesn't make them genetically different. Whatever affects the general public can affect them also. They are certainly not immune; in fact, they are more at risk.

People like that deserve tinnitus and hyperacusis.

You are basically saying that many of us on here deserve this condition. I disagree. Musicians aren't evil.

 

[uae96]

You are basically saying that many of us on here deserve this condition. I disagree. Musicians aren't evil.

No I'm not saying musicians, I'm saying that rapper in particular.

 

[Manny]

They do! Some have had it real bad as well. Bad cases that have ended tours and put careers on hold include: Phil Collins, Brian Johnson, Pete Townsend, Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Paul Gray, etc. This is off the top of my head, there are loads more.

Tragically, Craig Gill's career permanently came to an end after he hanged himself.

The list of people who haven't spoken publicly, in detail, is going to be much higher. Other celebs and musicians who have it is such an extensive list that you might as well google it. There are loads.

Paul Gilbert talks quite openly in this video about how badly damaged his ears are. Take a listen from around the 12:20 mark. Keep listening because at 15:20 they keep talking about others having problems:





Paul Gray talks very candidly about how it devastated his life in many articles. I'll post one below that's well worth reading (Google his name and read some of the others as well):


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www..../cardiff-punk-rocker-didnt-leave-14195509.amp


Here's an excerpt of Jeff Beck talking about his tinnitus. At the time he had to cancel some work with Guns N Roses because it was too unbearable:

During an interview with Rolling Stone this is what Jeff said, "yes, it's in my left ear. It's excruciating… I mean, it's the worst thing 'cause it's not…it never…it does go away – it's not true to say that it doesn't but, uhh…it doesn't…the doctors say it won't… it isn't actually going away – you've just gotta suppress…they try to come to terms with what it actually…why some people fear it – that's the psychology behind it. They know it's there but why is it such a horrible sound? Well, you can say why a guy is scratching at a window with his nails such a horrible sound – I couldn't put up with that! This is worse!"

In 1993, Jeff had to cancel a guest appearance with the Guns 'N' Roses because his tinnitus had gotten so bad.​

This site lists some celebs who have spoken about it:

https://www.stoptheringing.org/fame-wont-stop-the-ringing-20-celebrities-with-tinnitus/

I'm a musician and I know loads of people with this condition in the music world. I personally spoke with both CJ and Ginger from The Wildhearts recently and they both admitted to me that they had been suffering from tinnitus for decades. As far as I know, this has never been mentioned in any interviews and is not widely known. However, behind the scenes it's had an impact on their lives, make no mistake.

I find this post oddly encouraging, thanks Ed.

 

[JohnAdams]

I find this post oddly encouraging, thanks Ed.

Damn! Paul Gilbert??????

I wonder if he is on this forum. If so he's probably @threefirefour

 

[Ed209]

Damn! Paul Gilbert?????

If you listen from around 13:20 he describes his hearing as sounding small and distorted. He also describes the ringing he hears which must be pretty intrusive because of his extensive hearing loss.

 

[JohnAdams]

If you listen from around 13:20 he describes his hearing as sounding small and distorted. He also describes the ringing he hears which must be pretty intrusive because of his extensive hearing loss.

Damn.... that's a cruel punishment. Why aren't these celebrities all pushing for the FDA to hurry up the treatments? The electric guitar is indeed the devil.

 

[Ed209]

@JohnAdams, @Manny

Did you read Paul Gray's story (bassist from The Damned) in the link I put up? He says he didn't leave his house for 3 years.

It's interesting to note that he is back playing bass with them having performed on their latest tour.

 

[Jack Straw]

Famous musician Bob Wier (Grateful Dead Guitarist) is permanently deaf in his left ear because of one night where he jammed with Jimi Hendrix and stood right next to his amp. Not sure if he has tinnitus though.

 

[JohnAdams]

@JohnAdams, @Manny

Did you read Paul Gray's story (bassist from The Damned) in the link I put up? He says he didn't leave his house for 3 years.

It's interesting to note that he is back playing bass with them having performed on their latest tour.

That's horrible. How bad is your tinnitus? I was exposed to some loud speakers and some lawnmowers over the last week and my tinnitus spiked so bad for two days that I started having intrusive suicidal thoughts. It went back down today and I feel fine again.

 

[Ed209]

That's horrible. How bad is your tinnitus? I was exposed to some loud speakers and some lawnmowers over the last week and my tinnitus spiked so bad for two days that I started having intrusive suicidal thoughts. It went back down today and I feel fine again.

Mine is very intrusive and multilayered. I hear a piercing dentist drill in the middle of my head; my right ear has a puretone ring; my left ear has a lower drone with occasional morse code like beeps, and underneath it all there is static and hissing. It's basically a cacophony of noise.

 

[JohnAdams]

Mine is very intrusive and multilayered. I hear a piercing dentist drill in the middle of my head; my right ear has a puretone ring; my left ear has a lower drone with occasional morse code like beeps, and underneath it all there is static and hissing. It's basically a cacophony of noise.

Does yours ever go away? Go down?

 

[Ed209]

Does yours ever go away? Go down?

It never goes away but it fluctuates. My baseline is always intrusive but it can go to what some might consider catastrophic levels. The problem with subjective terms is that we can't compare so they're largely meaningless.

 

[Jack Straw]

Mine is very intrusive and multilayered. I hear a piercing dentist drill in the middle of my head; my right ear has a puretone ring; my left ear has a lower drone with occasional morse code like beeps, and underneath it all there is static and hissing. It's basically a cacophony of noise.

Dear god that sounds crazy. Was it noise induced? My tinnitus also seems to change a lot too. Besides my constant high pitched ringing, I recently developed beeping that changes between my ears and sometimes turns into a wind sound. Not sure what that means, but it changes everyday.

 

[Ed209]

Dear god that sounds crazy. Was it noise induced? My tinnitus also seems to change a lot too. Besides my constant high pitched ringing, I recently developed beeping that changes between my ears and sometimes turns into a wind sound. Not sure what that means, but it changes everyday.

It started when I was around 18/19, but it was more of a background hissing noise and subtle ringing. This all changed when I was 33 after I watched a stupidly loud gig in a bar where the environment was all exposed brick (making it highly reflective).

Two days later all hell broke loose in my head and ears.

I would add to this that I was exposed to a lot of dangerous noise (unprotected) for around 15 years and nothing changed. There comes a point where the damage just catches up and you start hearing various noises.

 

[Jack Straw]

It started when I was around 18/19, but it was more of a background hissing noise and subtle ringing. This all changed when I was 33 after I watched a stupidly loud gig in a bar where the environment was all exposed brick (making it highly reflective).

Two days later all hell broke loose in my head and ears.

I'm sorry to hear that @Ed209 . I'm happy that you can still enjoy music and teach it regardless!

 

[Ed209]

I'm sorry to hear that @Ed209 . I'm happy that you can still enjoy music and teach it regardless!

I did two more gigs after that incident (and many rehearsals/jams) with my custom plugs and it didn't get any worse. However, I decided to call it a day because I had a lot of anxiety inside me which was robbing me of my enjoyment. It was one of the hardest decisions I've ever made, but who knows if it's a permanent one.

For now, I have turned my life around, but it was one of the darkest times I've ever been through. My headspace was in total despair and I saw absolutely no future for myself. It was truly awful and I was really suicidal. Time has changed my attitude, though, and it no longer bothers me anywhere near as much. Sounds crazy but it's the truth. I still get times when I slip back and become really depressed about it, but it happens a lot less frequently nowadays. It will always hang over me no matter how I feel, so it could come back and bite me in the ass at any moment. I try not to think negatively because it doesn't help me going forward in any way at all.

As they say in show business: the show must go on, or in my case nowadays, 'life must go on'.

 

[Jack Straw]

I did two more gigs after that incident (and many rehearsals/jams) with my custom plugs and it didn't get any worse. However I decided to call it a day because I had a lot of anxiety inside me which was robbing me of my enjoyment. It was one of the hardest decisions I've ever made, but who knows if it's a permanent one.

For now, I have turned my life around, but it was one of the darkest times I've ever been through. My headspace was in total despair and I saw absolutely no future for myself. It was truly awful. Time has changed my attitude and it no longer bothers me all that much. Sounds crazy but it's the truth. I still get times when I slip back and become really depressed about it, but it happens a lot less nowadays.

I'm currently in one of those places and trying to dig myself out. Currently have a lot of real life stressors on top of my recently worsened tinnitus and that isn't helping very much. I might have to get some help pharmaceutically unfortunately, but I don't have much of a choice. Your story does make me feel better knowing that even with such big life changes we can always get back on top!

 

[Ed209]

I'm currently in one of those places and trying to dig myself out. Currently have a lot of real life stressors on top of my recently worsened tinnitus and that isn't helping very much. I might have to get some help pharmaceutically unfortunately, but I don't have much of a choice. Your story does make me feel better knowing that even with such big life changes we can always get back on top!

I felt exactly the same way and also have way too much to stress about. Stress and tinnitus aren't exactly the best of friends either.

Try not to read too many negative stories as it just compounds your own problems. Don't unnecessarily worry about your future either, as how we think our future will be and what actually happens are two very different things as I've discovered many times in my life.

 

[Red]

People like that deserve tinnitus and hyperacusis.

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I don't know this rapper. I'm trying to decide if you post his picture because we should recognize him or because his appearance suggests what kind of person should get T+H. It's really hard for me to tell.

I don't feel comfortable wishing it upon people I dislike and I definitely don't understand why I would want to wish it on this person. I don't see anything about it that would make me want to feel that way.

 

[sky_high]

I don't know this rapper. I'm trying to decide if you post his picture because we should recognize him or because his appearance suggests what kind of person should get T+H. It's really hard for me to tell.

He's 6ix9ine, a prominent rapper. I understand he is easy to hate, but reading his biography looks like he didn't have an easy life growing up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6ix9ine

 

[JohnAdams]

I did two more gigs after that incident (and many rehearsals/jams) with my custom plugs and it didn't get any worse. However, I decided to call it a day because I had a lot of anxiety inside me which was robbing me of my enjoyment. It was one of the hardest decisions I've ever made, but who knows if it's a permanent one.

For now, I have turned my life around, but it was one of the darkest times I've ever been through. My headspace was in total despair and I saw absolutely no future for myself. It was truly awful and I was really suicidal. Time has changed my attitude, though, and it no longer bothers me anywhere near as much. Sounds crazy but it's the truth. I still get times when I slip back and become really depressed about it, but it happens a lot less frequently nowadays. It will always hang over me no matter how I feel, so it could come back and bite me in the ass at any moment. I try not to think negatively because it doesn't help me going forward in any way at all.

As they say in show business: the show must go on, or in my case nowadays, 'life must go on'.

If we get cured you can join the mpp band.