I Developed Tinnitus After the Pfizer COVID-19 Vaccine

[Erdem]

Hello. I am 29-year-old male living in Turkey. Actually, this matter might be familiar to people who suffer from tinnitus after the COVID-9 vaccination. But I wanted to talk about my trouble too.

As you can see above I got the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine on (28.08.2021). 14 days after the Pfizer jab, I got constant tinnitus. I don't even understand which ear of mine is ringing because there is always some high pitching noise. First few days, I was feeling like my right ear has more ringing, but now I feel the same for my left ear. I think it comes from the brain.

I went to an ENT, had a hearing test and an MRI of the inner ear. Nothing is wrong. Everything is good. I don't have any hearing loss or any problem with my eardrums. There was no inflammation. I asked for steroids from the doctor and he prescribed (Methylprednisolone) but I felt that it might not be a good idea to take it. I did a little research on the internet that Methylprednisolone is not good for tinnitus. Dexamethasone is a more efficient one. I did not contact him after that.

Then I went to the neighbourhood doctor and asked for an eardrop with a steroid (Dexamethasone) and I have been using it for a week. It is of no help, I don't even want to say this but it has made my tinnitus worse.

It might sound a bit weird, because Turkish doctors are completely ignorant about hearing issues. Even though on the doctor's website it said they are a specialist on tinnitus, he just thought it is a psychological problem.

Then I took the second COVID-19 vaccine on 20.09.2021 and I felt muscle pain and a little fever after 12 hours. But these symptoms I sorted out with Paracetamol. But the ear ringing didn't go away.

I really don't know what to do. Last night there was a huge and very loud high pitching sound in my left ear and I can say it was 8/10. But if I leave my TV on, I can sleep without any problem.

Just wanted to share my story. Thanks, everyone.

I will update this thread if there is any improvement in my tinnitus.

 

[Krod]

My ears started ringing after my 2nd COVID-19 Vaccine. Went to my GP and he gave me ear drops and steroids. The ringing started up again. I explained to Doctor it started 2 days after my COVID-19 vaccine. I was sent to a ENT. He sent me to a audiologist. I wear a hearing aide on my right ear. I was told I have nerve damage. I had the vaccine on my right arm. My right ear has damage. I have ringing in my ear sometimes louder than hearing aide. It's November now. I'm going back to audiologist. It's 3rd time since August. He will adjust the hearing aid once again.

This whole thing is horrible. Wish I never got the vaccination.

 

[Clerkp]

Sorry to hear about this. I find it somewhat shocking that the vaccine can do this. I personally have had 3 vaccine doses this year. My tinnitus has worsened but I am unable to tie it back to the vaccines although it's certainly possible. Hopefully you can find some relief soon.

This discussion is disturbing. I first noticed my tinnitus being worse about 2 months ago. Potential triggers could be anything from normal hearing loss from aging, a trial of Propecia (quickly abandoned), stress or I suppose the vaccines.

If the vaccines do cause or worsen tinnitus then that's a real problem because it's clear we are going to need boosters for the rest of our lives.

FWIW, I just got my 3rd full dose of Moderna and I haven't noticed anything getting worse but I will say my baseline has increased from a 2 to a 3 to a 3 to 4 this year. I have no reason to believe the vaccines are responsible but it's a possibility. I really hope they can get to the bottom of this. My tinnitus is currently right at the threshold where I can "sort of" tolerate it. Any worse and I think I'd go over the edge.

Also, not getting the vaccine isn't really a good option either to be honest. COVID-19 is known to cause all sorts of health problems including tinnitus and hearing loss. So I still think when faced with the choice, the vaccine is the way to go. That said, I'm not thrilled about annual boosters unless/until they sort this out. I sure don't want COVID-19 or the potential long term issues that accompany it.

 

[Clerkp]

But if I leave my TV on, I can sleep without any problem.

OP, if you can sleep with just a TV consider yourself among the lucky ones. For me, sleep is the worst time. I have a hard time tuning it out at night whereas during the day I can go hours without thinking much about it. My bedroom arrangement consists of a fan, white noise machine and TV and even with all that I can still hear the tinnitus.

 

[Lane]

Also, not getting the vaccine isn't really a good option either to be honest. COVID-19 is known to cause all sorts of health problems including tinnitus and hearing loss.

Hi @Clerkp -- Pfizer says their new drug to treat COVID-19 reduces the rate of hospitalization of COVID-19 patients by 90%. I believe that's better than the vaccine. Plus, there are some pretty simple, safe, and inexpensive things a person can do to prevent serious COVID-19.

Having optimal Vit. D levels is a top one, but there are many more things that can be done as well. COVID-19 vaccines make no sense to me whatsoever considering the disease (to my way of thinking) is pretty easily preventable, and easily treated if it is contracted.

 

[ajc]

@Lane, you are the type of anti-vaxxer who I think is harmful to our society, but please at least be honest when you finally catch COVID-19 and possibly end up hospitalized on a ventilator; come tell us about your experience then. I've seen a lot of people like you who will only realize the importance of the vaccines once at the ICU.

 

[Brian P]

@Lane, you are the type of anti-vaxxer who I think is harmful to our society, but please at least be honest when you finally catch COVID-19 and possibly end up hospitalized on a ventilator; come tell us about your experience then. I've seen a lot of people like you who will only realize the importance of the vaccines once at the ICU.

No one ends up on a ventilator unless they are over 60.

 

[Clerkp]

No one ends up on a ventilator unless they are over 60.

I wasn't looking to start a vaccine fight and respect your personal views and choice. In any event this is false and this line of thinking is why 700k people are dead in the US.

 

[GregCA]

Pfizer says their new drug to treat COVID-19 reduces the rate of hospitalization of COVID-19 patients by 90%. I believe that's better than the vaccine.

It's in the same ballpark (from https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7038e1.htm):

Among U.S. adults without immunocompromising conditions, vaccine effectiveness against COVID-19 hospitalization during March 11–August 15, 2021, was higher for the Moderna vaccine (93%) than the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine (88%) and the Janssen vaccine (71%).​

Of course, the downside is that a post-symptomatic treatment is less effective method at preventing transmission vs a vaccine, so there's that.

No one ends up on a ventilator unless they are over 60.

Not even close: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/covid19/nhcs/intubation-ventilator-use.htm
Select "Age" in the group pop-up menu to visualize.

 

[Matchbox]

No one ends up on a ventilator unless they are over 60.

This is likely untrue. And besides, I don't want insane amounts of fucked up ACE2 receptors in my body post covid to wreck havoc on literally everything when I get older.

 

[Lane]

@Lane, you are the type of anti-vaxxer who I think is harmful to our society

Well, I'm not the one injecting an extremely dubiously fast-tracked experimental vaccine--with unknown long-term side effects--into the arms of 23-some million American children ages 5-11. Astonishingly, this comes at a time when it appears a new drug made by Pfizer will possibly be approved by the end of the year, and which apparently eliminates most of the risk of developing severe COVID-19.

So why the rush to conduct such a dangerous experiment, when this drug will likely be available soon? And on children who are at extremely low risk of serious complications from a COVID-19 infection to begin with--and have little to benefit from it? (Hint; think $$$) How many of these children will develop lifelong tinnitus as a result, or other life-altering "side effects? In my mind, even one is too many.

Sorry, but I think you should do your homework, and reevaluate who truly poses risks to our society, and our nation's children.

 

[Tinker Bell]

No one ends up on a ventilator unless they are over 60.

This is false. The median age may be 60, but there are still younger people who end up on a ventilator due to COVID-19. Here's a very small sampling:

11 children on ventilator in SC:

https://www.live5news.com/2021/09/1...-pediatric-hospitals-than-any-point-pandemic/

15 year old on ventilator:

https://www.wsaz.com/2021/07/27/tee...ing-covid-19-days-before-planned-vaccination/

30 year old on ventilator for 8 weeks:

https://www.globalnews.ca/news/7213956/covid-coronavirus-toronto-young-man-humber-river/

There are numerous stories like this. I personally know of a marathon runner in their 40s who spent months on a ventilator.

 

[Clerkp]

So why the rush to conduct such a dangerous experiment, when this drug will likely be available soon?

Sorry, but I think you should do your homework, and reevaluate who truly poses risks to our society, and our nation's children.

The jury is out on this pill and its potential side effects as well. And it's not clear when this pill will be available to the general population. It's being marked for a small group of people for now. Let's assume it's available to the public as a Tamiflu solution in 6 to 8 months from now. How many more will die between now and then?

It's fine if you don't want to get vaccinated. I get it. But there is no evidence to support your contention that it was a "dangerous experiment". None. So please keep it to the facts. And the facts we have today suggest the vaccine is safe and effective. Full stop.

 

[Lane]

the facts we have today suggest the vaccine is safe and effective. Full stop.

Tell that to the thousands who are now stuck with ongoing tinnitus, and other permanent injuries. And who knows what else in the years to come? All for no good reason (IMHO). BTW, I believe the term "safe and effective" to be one of the most successful marketing terminologies in pharmaceutical history. I don't buy it.

Also, BTW, I'm not a rabid anti-vaxxer. But I do think that scientists with no financial stake whatsoever should go back to the drawing board and develop much safer and effective vaccines. Corners have been cut, and integrity compromised as vaccine approvals have moved forward in the past several decade, often ignoring some of the most basic precepts of safety.

It's in the same ballpark (from https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7038e1.htm):
Among U.S. adults without immunocompromising conditions, vaccine effectiveness against COVID-19 hospitalization during March 11–August 15, 2021, was higher for the Moderna vaccine (93%) than the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine (88%) and the Janssen vaccine (71%).

My understanding is that optimal Vit. D levels (35 to 40 ng/mL) also produce a similar results, with those being in this range rarely needing to be hospitalized. Why don't we hear about from the news media who are always gushing over those kinds of statistics when it comes to vaccines? Other simple things can be equally effective. Combine a few of these things, and I think the chances of developing severe COVID-19 complications come pretty close to nil.

 

[Lane]

possibly end up hospitalized on a ventilator

Are you aware there are some pretty simple ways to increase oxygen levels in the body, long before a person should ever consider being put on a ventilator? The whole ventilator thing just strikes me as another cash cow (and incredibly invasive), and should be discarded for much safer, cheaper, and effective measures.

 

[Jack Straw]

Tell that to the thousands who are now stuck with ongoing tinnitus, and other permanent injuries. And who knows what else in the years to come? All for no good reason (IMHO). BTW, I believe the term "safe and effective" to be one of the most successful marketing terminologies in pharmaceutical history. I don't buy it.

Also, BTW, I'm not a rabid anti-vaxxer. But I do think that scientists with no financial stake whatsoever should go back to the drawing board and develop much safer and effective vaccines. Corners have been cut, and integrity compromised as vaccine approvals have moved forward in the past several decade, often ignoring some of the most basic precepts of safety.

My understanding is that optimal Vit. D levels (35 to 40 ng/mL) also produce a similar results, with those being in this range rarely needing to be hospitalized. Why don't we hear about from the news media who are always gushing over those kinds of statistics when it comes to vaccines? Other simple things can be equally effective. Combine a few of these things, and I think the chances of developing severe COVID-19 complications come pretty close to nil.

31% of people who get COVID-19 suffer auditory damage. 1% or less of people currently report tinnitus from vaccines. Which one are you going to risk?

 

[Lane]

31% of people who get COVID-19 suffer auditory damage. 1% or less of people currently report tinnitus from vaccines. Which one are you going to risk?

Hi @Jack Straw -- That 31% figure is quite interesting. I would be interested in how they came up with that number. If it's an accurate number, I would guess auditory damage would result from the severest cases of COVID-19, which would lead me to surmise that they also probably had some pretty low Vit. D levels in their body.

My understanding is severe COVID-19 is rare when people have optimal Vit. D levels. I truly think we'd be much farther ahead of the game if as much attention and resources that's been put on vaccines was put on treatment strategies such as IV Vit. D, IV Vit. C, HBOT, and other safe and inexpensive treatments/supplements.

Which one are you going to risk?

I guess I don't look at it as a binary choice. I believe the odds of me getting COVID-19 are very low (I know how to protect myself), and the odds of me getting severe COVID-19 if I did become infected is pretty close to zero. In short, I don't fear severe COVID-19 that "may" happen. But I do fear a COVID-19 vaccine that "will" impact my body in many ways. I'm not willing to take that risk. I don't know that I could go on if my tinnitus suddenly got worse.

 

[Clerkp]

Hi @Jack Straw I don't know that I could go on if my tinnitus suddenly got worse.

Totally get this. It's terrifying. I'm in the same boat but skipping the vaccine puts you at risk for severe COVID-19 plus it puts other human beings at risk.

I've seen reports of new tinnitus from the vaccine. Any reports of worsening tinnitus?

 

[Jack Straw]

Hi @Jack Straw -- That 31% figure is quite interesting. I would be interested in how they came up with that number. If it's an accurate number, I would guess auditory damage would result from the severest cases of COVID-19, which would lead me to surmise that they also probably had some pretty low Vit. D levels in their body.

Hearing Loss-a Camouflaged Manifestation of COVID 19 Infection

 

[Wrfortiscue]

31% of people who get COVID-19 suffer auditory damage. 1% or less of people currently report tinnitus from vaccines. Which one are you going to risk?

All I want to know is what are the tinnitus numbers with COVID-19 infection (after being vaccinated).

 

[linearb]

No one ends up on a ventilator unless they are over 60.

This is dangerous misinformation.

Toddler on ventilator fights for his life as COVID takes toll on U.S. children

Hospitalizations, Intubations Surged in Kids in Arkansas During Delta

[Pediatric] Cases experienced "dramatic, exponential growth" in summer 2021, beginning in June and peaking in August, with a 49.5% increase in cases versus the winter peak. There was also a 63.6% increase in mechanical ventilator usage among children in July versus January.

Cima said that while neither of these increases were statistically significant, he would argue they were "practically important."

"At multiple periods during our summer surge, PICU bed availability was critically low" and "reached single-digit availability throughout the entire state," he stated.

Interestingly, the one anomaly in this data was fewer cases of multi-system inflammatory syndrome in children (MIS-C) during the summer, though Cima noted since this tends to present after COVID infection, perhaps not enough time has passed to account for potential MIS-C cases.

He added that these are public health surveillance data, not a prospective cohort study, so the numbers are unadjusted, though the predominant age group who were hospitalized were less age 12 years. Pavia said this begs the question that age may be important when doing an adjusted analysis of these data.

'This is real': Fear and hope in an Arkansas pediatric ICU

The hyper-contagious delta variant has changed much of what we thought we knew about the coronavirus and children — that kids might get infected, but they were extremely unlikely to become seriously ill. Today, as delta infections mount, some front line doctors suggest children are being hospitalized at higher rates and with more serious illnesses because of the new variant — a still-unproven hypothesis. What is indisputable is that in a swath of low-vaccination states stretching from Florida, South Carolina and Texas, up to Indiana and Missouri, the first large wave of pediatric cases is hitting hard — overwhelming hospitals, dominating political debates over mask and vaccine mandates and throwing school reopening plans into disarray.

I am sure the hundreds of families already experiencing the death of a child to COVID-19, and thousands dealing with kids who have pediatric long COVID-19 would be deeply convinced that "no one ends up on a ventilator unless they are over 60".

Also people over 60 are humans with rights and don't deserve to be sacrificed on a capitalist pyre to Moloth, unless you really think Logan's Run reflects an ideal society. I personally understood that movie to be a dystopic take.

 

[Brian P]

This is dangerous misinformation.

Toddler on ventilator fights for his life as COVID takes toll on U.S. children

Hospitalizations, Intubations Surged in Kids in Arkansas During Delta

'This is real': Fear and hope in an Arkansas pediatric ICU

I am sure the hundreds of families already experiencing the death of a child to COVID-19, and thousands dealing with kids who have pediatric long COVID-19 would be deeply convinced that "no one ends up on a ventilator unless they are over 60".

Also people over 60 are humans with rights and don't deserve to be sacrificed on a capitalist pyre to Moloth, unless you really think Logan's Run reflects an ideal society. I personally understood that movie to be a dystopic take.

What I mean is you are at little risk if you aren't elderly so no need to get the shot.

 

[Damocles]

Toddler on ventilator fights for his life as COVID takes toll on U.S. children
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An article from Reuters, a news organisation whose CEO is also a member of the board of directors at.... (wait for it) Pfizer BioNTech: Pfizer appoints Thomson Reuters' CEO, James Smith to its Board of Directors (talent4boards.com)

Hospitalizations, Intubations Surged in Kids in Arkansas During Delta
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An article from MedPage Today a mainstream medical news website that rebrands itself as a "blog" to dodge criticism when it gets called out on it's dissemination of misinformation: MedPage Today's 'dinner table' stories: Do readers really know what they're being served? | (healthnewsreview.org)

'This is real': Fear and hope in an Arkansas pediatric ICU
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A hyper-emotive article published by the mainstream newspaper The Washington Post known for being completely impartial and incorruptible: Corruption at the Washington Post? (townhall.com), Commonsense & Wonder: Washington Post is totally corrupt (commonsensewonder.blogspot.com), The New York Times and Washington Post both have financial ties to China, enabling communist manipulation of America's corrupt, dishonest news giants (corruption.news)

Anyone else seeing a problem here?

Where are all the "whitepapers" @linearb? We want the "primary sources" you get ALL your information from.

P.S: Don't forget to mention your Pfizer stock. I'd say you're about as impartial as these MSM news sites you've linked us to.

 

[linearb]

What I mean is you are at little risk if you aren't elderly so no need to get the shot.

Again, I disagree.

First and foremost, elimination of serious diseases with vaccines has been a herd immunity strategy in this country since smallpox; if not, we never would have eliminated smallpox. (The early smallpox vaccine actually had a 1% fatality rate, similar to wild type COVID-19 IFR ). Vaccines work best when they have the highest penetration and circulation of a pathogen is the most limited. We all breathe the same air. (Conversely if someone wants to go to the trouble of living in their own air supply 24/7 I have no opinion on their vaccine status).

Secondly, it's just not true that you're at "little risk", depending how we define "little". Over the last several weeks COVID-19 has been a top-3 killer of all adults over 35. That's not a thing which has happened with any other disease in living memory in the USA; much of this is unprecedented. No reason to freak out, but also no reason to shy away from the hard realities.

This is a vascular disease we don't understand that well. Right now it's killing tremendous numbers of people every day in a fairly horrible way, and they're not all over some certain age, or unvaccinated. It may be that once we get through the current waves of death and pick up the broken fragments of the medical system, we find out that the long term effects for survivors are mostly unremarkable; it may also be that long COVID-19 is both fairly common and commonly debilitating over time. That's a wide spectrum of possibilities, so, without being alarmist about it I am certainly interested in doing everything possible to not get the novel vascular virus and also prevent my children from getting the novel vascular virus.

 

[linearb]

31% of people who get COVID-19 suffer auditory damage. 1% or less of people currently report tinnitus from vaccines. Which one are you going to risk?

This is the other obvious tautology; if anything people concerned about their ears would have a good reason to get the vaccine even if it wasn't generally a good idea. The data on this is not really questionable at this point. Without discounting the possibility of vaccine damage, COVID-19 is likely to damage the hearing of 1 out of 3 people which includes low-grade infections in multiple studies.

 

[Jack Straw]

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Toddler on ventilator fights for his life as COVID takes toll on U.S. children
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An article from Reuters, a news organisation whose CEO is also a member of the board of directors at.... (wait for it) Pfizer BioNTech: Pfizer appoints Thomson Reuters' CEO, James Smith to its Board of Directors (talent4boards.com)

Hospitalizations, Intubations Surged in Kids in Arkansas During Delta
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An article from MedPage Today a mainstream medical news website that rebrands itself as a "blog" to dodge criticism when it gets called out on it's dissemination of misinformation: MedPage Today's 'dinner table' stories: Do readers really know what they're being served? | (healthnewsreview.org)

'This is real': Fear and hope in an Arkansas pediatric ICU
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A hyper-emotive article published by the mainstream newspaper The Washington Post known for being completely impartial and incorruptible: Corruption at the Washington Post? (townhall.com), Commonsense & Wonder: Washington Post is totally corrupt (commonsensewonder.blogspot.com), The New York Times and Washington Post both have financial ties to China, enabling communist manipulation of America's corrupt, dishonest news giants (corruption.news)

Anyone else seeing a problem here?

Where are all the "whitepapers" @linearb? We want the "primary sources" you get ALL your information from.

P.S: Don't forget to mention your Pfizer stock. I'd say you're about as impartial as these MSM news sites you've linked us to.

I now see your angle. You think this is a big conspiracy for Pfizer and drug companies to make money? Honestly hilarious.

Do you also believe in the Illuminati? What about Santa?

I expected better from you John Adams.

 

[Cernuto]

Why are there so many people who support big pharma these days? It's like the vast majority of social media has been bought out by Pfizer and Moderna. Did we forget the opioid crisis they caused?

Hospitals were understaffed, lacked beds, and had extremely long ER wait times long before COVID-19 came along. Why is it such a big deal now? Why are the unvaxxed blamed for a problem that existed long before COVID-19 did?

Doping someone up with benzos, sticking them on a ventilator, turning off the lights, and then leaving the room is an acceptable form of treatment?

The leading causes of death in the U.S. are still heart disease and cancer by a significant margin. Both conditions are preventable with diet and exercise. How come they don't receive nearly the same attention that COVID-19 does?

 

[Ed209]

My understand is that optimal Vit. D levels (35 to 40 ng/mL) also produce a similar results, with those being in this range rarely needing to be hospitalized.

I was on a high dose of vitamin C and D leading up to my hospitalisation with type 1 respiratory failure. I was also on L-Arginine, as I've previously stated. My mom was also hospilised, and 10 people we knew died (my mom had to witness someone suffocating to death which she will never get over).

I'm sorry, but in this instance you are wrong. If you ended up in the position my mother and I were in, then your opinion would change quicker than Minbo Shim's prices.

 

[linearb]

Why are there so many people who support big pharma these days? It's like the vast majority of social media has been bought out by Pfizer and Moderna. Did we forget the opioid crisis they caused?

I despise pharma and have been a tremendous critic for years; I feel I was iatrogenically damaged by the pharma industry pushing ADD drugs when I was a youth, and I can cite a dozen examples of hideous, immoral and often illegal things pharma co's have done. I was cynical enough about this that I bought a bunch of Pfizer stock the day I got jabbed (it's up 40%!)

However, the fact that our pharma companies and infrastructure sucks does not mean that drugs don't work and in the case of the COVID-19 vacccines, based on extensive global data from hundreds of millions of people, they work very well.

Hospitals were understaffed, lacked beds, and had extremely long ER wait times long before COVID-19 came along. Why is it such a big deal now? Why are the unvaxxed blamed for a problem that existed long before COVID-19 did?

The medical system was beyond stressed and much was written about this well before COVID-19. The difference is, "stressed" used to mean that you often had a long wait time in the ER. Now, "COVID-19 stressed" means staffing and beds are so bad, people are dying in ambulences waiting to come inside, dying of other non-COVID-19 conditions because they can't get a bed, etc. That is not normal.

Doping someone up with benzos, sticking them on a ventilator, turning off the lights, and then leaving the room is an acceptable form of treatment?

This is more or less the only thing you can do for people with late stage COVID-19. It has a pretty high mortality rate, because advance COVID-19 fucks you up bad once it progresses to where you need to be vented. People do get pulled off vents alive, though. I interact with a lot of ICU staff; they have told me your odds are not good if you get vented but for me, as a generally healthy 40 year old with a family, it would be unwise to actually have a DNI order.

The leading causes of death in the U.S. are still heart disease and cancer by a significant margin. Both conditions are preventable with diet and exercise. How come they don't receive nearly the same attention that COVID-19 does?

These conditions receive immense attention, immense funding, and are constantly a source of media discussion, medical pressure, etc.

Cancer is more obviously linked to environmental factors than obesity, but we're increasingly finding out that stuff like pediatric exposure to microplastics and other hormonally active common pollutants can predispose people to obesity. It's in the interests of capital at present to keep pumping the world full of pollutants and plastics, and, as a result, actually "solving" those problems isn't really possible under capitalism, other than "eat as healthy as you can, don't smoke, don't live in or near a city, spend as little time as possible in cars since they notably increase your cancer risks", etc. It's pretty easy for me to spend less than an hour a week inside a car. That's pretty hard for most Americans.

My understanding is that optimal Vit. D levels (35 to 40 ng/mL) also produce a similar results, with those being in this range rarely needing to be hospitalized.

Do you have some large-sample-size peer reviewed replicated studies to back this up? We've had all kinds of basically nonsense preprints that appeared to show an effect of some kind and could not be replicable. Totally possible I missed some papers but I track this stuff pretty closely and I have not seen anything resembling equivocal data on Vit D.

Edit: @Lane I ask this with real curiosity and respect. You know I'm vaxxed, you also know I look at the data and fully believe the vaxxes are definitely not 100% (I know a vaxxed but immunocompromised person who just died of COVID-19), and if there's basic vitamin supplementation I am not already doing which will further reduce my risks of serious disease, I will happily do it. I just wanna know what data I am doing it based on

COVID-19 is Deadlier Than the Flu for Children

As far as kids... welp. "Oh it's ONLY 500 kids that died?" No big deal, right, "only" 500 sets of grieving parents / grandparents / siblings.

A lack of flu deaths right now is unsurprising because of COVID-19 measures plus COVID-19 killing flu-vulnerable people at a higher rate, but, in a bad year we have something like 175 pediatric flu deaths (many of which would have been avoidable if Americans had better common sense about shit like "if you're sick, don't fucking go to work")

Anyway, all of this has strayed from the OP. I wanna make one thing super clear:

I am completely open to the idea that @Erdem had tinnitus that may have been caused by the vaccine, and that @Brian P's may have been made worse. I only say "may have", because statistically, some amount of people will develop random tinnitus over any time frame, and we just vaxed 2/3 the country, so we're bound to get some false positives.

However, I am not denying the possibility, I feel that both Pfizer jabs caused me spikes which thankfully receded, this issue is probably why I'll do a Pfizer booster instead of mix & match with Moderna (better the devil you know).

Vaccines deliberately create a systemic inflammatory response and there is, obviously, some amount of risk there.

The elephant in the room, again, ignoring all death and social responsibility is that the reports of tinnitus are relatively tiny compared to the number of people vaxx'd, and the reports of tinnitus following COVID-19 infections are 7~15% of cases, and the sicker you get the more likely you are to have long term or serious consequences.

Tinnitus and equilibrium disorders in COVID-19 patients: preliminary results (2020)

Conclusion: This study suggests that the presence of subjective otoneurological symptoms such as tinnitus and balance disorders can affect COVID-19 patients; further studies are necessary to investigate the prevalence and pathophysiological mechanisms underlying these subjective symptoms in COVID-19 patients.

The Impact of COVID-19 and the Pandemic on Tinnitus: A Systematic Review

The pooled estimated prevalence of tinnitus post COVID-19 was 8% (CI: 5 to 13%). Medical professionals should be aware that tinnitus might be more problematic following the pandemic or after having COVID-19.

Do COVID-19 vaccines cause or exacerbate tinnitus? Quite possibly, in some unfortunate and rare circumstances.

Does COVID-19 cause or exacerbate tinnitus and also cause permanent hearing loss? Yes, for sure, in at least 5% of cases and possibly as many as 15%.

I am open to the idea that getting boosted may give me a spike which may or may not recede.

I'm still getting boosted, and I have the same thought every time I have to operate loud machinery, even with earpro. I have the same thought every time I am working with dangerous chemicals. This is life with tinnitus, for me: a constant realization it's there, it could get worse, and I should do everything in my power to prevent that without also allowing it to run my life or cause me to make otherwise unsafe decisions.

 

[Cernuto]

However, the fact that our pharma companies and infrastructure sucks does not mean that drugs don't work and in the case of the COVID-19 vacccines, based on extensive global data from hundreds of millions of people, they work very well.

Why are we still seeing spikes in cases (like in the UK currently sitting at 68.2% vaccination rate)? I would expect with the vaccine rollouts the cases would go down. The vaccinated should attenuate the spikes somewhat if the vaccines do in fact work very well. This clearly isn't happening. Why is that?

The medical system was beyond stressed and much was written about this well before COVID-19. The difference is, "stressed" used to mean that you often had a long wait time in the ER. Now, "COVID-19 stressed" means staffing and beds are so bad, people are dying in ambulences waiting to come inside, dying of other non-COVID-19 conditions because they can't get a bed, etc. That is not normal

Your Pfizer stock jumped 40% because of a vaccine funded by the federal government that we the taxpayer (and even the unvaccinated) paid for and here we are still lacking beds and nurses. Why is that?

These conditions receive immense attention, immense funding, and are constantly a source of media discussion, medical pressure, etc.

Cardiovascular disease is by far the leading cause of death in the US. The majority of those cases are preventable through diet and exercise. Do you really want me to believe that cardiovascular disease is receiving anywhere near the same amount of attention COVID-19 is? Have you watched the news lately?