Please Help Me, I'm Desperate (Problems Started After Trying to Get a Wax Blockage Out By Myself)

Chris Waller

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Author
May 28, 2017
17
Brighton, UK
Tinnitus Since
18/05/2017
Cause of Tinnitus
Infection
So 2 weeks ago I thought I had ear wax blockage, I decided to try and get it out myself... bad idea.

I ended up with trauma to the top of my eardrum (right ear) and to the ear canal and an infection. The doctor gave me some ear spray called Otomize, this sort of worked and they said the ear is healing but they took me off that and gave me some drops called Ciprofloxacin, I've also been given zopiclone sleeping tablets and propranolol for the anxiety.

I can hear myself quite loudly in my head when I chew and talk or brush my teeth I also have a fairly loud hissing noise! I've had these symptoms for about 10 days.

Is it likely that this will get better soon? The doctors tell me that most of these cases get better within a few weeks, I need hope I've been having suicidal thoughts, I can't concentrate!

I'm booked in for a hearing test in 4 weeks I'm not sure if i can carry on like this, close to losing my job and my life :(
 
Hi Chris,
It sounds like you have Hyperacusis (sensitive to sounds)as well as tinnitus.
Try stay calm and relax as anxiety will spike tinnitus also.
Give your ear a few weeks to heel and I'm sure it should settle so for now try stay positive and keep soft relaxing sound on around you.
Love glynis
 
Hey @Chris Waller,

Sorry to read about your recent challenges. One of the crucial things I have realized after reading some many stories, and meeting quite a few people with tinnitus of all shapes and sizes, is that every one is different. What seems universal however is when one gets overly attached to a timeline for a resolution to their problem. I am not a doctor, so it would be wrong to give you a prognosis, other than to say the body is a pretty good self-healer, and the best environment for healing is a stable mind and healthy lifestyle. Have you forgiven yourself for trying to resolve the issue to clear out the eardrum?

What is your biggest concern right now? You mention quite a few things, and the last statement says quite a lot. Its only been too weeks - is it really true that you might lose your job?

Whats the most important for you right now Chris? Is it you tinnitus, is it the hope that you are looking for, is it a way to cope so you can feel normal again, is it the fear of losing your job, or is it the fear of losing your life?

Good luck; you have made it two weeks, and you have found a great place in this community.

mf
 
Hi @Chris Waller

The ear is a very delicate and sophisticated organ. It is also quite resilient and can repair itself in a lot of instances providing it is left alone which I advise you to do. Follow the instructions from your doctor and wait for the hearing test. It likely everything will be back to normal by then. There is an old saying regarding the ear which is: Never put anything smaller than your elbow in your ear. In other words don't put any type if instrument in it. If you listen to music through headphones I advise that you don't for a while. When you resume keep the volume as low as possible. If you can do without using headphones so much the better.

I have written an article about tinnitus, treatments and coping methods that you might find helpful. Click on the link below.
Try not to worry too much in time hopefully everything will return to normal.
Michael

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/tinnitus-a-personal-view.18668/
 
So 2 weeks ago I thought I had ear wax blockage, I decided to try and get it out myself... bad idea.

I ended up with trauma to the top of my eardrum (right ear) and to the ear canal and an infection. The doctor gave me some ear spray called Otomize, this sort of worked and they said the ear is healing but they took me off that and gave me some drops called Ciprofloxacin, I've also been given zopiclone sleeping tablets and propranolol for the anxiety.

I can hear myself quite loudly in my head when I chew and talk or brush my teeth I also have a fairly loud hissing noise! I've had these symptoms for about 10 days.

Is it likely that this will get better soon? The doctors tell me that most of these cases get better within a few weeks, I need hope I've been having suicidal thoughts, I can't concentrate!

I'm booked in for a hearing test in 4 weeks I'm not sure if i can carry on like this, close to losing my job and my life :(

You might have a blockage in your Eustachian tube/s which would directly affect your hearing. Especially since you mentioned the occlusion effect (hearing things louder in your head). I'd book an appointment to see an ENT and get yourself thoroughly assessed. You need more than just a quick look through an otoscope; you need to be properly checked out.
 
Hey guys thanks for the speedy replies im glad i am not alone in this same sort of mess.

I dont believe my eustachian tubes are blocked because i can blow air in and out through them as normal.

over ear headphones are the only thing cancelling out the ringing :( but they are not loud the ringing is very very loud and it scares the hell out of me.

Im not sure if i cant go back to work, i operate a large saw that is very noisy they do provide foam ear plugs but the tinnitus is going to put my mind off work im not sure what to do :(

do you guys think i should wait 4 weeks or should i try and get a private appointment in the next 2 weeks?
 
Hey guys thanks for the speedy replies im glad i am not alone in this same sort of mess.

I dont believe my eustachian tubes are blocked because i can blow air in and out through them as normal.

over ear headphones are the only thing cancelling out the ringing :( but they are not loud the ringing is very very loud and it scares the hell out of me.

Im not sure if i cant go back to work, i operate a large saw that is very noisy they do provide foam ear plugs but the tinnitus is going to put my mind off work im not sure what to do :(

do you guys think i should wait 4 weeks or should i try and get a private appointment in the next 2 weeks?

Go private if it's worrying you. The sooner the better. Anytime I have a serious health issue I usually always end up going private. This comes down to waiting times, and the general interest level can be better because you're paying them. There's no rush and they tend to listen to everything you say (not guaranteed though). The obvious downside is cost, but when something becomes a problem to your wellbeing money needs to take a backseat.
 
Go private if it's worrying you. The sooner the better. Anytime I have a serious health issue I usually always end up going private. This comes down to waiting times, and the general interest level can be better because you're paying them. There's no rush and they tend to listen to everything you say (not guaranteed though). The obvious downside is cost, but when something becomes a problem to your wellbeing money needs to take a backseat.

Money will be a problem though :/

Have any of you heard of this before any very similar cases? surely if i have not perforated my eardrum i cant have done that much damage?

Im sorry but im so scared right now and everyone around me is just telling me to get on with it.
 
@Chris Waller
If you live in the UK then I don't advise you to go private. You will get the best help and long term aftercare under the NHS. No private treatment can match it I assure you. Private healthcare are not into the long haul, they are in it for the money and a quick fix. Many people have contacted me with problems with the ear and have gone private. Often hearing and MRI scans are normal and they are told to go to the NHS after paying a huge private bill.

Twenty one years ago when I first got tinnitus I wanted to go private and my GP told me what I have just told you, and found it to be true.
Try not to worry, If you are feeling pain in the ears, dizziness or balance problems then see your doctor as this needs to be investigated. You will just be parting with a lot of money by going private and in the end you are likely to be told, nothing is wrong go to the NHS.
I wish you well.
Michael
 
@Chris Waller
If you live in the UK then I don't advise you to go private. You will get the best help and long term aftercare under the NHS. No private treatment can match it I assure you. Private healthcare are not into the long hall, they are in it for the money and a quick fix. Many people have contacted me with problems with the ear and have gone private. Often hearing and MRI scans are normal and they are told to go to the NHS after paying a huge private bill.

Twenty one years ago when I first got tinnitus I wanted to go private and my GP told me what I have just told you, and found it to be true.
Try not to worry, If you are feeling pain in the ears, dizziness or balance problems then see your doctor as this needs to be investigated. You will just be parting with a lot of money by going private and in the end you are likely to be told, nothing is wrong go to the NHS.
I wish you well.
Michael
Thank you michael, have you had tinnitus for that long? how do you deal with it?
 
Money will be a problem though :/

Have any of you heard of this before any very similar cases? surely if i have not perforated my eardrum i cant have done that much damage?

Im sorry but im so scared right now and everyone around me is just telling me to get on with it.

The acute stage of tinnitus is the worst Chris, it's a tough time that we all have vast experience of. Are you from the UK? If so, then you could pay for a private consultation (around £150-200) and then get follow up treatments or tests via the NHS.

All I can say is that stress makes it worse, but there's nothing anyone on here can say to help that. It's an automatic response to a threat that you have little control over, but you could try controlling your breathing to bring your anxiety down. Try not to let your thoughts wander, because inevitably when we're stressed, our thoughts tend to become catastrophic which doesn't help in any way.

Get yourself to an ENT, and in the mean time go easy on yourself.
 
@Chris Waller

Click on my Avatar and choose "started thereads" in the list you will see my post titled: My experience with tinnitus. It will tell you everything that I have been through. I also advise you to read my article: Tinnitus, A personal View. That is also in the list.
Michael
 
@Chris Waller
If you live in the UK then I don't advise you to go private. You will get the best help and long term aftercare under the NHS. No private treatment can match it I assure you. Private healthcare are not into the long haul, they are in it for the money and a quick fix. Many people have contacted me with problems with the ear and have gone private. Often hearing and MRI scans are normal and they are told to go to the NHS after paying a huge private bill.

Twenty one years ago when I first got tinnitus I wanted to go private and my GP told me what I have just told you, and found it to be true.
Try not to worry, If you are feeling pain in the ears, dizziness or balance problems then see your doctor as this needs to be investigated. You will just be parting with a lot of money by going private and in the end you are likely to be told, nothing is wrong go to the NHS.
I wish you well.
Michael

Michael, most private healthcare is both NHS and private. By going private I'm only referring to the consultation which usually saves months in terms of waiting times. It took me 6 months to see an ENT through the NHS, and a week to see one privately. They were both from the same hospital.

Private tinnitus treatments cost a fortune, so if I had to go that route, I'd definitely use the NHS.
 
Im not sure if i cant go back to work, i operate a large saw that is very noisy they do provide foam ear plugs but the tinnitus is going to put my mind off work im not sure what to do :(

Hi @Chris Waller,

I believe in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, that would be distorted thinking about the future, such as fortune telling, catastrophizing, amongst others.

What has to happen for you to feel like going back to work will actually be ok? If you lost your job, how serious would that be to your life, and what affect in your T might that have?

Incidentally, I have more focus at work now with my T than I did before, which has allowed me to touch a part of my lost self that truly loves what I do, but i had forgotten about.

Mf
 
Michael, most private healthcare is both NHS and private. By going private I'm only referring to the consultation which usually saves months in terms of waiting times.
Private tinnitus treatments cost a fortune, so if I had to go that route, I'd definitely use the NHS.

I hear you @Ed209 and respect your views but my opinon on private healthcare for tinnitus is this. I see no valid reason for a person to go private for the symptoms of tinitus when we have a fabulous healthcare system such as the NHS. If a person has pain in the ear, dizziness or balance problems then this is of more concern but this still doesn warrent seeing a private clinic, when one can go to A &E. Private consultation and basic hearing test will just reasure a patient that there's nothing drastically wrong. If they have money to burn then I guess it's okay to pursue this route.

However, many people have contacted me over they years that have gone the private route for tinnitus and regretted it. I stand by what my GP told me 21 years ago when I wanted to to to a private clinic for my tinnitus. : "You wil get the best help and long term aftercare under the NHS". Last week, I travelled to London, to my hospital that has been caring for me for 21 years and was fitted with a new White noie generator, as my current one developed a fault. Free of cost.

Michael
 
I hear you @Ed209 and respect your views but my opinon on private healthcare for tinnitus is this. I see no valid reason for a person to go private for the symptoms of tinitus when we have a fabulous healthcare system such as the NHS. If a person has pain in the ear, dizziness or balance problems then this is of more concern but this still doesn warrent seeing a private clinic, when one can go to A &E. Private consultation and basic hearing test will just reasure a patient that there's nothing drastically wrong. If they have money to burn then I guess it's okay to pursue this route.

However, many people have contacted me over they years that have gone the private route for tinnitus and regretted it. I stand by what my GP told me 21 years ago when I wanted to to to a private clinic for my tinnitus. : "You wil get the best help and long term aftercare under the NHS". Last week, I travelled to London, to my hospital that has been caring for me for 21 years and was fitted with a new White noie generator, as my current one developed a fault. Free of cost.

Michael


Michael, I only speak from experience. As much as I love the NHS, when it came to tinnitus it was a disaster for me. My gp wasn't interested, so I panicked and went to A n E. I waited nearly 4 hours to be told to go home without so much as a Dr looking in my ear. I told them repeatedly I had severe ringing, and pleaded for them to check me over, but I was told to go home. I went back to my GP to request they refer me to an ENT, because he didn't want to, but did on my request. The appointment eventually took months, and in the mean time all I wanted was an actual physical examination, so I paid an ENT and was seen within a week.

There is nothing wrong with going private if you are willing to pay to be seen quickly. You will almost certainly be seen by an NHS consultant anyway (I usually always pick private NHS consultants, because aftercare and treatments can be done via the NHS if needed). The tests they do are identicle. It's really just a time saving issue most of the time.
 
I'll add to my post above that if you don't mind waiting then it really makes little difference. The main reason to be checked is to look for any obvious abnormalities. If there is nothing wrong mechanically, or structurally, then you will have to wait it out which is what they will advise you to do. I just wanted confirmation that my ears were working properly without the 6 month wait to be honest.

The other option is to go and see an audiologist with an interest in tinnitus while you wait for an NHS appointment.

Whatever you choose to do, I wish you well and hope you don't dwell on it too much.
 
I'll add to my post above that if you don't mind waiting then it really makes little difference. The main reason to be checked is to look for any obvious abnormalities. If there is nothing wrong mechanically, or structurally, then you will have to wait it out which is what they will advise you to do. I just wanted confirmation that my ears were working properly without the 6 month wait to be honest.

The other option is to go and see an audiologist with an interest in tinnitus while you wait for an NHS appointment.

Whatever you choose to do, I wish you well and hope you don't dwell on it too much.

I dwell on it almost 24/7 and its already driving me insane, im going to really try and stick it out for as long as i can and will keep you all posted, i appreciate the help and support from everyone i needed people to talk to who experience the same sort of things i guess its just too early at this stage to be worrying too much.
 
There is nothing wrong with going private if you are willing to pay to be seen quickly. You will almost certainly be seen by an NHS consultant anyway (I usually always pick private NHS consultants, because aftercare and treatments can be done via the NHS if needed). The tests they do are identicle. It's really just a time saving issue most of the time.

I agree @Ed209 nothing is wrong with going private but in this instance I disagree with you I'm afraid. The onset of my tinnitus was very similar to yours and I was so distraught I appeared at my GP every day for 8 days after being told to go home it's tinnitus. After 8 days he looked at me and was very concerned and made the referral to ENT. The appointment was 6 months away.

What a lot of people don't realize Ed and I didn't at the time. The best treatment for the onset of tinnitus is to leave it alone, because the ear is such a delicate organ and in most cases will right itself. For this reason, most ENT doctors prefer to see someone that has "straight forward tinnitus" at around 6 months. This gives time for the tinnitus to either go away or a person habituates to the condition naturally. After 6 months, if a person is still having problems with tinnitus and is unable to habituate, then tests and a referral to a Hearing Therapist/Audilogist for tinnitus management is usually recommended.

When a person is seen at ENT either NHS or Private under 6 months for "straightforward tinnitus" if all tests come back normal, often a patient is told to go home and leave things for a while and we'll see how you get on. This is the reason why it is not recommended to go to ENT until at least 4 months preferably 6 months, providing there are no additional symptoms: Dizziness, pain in the ears, balance problems etc.

The best treatment for tinnitus in the early stages is to do nothing as mentioned above. After a period of time if the situation hasn't improved, then a referral to ENT under the NHS .
Michael
 
I agree @Ed209 nothing is wrong with going private but in this instance I disagree with you I'm afraid. The onset of my tinnitus was very similar to yours and I was so distraught I appeared at my GP every day for 8 days after being told to go home it's tinnitus. After 8 days he looked at me and was very concerned and made the referral to ENT. The appointment was 6 months away.

What a lot of people don't realize Ed and I didn't at the time. The best treatment for the onset of tinnitus is to leave it alone, because the ear is such a delicate organ and in most cases will right itself. For this reason, most ENT doctors prefer to see someone that has "straight forward tinnitus" at around 6 months. This gives time for the tinnitus to either go away for a person habituates to the condition naturally. After 6 months, if a person is still having problems with tinnitus and is unable to habituate, then tests and a referral to a Hearing Therapist/Audilogist for tinnitus management is usually recommended.

When a person is seen at ENT either NHS or Private under 6 months for "straightforward tinnitus" if all tests come back normal, often a patient is told to go home and leave things for a while and we'll see how you get on. This is the reason why it is not recommended to go to ENT until at least 4 months preferably 6 months, providing there are no additional symptoms: Dizziness, pain in the ears, balance problems etc.

The best treatment for tinnitus in the early stages is to do nothing as mentioned above. After a period of time if the situation hasn't improved, then a referral to ENT under the NHS .
Michael

I am 100% having balance issues because my right ear feels so clogged, im not sure what that means. I am seeing an ENT in 4 weeks as stated before is that too early? if i am still exactly the same in 4 weeks im pretty sure i would have gone completely crazy.
 
I dwell on it almost 24/7 and its already driving me insane, im going to really try and stick it out for as long as i can and will keep you all posted, i appreciate the help and support from everyone i needed people to talk to who experience the same sort of things i guess its just too early at this stage to be worrying too much.

Welcome to the club. It's not easy, but in the beginning it is absolutely awful. Put it this way I didn't get out of bed for a week and I felt completely suicidal. It was a terrifying time and I can assure you there are thousands on here who have felt, or are feeling, every ounce of what you are now.

Stress can make it worse though, so try to distract yourself by doing other things. I know this is incredibly hard to do, but you must try. Don't let your thoughts race away with you because they never offer solutions, only misery. Try to remain calm and think positive.
 
I am 100% having balance issues because my right ear feels so clogged, im not sure what that means. I am seeing an ENT in 4 weeks as stated before is that too early? if i am still exactly the same in 4 weeks im pretty sure i would have gone completely crazy.

When you say having balance issues. Is your walking unsteady? Do you feel like you're falling?
 
I agree @Ed209 nothing is wrong with going private but in this instance I disagree with you I'm afraid. The onset of my tinnitus was very similar to yours and I was so distraught I appeared at my GP every day for 8 days after being told to go home it's tinnitus. After 8 days he looked at me and was very concerned and made the referral to ENT. The appointment was 6 months away.

What a lot of people don't realize Ed and I didn't at the time. The best treatment for the onset of tinnitus is to leave it alone, because the ear is such a delicate organ and in most cases will right itself. For this reason, most ENT doctors prefer to see someone that has "straight forward tinnitus" at around 6 months. This gives time for the tinnitus to either go away or a person habituates to the condition naturally. After 6 months, if a person is still having problems with tinnitus and is unable to habituate, then tests and a referral to a Hearing Therapist/Audilogist for tinnitus management is usually recommended.

When a person is seen at ENT either NHS or Private under 6 months for "straightforward tinnitus" if all tests come back normal, often a patient is told to go home and leave things for a while and we'll see how you get on. This is the reason why it is not recommended to go to ENT until at least 4 months preferably 6 months, providing there are no additional symptoms: Dizziness, pain in the ears, balance problems etc.

The best treatment for tinnitus in the early stages is to do nothing as mentioned above. After a period of time if the situation hasn't improved, then a referral to ENT under the NHS .
Michael

It depends on the personality as well Michael. I can say with some sincerity that I'm not sure I'd have lasted 6 months (without considerable mental trauma) without an expert telling me that my ears were mechanically sound. At the time I was just desperate to see someone who knew what was happening to me. To hear him say my ears were fine and that my hearing was perfect offered some relief. Indeed, they always tell you to wait it out, but at the time I really did want to talk to an expert more than a forum.

Even when you know the outcome, just seeking help and speaking to an expert can be therapeutic in itself. It feels like you're taking some kind of action. I'm aware we're not all the same, and some are happy to wait, so like I said before, no matter what choice you make, we all end up in the same place at the end.

If it's a mechanical fault, however, such as a cholesteatoma, eardrum problem, or a problem with the bones, then an early inspection of the ear can lead to quicker treatment. This is really rare however.
 
I am 100% having balance issues because my right ear feels so clogged, im not sure what that means. I am seeing an ENT in 4 weeks as stated before is that too early? if i am still exactly the same in 4 weeks im pretty sure i would have gone completely crazy.

There are many things that can cause balance issues, which is why an ENT needs to see you. You should hopefully get some answers pretty soon.
 
It depends on the personality as well Michael. I can say with some sincerity that I'm not sure I'd have lasted 6 months (without considerable mental trauma) without an expert telling me that my ears were mechanically sound. At the time I was just desperate to see someone who knew what was happening to me. To hear him say my ears were fine and that my hearing was perfect offered some relief. Indeed, they always tell you to wait it out, but at the time I really did want to talk to an expert more than a forum.

Even when you know the outcome, just seeking help and speaking to an expert can be therapeutic in itself. It feels like you're taking some kind of action. I'm aware we're not all the same, and some are happy to wait, so like I said before, no matter what choice you make, we all end up in the same place at the end.

If it's a mechanical fault, however, such as a cholesteatoma, eardrum problem, or a problem with the bones, then an early inspection of the ear can lead to quicker treatment. This is really rare however.

I agree with you Ed that is does depend on a person's personality and their mental wellbeing. Funny enough, I am writing an article on this same thing at this moment. What help is available for people new to tinnitus and those that have a resurgence of it after a while. I just can't get it to flow right and it's been a thorn in my neck which I don't like! Some people do need that reassurance there is nothing drastically wrong and they aren't going out of their mind. Under these circumstances I advise arriving at the GP surgery everyday (as I once did) and get a referral to a Hearing Therapist for counselling. It of little use being referred to a psychologist for example, as the first thing they say: " I know nothing about tinnitus".

For this reason I am a believer that if a person is having a difficult time coping with tinnitus, to go on a course of Antidepressants.
Michael
 
I agree with you Ed that is does depend on a person's personality and their mental wellbeing. Funny enough, I am writing an article on this same thing at this moment. What help is available for people new to tinnitus and those that have a resurgence of it after a while. I just can't get it to flow right and it's been a thorn in my neck which I don't like! Some people do need that reassurance there is nothing drastically wrong and they aren't going out of their mind. Under these circumstances I advise arriving at the GP surgery everyday (as I once did) and get a referral to a Hearing Therapist for counselling. It of little use being referred to a psychologist for example, as the first thing they say: " I know nothing about tinnitus".

For this reason I am a believer that if a person is having a difficult time coping with tinnitus, to go on a course of Antidepressants.
Michael

When im walking sometimes i will sway to the right or left. bending over to pick up something i sometimes stumble. I keep forgetting things all the time because my mind i so concentrated on whats going on there is one thing that helps my mind and thats alcohol... not good i know but it temporarily takes my mind off it.

Im going to try and stick out work this week, eat as much as i can and see the doctor the week after if things have not improved for anti depressants etc... im really not happy but there is not much anyone can do right now :(
 
When im walking sometimes i will sway to the right or left. bending over to pick up something i sometimes stumble. I keep forgetting things all the time because my mind i so concentrated on whats going on there is one thing that helps my mind and thats alcohol... not good i know but it temporarily takes my mind off it.Im going to try and stick out work this week, eat as much as i can and see the doctor the week after if things have not improved for anti depressants etc... im really not happy but there is not much anyone can do right now :(

If you are able to take some time off work I advise that you do. Read my article as I believe it will help allay some of the concerns you have.
Best of luck
Michael

PS: My tinnitus and hyperacusis were very sever in the early days and alcohol helped me many times to get through the night when nothing else helped. I only took it during the evenings and always in moderation.
 
If you are able to take some time off work I advise that you do. Read my article as I believe it will help allay some of the concerns you have.
Best of luck
Michael

PS: My tinnitus and hyperacusis were very sever in the early days and alcohol helped me many times to get through the night when nothing else helped. I only took it during the evenings and always in moderation.

If i don't go to work i don't get paid, i moved out of my parents house last year into my girlfriends parents house, if i don't pay the rent i will be kicked out and have to move back in with my parents who now live in wales and my 6 years relationship will break down ( i live in england ) so this really is a big problem for me.
 
If i don't go to work i don't get paid, i moved out of my parents house last year into my girlfriends parents house, if i don't pay the rent i will be kicked out and have to move back in with my parents who now live in wales and my 6 years relationship will break down ( i live in england ) so this really is a big problem for me.

I understand where you are coming from Chris, that's why I said: If you are able to take time off work. Tinnitus can be stressful so try and take things easy and don't push yourself too hard.
I wish you well.
Michael
 

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