Reduction of Tinnitus with Treatment for Digestive Issues — Permea Regul Fort

[Theady]

Hi,

Unfortunately, I have developed tinnitus after using poppers, specifically amyl nitrite, over a short period of time. It started in June, along with moderate hyperacusis. I've noticed that when I take a dietary supplement for my digestive issues called 'Permea Regul Fort,' my tinnitus reduces or even becomes inaudible. As soon as I stop the treatment, it comes back. The problem is that it's very expensive, and I can't afford to take it every day over a long period. I would like to isolate certain components to try them individually. Do you have any idea what might work? I've already tried NAC, D3 vitamin and Zinc on its own without success. Here's the composition:

Fibres d'acacia - Fibregum™ - 4,7 g
L-glutamine - 3 g
Quercétine - 980 mg
Gamma-oryzanol - 970 mg
2'fucosyllactose - CARE4U® - 240 mg
N-acétyl-cystéine - 200 mg
L-méthionine - 100 mg
L-thréonine - 100 mg
L-sérine - 50 mg
Extrait d'oranger et pomelo – Microbiomex® - 500 mg

Titré en bioflavonoïdes:

Hespéridine - 400 mg
Naringine - 25 mg
Extrait de boswellia – Boswellin® Super - 300 mg

Titré en acides boswelliques - 225 mg
dont acétyl-11-kéto-β-boswellique (AKBBA) - 90 mg​

Myrtille - 200 mg
Mélisse - 200 mg
Complexe d'enzymes digestives – Digezyme® (alpha-amylase, lactase, cellulase, protéase, lipase) - 100 mg
Vitamine A - 400 mcg (50 % AR*)
Vitamine B1 - 0.55 mg (50 % AR*)
Vitamine B2 - 0.7 mg (50 % AR*)
Vitamine B3 - 8 mg (50 % AR*)
Vitamine B5 - 3 mg (50 % AR*)
Vitamine B6 - 0.7 mg (50 % AR*)
Vitamine B8 - 25 mcg (50 % AR*)
Vitamine B9 - Quatrefolic® - 100 mcg (50 % AR*)
Vitamine B12 - 1.25 mcg (50% AR*)
Vitamine C - 40 mg (50% AR*)
Vitamine D3 - 2.5 mcg (50% AR*)
Vitamine E - 6 mg (50% AR*)
Zinc - 5 mg (50% AR*)

Acacia fibers - Fibregum™ - 4.7 g
L-glutamine - 3 g
Quercetin - 980 mg
Gamma-oryzanol - 970 mg
2'fucosyllactose - CARE4U® - 240 mg
N-acetyl-cysteine - 200 mg
L-methionine - 100 mg
L-threonine - 100 mg
L-serine - 50 mg
Orange and grapefruit extract – Microbiomex® - 500 mg

Standardized in bioflavonoids:

Hesperidin - 400 mg
Naringin - 25 mg
Boswellia extract – Boswellin® Super - 300 mg

Standardized in boswellic acids - 225 mg
acetyl-11-keto-β-boswellic acid (AKBBA) - 90 mg​

Blueberry - 200 mg
Lemon balm - 200 mg
Digestive enzyme complex – Digezyme® (alpha-amylase, lactase, cellulase, protease, lipase) - 100 mg
Vitamin A - 400 mcg (50% NRV*)
Vitamin B1 - 0.55 mg (50% NRV*)
Vitamin B2 - 0.7 mg (50% NRV*)
Vitamin B3 - 8 mg (50% NRV*)
Vitamin B5 - 3 mg (50% NRV*)
Vitamin B6 - 0.7 mg (50% NRV*)
Vitamin B8 - 25 mcg (50% NRV*)
Vitamin B9 – Quatrefolic® - 100 mcg (50% NRV*)
Vitamin B12 - 1.25 mcg (50% NRV*)
Vitamin C - 40 mg (50% NRV*)
Vitamin D3 - 2.5 mcg (50% NRV*)
Vitamin E - 6 mg (50% NRV*)
Zinc - 5 mg (50% NRV*)

 

[2noist]

It's 47€ for 15 sachets? 119€ for 45 sachets? That is on the expensive side.

Have you tried these individually in same or higher doses as in your expensive supplement:

• N-acetylcysteine (NAC)
• Quercetin
• Bioflavonoids (orange, lemon, lime, grapefruit, tangerine, hesperidin and rutin)?

If it were me, I would try them together first. I don't have studies to post but I've many times seen people try these...

I don't think the benefits can come from the Vitamin A, Bs, C, D, E or Zinc as they are small amounts in that supplement.

 

[Theady]

Yes, it's really expensive but it works well for my IBS. I've only tried Quercetin, Zinc, and Vitamin D3. I'll try what you're suggesting with Quercetin and Bioflavonoids.

 

[Nick47]

Yes, it's really expensive but it works well for my IBS. I've only tried Quercetin, Zinc, and Vitamin D3. I'll try what you're suggesting with Quercetin and Bioflavonoids.

Almost all of these supplements have been tried as monotherapy with no effect. Over the last decade, experts have recommended using a combination approach to treat tinnitus, as none of the treatments seem to work well on their own. It's similar to HIV treatment, where multiple medications are used because each one alone has limited effectiveness.

In the genuine Treatments category on Tinnitus Talk, you'll find a combination of supplements under Hamid Djalilian's migraine protocol (NeuroMed).

I suggest starting there.