I had it at 15 =\ Can't even remember what silence is likeWow. Very exciting. And the founder seems to have a personal investment in this. Couldn't imagine experiencing hearing loss at 11 years old. Looking forward to updates as they come!
They don't have a "deadline" for a specific "cure". But the people involved are top notch and pioneers in inner ear biology.When is there goal to cure hearing loss?
Indeed exciting and there are some more with candidates in the pipeline. I think Soundpharmaceuticals and AcousiaTX will have something out for testing soon too.The growing list of start-ups focusing on hearing restoration is very exciting. I wish them all the best of luck!!!!
The more start ups there are, the higher the pressure is to start clinical trials sooner rather than later.Indeed exciting and there are some more with candidates in the pipeline. I think Soundpharmaceuticals and AcousiaTX will have something out for testing soon too.
Audion and Acousia.
Well... I kind of pointed out a flaw in this call for participants.There seems to be more and more of them add this on top of REGAIN in the EU as well, just hope all this regeneration fixes tinnitus the mystery.
Audion and Acousia.
Well... I kind of pointed out a flaw in this call for participants.
They want people whose main complaint is hearing loss! Not tinnitus!
Well, my main complaint is tinnitus. Hearing loss is treated more like a tangible disease, while tinnitus is just this "mystery" no one understands or wants anything to do with. When I talk to a doctor, he says that tinnitus is a "symptom"... this "mysterious symptom"... well symptom of what exactly? Many things! They say... Well I don't know about others but in my case it's most definitely caused by noise induced hearing loss. But am I an attractive candidate for a "hearing loss" clinical trial? Well no... because my main complaint is tinnitus...
I think I will just sit and wait for a call for a "tinnitus trial"...
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Yeah, I do have some mild hearing loss in the 4 kHz to 6 kHz region on my left ear. I have expressed my interest in the Regain project. Will see what they say in the coming month.If you have a measurable hearing loss I would say go for it. That way they will get solid evidence it works in treating hearing loss and if your tinnitus disappears then you're in a win-win.
What's your hearing like? I take it it's not a perfect 0 dB throughout the hearing range, if you worked in such establishments as clubs and pubs?Myself have no measurable hearing loss (on a standard audiogram) but tinnitus. I am also pretty sure my chronic tinnitus has come from noise (clubs, working in pubs with bands). If I had a measurable hearing loss I would jump straight in.
Yeah, I do have some mild hearing loss in the 4 kHz to 6 kHz region on my left ear. I have expressed my interest in the Regain project. Will see what they say in the coming month.
What's your hearing like? I take it it's not a perfect 0 dB throughout the hearing range, if you worked in such establishments as clubs and pubs?
I had a very sharp 30 dB drop at 6000 Hz on my first ever audiogram. This was done several months after the acoustic trauma. Two months later, I did a new test and it showed 15 dB drop at 6000 Hz. It was around that time I started noticing a tonal tinnitus. Now I can hear twice as good?! So good that I can hear things that are not there.
Several months have passed since the second audiogram. Who knows... maybe if I did a new test now I would get a perfect score. Perfect hearing... or not. The point is, hearing does get better with time, as does tinnitus. Or does it really?...
The RHI imaging product "InView" is designed to assess human inner ear function. RHI is in the process of identifying KOLs and licensing opportunities.
That's interesting! How is your hearing above 8 kHz then? How far into the high frequency range can you hear? I stop hearing at about 13 kHz.It's a perfect 0db throughout the hearing range (well up to 8khz) according to my audiogram. Funnily enough hearing can recover and occasionally tinnitus too, hope you keep us posted Samir!
Agreed! Hence my question to Paul above, about his upper limit. Tinnitus might begin to develop right after you lose your 15 kHz to 18 kHz range of the sensors.Why is it that so few of us have an audiogram in the lower field only(250-8000 Hz)
That may be interesting regarding HL.
But regarding T and H I think the higher end of our hearing field(8000-16000 Hz) is much more relevant.
Which manufacturers have hearing aids that amplify up to 20,000 Hz? I am currently trying one by Widex that only amplifies up to 1ok.Meanwhile, hearing aids are now digital. And! They can amplify sounds well beyond 8000 Hz! And! They can now use advanced math and physics to make you hear things you are normally not capable of. For example, if your hearing ends at 6000 Hz, the devices can still pick up everything from 6000 Hz up to 20000 Hz and manipulate the incoming signals so that you can hear it all with your limited cochlea in the range 20 - 6000 Hz. Plus!
Not being at 0 decibels in that range is normal, even in our 20s, yet not everyone develops tinnitus. Or do you mean a sudden, significant loss. As in one day you can hear 15kHz at 30 decibels but an acoustic trauma suddenly pushes it to 70 decibels?Tinnitus might begin to develop right after you lose your 15 kHz to 18 kHz range of the sensors
I may have jumped to conclusion. I know I read some article about this several months ago now. It discussed the different technical aspects of hearing aids, such as what frequencies they can amplify and how they can compress frequencies. They may not be able to amplify beyond 10000 Hz. But they can compress them and make these high frequencies audible to the ear.Which manufacturers have hearing aids that amplify up to 20,000 Hz? I am currently trying one by Widex that only amplifies up to 1ok.
Presbycusis, yes.Frequencies above 8,000 decline rather quickly as we age but that is not unusual. Hearing 16k at around 60 decibels is actually considered fairly normal for the 30-40 age range.
I was thinking about progressive loss as part of the aging process, and how that may or may not lead to tinnitus. But here is what I struggle with! How do you tell apart hearing decline caused by natural degeneration from that caused by acoustic trauma? Insult to the ears doesn't have to be a significant one time event. It can be the result of a number of small insults that all add up to a large total.Not being at 0 decibels in that range is normal, even in our 20s, yet not everyone develops tinnitus. Or do you mean a sudden, significant loss. As in one day you can hear 15kHz at 30 decibels but an acoustic trauma suddenly pushes it to 70 decibels?
How do you know what that average is?I have had a higher frequency hearing test. My hearing above 15k is slightly above average for my age; my loss in one ear is between 6k and 12k.
I was thinking about progressive loss as part of the aging process,
All things that scientists cannot explain is part of the aging process!That hearing loss is part of the aging process certainly is conventional wisdom, but it may not be true
This is really interesting. Thanks for posting. So it seems like pretty much everyone should end up with tinnitus by age 50 to 60. I think it only takes an event with high anxiety/grief/stress to turn it on. It could very well explain why some people get it and some people don't. At 50 to 60, everyone could get it if exposed to the right conditions. There is always lots of anxiety to go around in this world.@Samir
The audiology center where I got my very high frequency scan has its own statistics over hundreds or thousands of tests. See the screenshot.
There is an interesting article on the "The Hearing Journal" (free iPad app and journal) from March 2017: "Benefits of extended high-frequency audiometry for everyone", David Moore et al. I recommend it to everyone with curiosity about the very high frequencies. It is simple and very informative.
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