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Lenire can NEVER make a THI of 75 to a THI of 15-20. If Tom Blomfield really did have a THI of 75, he probably wouldn't have been able to work for three years and would have sunk into depression. (I tested Lenire here in Munich back in 2021; it did nothing, zero.)

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I tried it, but it malfunctioned. I copied it to D:/ and typed in the cmd order, but I got the below error. Can you help?

Haha! Real professionals at work (they've probably never heard of the placebo effect). They state at the end: I could have saved myself four minutes of my life if they had started with this sentence...

I think 95% of Tinnitus Talk members have tinnitus that just can't be ignored. We would be grateful if we were in your situation, where the tinnitus is so slight that it is always noticeable, but can be ignored when distracted.

First: mathematically there is no 11/10. Second: There is no 11/10 if you don't even know where your tinnitus comes from. Third: With SSHL, the tinnitus fluctuates by a maximum of 3-4 points. So you have a maximum tinnitus of 0.5 to a maximum of 4/10. Congratulations, you've only had...

Great, thanks, I'll take advantage of that. If the device helps, you can come to Oktoberfest with us, I live 20 minutes from Munich. You'll get 16 days of food and drinks for free from me. Then you have to place the electrodes of the device on your liver :-)

Please open fire. The clinical trial participants can now share their experiences, right? There must have been a few of us here who took part. Please share your impressions. What does tinnitus spectrum mean?

Do good and talk about it.

Done in 15 minutes.

@linearb, how loud was the sound played on Dr. Shore's device? And is the volume of the sound based on past research (i.e. experimenting changing the volume of the sound and seeing results in animals), or is it just arbitrarily chosen somehow? With Lenire I was able to adjust the volume myself...

You are from Poland, how did you get the device? Can you resell it to me? How else can I get the device?

That's nonsense. I've tested Lenire and I'm an absolute anti-Neuromod nerd. The acoustician looked at my audiogram and apparently made some adjustments to the software. Otherwise there are the same senseless sounds like piano, the sound of the sea, other instruments, etc. Complete nonsense...

If the device works, I'll be the second one here to get a Dr. Shore tattoo. But that's not until my wedding day. I'll tell my wife that I wanted to have her picture taken, but the intern took it on for cost reasons... (I'm trying to regain my sense of humor with the news).

I'm just the skeptic here. There are so many tinnitus studies where the participants give better values at the end, purely for psychological reasons (oh yes, someone wants to help me, I will help them too, this complicated technology, the expensively developed medication must help... etc.). It...

I live only 100 miles from Acousia Therapeutics. I had a phone call with one of the managers about 9 months ago. He told me that I couldn't take part in the study (I'm in my early 40s). The study is for age-related hearing loss. Let's see, tinnitus is somehow genetic in my family, maybe I'll...

Finally a severely affected person like me, who has such bizarre approaches with live crickets. What does your girlfriend say about that? I was in Greece for the first time last year, the crickets were so numerous, loud and persistent for 24 hours that they even drowned out my high tinnitus. I...

Tom Parijs wrote 2 weeks earlier: Any update, Tom?

I fly with you. We'll fly back to Munich, then we'll celebrate at the Oktoberfest, you're invited to my place.

Always the same. In the end, study participants give slightly better values, although the whole thing has no effect. Simply a courtesy to the provider, purely a psychological effect. The more complicated the application and the more individually tailored to you, the better values you give. This...

Inject me with the OTO-313 stuff. It doesn't need 158 participants who are undecided, it only needs me. I am a classic tinnitus sufferer (noise trauma). I have massive, constant tinnitus 24/7, it shivers left, right, 3D everywhere. Any minimal improvement I would attribute to OTO-313. Cost of...

I thought I was so close to relief from my behemoth. I could probably have participated in a Phase 3. Now it's becoming increasingly clear to me that nothing will help us ever, the interaction of hearing / nerves / brain is probably just too complex to be able to be helped by any remedies. I've...

My tinnitus also has a stable direction. It's definitely getting worse every year.

I went to Max Bauer, Neues Hoeren Munich and bought the device. I gave it back after 6 weeks, it helped zero. I got a 66% refund. He once had a video with a guest from the US who flew over and bought the device directly from him. So you don't need a clinic, etc. I think the individual attitude...

Exact Instruction: Fasting eliminates tinnitus. Pay me a special price of $350 instead of $3,500 for this instruction.

Not exactly. Rather: if your study doctor explains to you after waking up from the new heart surgery procedure that has just been carried out - which, according to studies, has helped 95% of all participants so far - and is very complex and, above all, more expensive (which you get for free as...

A tinnitus study without a placebo group is the most pointless thing there is. If the device didn't work, you end up choosing a bit better values because you feel guilty towards the person who wants to help you. Then it's an incredibly expensive device, so you choose better values because...

Tinnitus patients are very susceptible to placebo effect in clinical studies. Hamsti, didn't we already have a private discussion about ForgTin?

I intended to take part in the study. I phoned one of the company owners, described my situation, severe hearing loss on the left, slight hearing loss on the right, massive tinnitus on both sides, I'm in my early 40s. However, they only offer one study for age-related hearing loss, so I cannot...

@PeterPan, I have a mobile stereo recorder Zoom H4N with simultaneous stereo headphone output. So I just turn the headphones left / right and let them half open over my ears so I get the ambient sounds 50/50.

What do you mean exactly? Do you want me to answer: rotate the headphones 180 degrees?

I tested it for several hours (I'm unable to work because of tinnitus and I have time), in different volumes, more surroundings, less surroundings, different sounds. What a surprise: It has zero effect on tinnitus (I have classic chronic tinnitus).

Well, actually it shouldn't be that hard to test. I have a mobile stereo recorder that you can connect headphones to. I'll set it up in the garden and then simply swap on the headphones, which allow enough outside noise to pass through (no over-ear headphones), left and right. Let's see what...

I don't get it. If I swap left and right, then the headphones also pick up the ambient noise on the left and right, how fully can you swap that?

What does the device look like?

Well, finally.

Haha, I would also have to lie to take part in the study because my depression is severely severe, so I would have to lie that I only have moderate depression. I would not falsify the results. Haha, my psychotherapist (actually quite a good one) also says I should downplay the stressful things...

Hey, before I get any hopes up in Germany, with a possible game changer coming out to those of you in the USA. How much later will the device be available in Europe (as long as we are not conquered by Putin haha)? Can I buy it from someone here (for triple the price)? I will try and pay for...

Low starting values allow much more improvement through habituation. In addition, all that is hardly meaningful without a placebo group. There are purely psychological effects of giving better values at the end of the study because you think hey someone wanted to help me, I'll help them too.

Only 60 participants. XEN1101 for Major Depressive Disorder Tinnitus Talk members will unlikely be there due to the only two locations.

Me the same. My bad days are discouraging. It only helps that every now and then I have a better day. This is my new rest. I wish you luck.

Phase 2 was alsy in Germany. But they rejected me (they required unilateral tinnitus, onset less than a year ago), even though I promised them all my BioNTech stock profits, to take me in :-)

Hi there, you also reported a scam product (Liam Boehm). I tried the ForgTin, it's really expensive (449 Euros), absolutely useless product, definitely a scam. www.forgtin.com (google: "pansatori gmbh" for reviews) Now the company owner, Klaus Grübl, has lots of fake google 5 stars reviews...

Hi there (Liam Boehm), you also reported a scam product. I tried the ForgTin, it's really expensive (449 euros), absolutely useless product, definitely a scam. www.forgtin.com (google: pansatori gmbh for reviews) Now the company owner, Klaus Grübl, has lots of fake google reviews written. Can...

Hi there (Liam Boehm), you also reported a scam product. I tried the ForgTin, it's really expensive (449 euros), absolutely useless product, definitely a scam. www.forgtin.com (google: pansatori gmbh for reviews) Now the company owner, Klaus Grübl, has lots of fake google reviews written. Can...

Hi there, you also reported a scam product. I tried the ForgTin, it's really expensive (449 euros), absolutely useless product, definitely a scam. www.forgtin.com (google: pansatori gmbh for reviews) Now the company owner, Klaus Grübl, has lots of fake google reviews written. Can you help him...

Stop with such a nonsense device. There won't be a placebo group in the study, so a study is pretty much worthless. It will never, ever help people with classic severe tinnitus. If it would only help me minimally, I would eat a broom in the presence of the company founder.

No.

Is it always the case that you won't find out whether you had the placebo or the drug?

I would do it. I am unable to work, quit my job. I have money left over for a few years from my stock shit. My life consists almost entirely of sleeping very badly and wearing headphones all day if possible, sitting at the PC to partially mask my shitty noises and distract myself from all of...

Both studies are simply useless, reasons: - Purely psychological effects: a) Study participants who know that they are using an expensive device think that it must have a use. And if you don't see any improvement, just enter 10 THI points better. b) Study participants tend to mark better...

If there isn't a serious medical solution for tinnitus in the foreseeable future, I only have three options. 1. I will give in to how the thread is titled here. 2. I'll put myself in a coma until there's a miracle cure maybe 10 years from now. 3 . I lose everything I love, my work, my love...

I don't mean the process itself of piercing the eardrum, but having an injection that you don't know exactly, a process that would have to hit exactly the right area in the ear, something that we don't know the long-term effects of. I think only grade 3 and 4 (out of 4) patients would dare to do...

So here comes the stock market guru Bob again. So if Otonomy succeeds, the stock could potentially triple at most. The risk of everything going wrong is immensely higher. As an example, let me mention the BioNTech share. When no one suspected that they were dealing with a pandemic and making...

I've seen the picture of the device with the earbud and the two electrodes (cheek / neck). Can someone briefly explain how the process works? What sounds are played, where exactly are the electrodes attached? What program do the electrodes play? (TENS, EMS, massage?) (I returned Neuromod's...

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You can only read the report after logging in. You have to be a member. I am of course, so it is here in German in order to minimize too many back-translation errors from the Google-translated English into your native language:

So I am a native German speaker, and I also know the website tinnitusheilen.de and have rejected their book and cross-selling products for various reasons. Lenire's assessment is the best I've heard so far (you know, I've also tested Lenire and dismiss it as nothing but an MP3 player that...

I'm sorry to say it so honestly. I am a musician, I am familiar with audio editing and frequencies etc. and I returned the device after 6 weeks with no effect. Total nonsense if your audiologist tries to make you believe that the device is individually tailored to you. They are always the same...

Are you sure, that Lenire did that magic or did you just adapt, habituate etc. :D