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Hello it's been a long time since ive been posting on here. Your dad's experience is identical to mine! I've searched for a long time but not seen someone describe it as precisely as you have, and you dont even have the condition, thank you for caring! The real issue as your Dad and you know...

I am the member who tried the experimental procedure for Menieres to try to fix my Cochlear Hydrops, a very depressing experience which did NOT help my cochlear hydrops. Hi lolkas, yeah it didn't work man. I'm still stuggling just like I was before. Hope you doing well brother.

Alue do you also hear vibrating noises from loud music like him? Im just saying if your T is bad, and I believe yours is, and you still haven't habituated, it's probably more than just the whole loud music bit.

Darn. I thought I nailed it! ?

Sorry Foncky, I just thought funky sounded better. How is it possible that permanent damage creates a changing noise? Perhaps you have cochlear hydrops (no not meneiers). How can hurting your ears in the way they were meant to be used, listening to sounds, be worse than straight bacterial...

If you have to ask then your's is central brain, the common kind, caused by the brain adapting to minor damage from too loud noises. LUCKY YOU! No matter what loud music can only do minor damage, now virus, bacteria fungus, autoimmune attacks, can truly destroy the not only the hair cells but...

I am FUNKY. As you learn more you will understand. Central is brain. Do you hear a noise in one ear but not the other, it's tonal, well that can't be in your brain. That's in your ear. tinnitustalk.com oh will we ever remove ourselves from ignorance. It's depressing the lack of knowledge...

I don't call that a miracle.

I didn't say it was unreachable. I said it was more complicated than getting to his EYES. LOLipop.

Yeah like he said, as is 100,000 years from now.. Miraculous to happen next year? Yes.

what would you like me to explain about them?

The cochlea is the size of a fingernail lodged deep in your skull, oh it's also wrapped in bone, a bony structure called the cochlea. If you think were going to get in there and find a cure you really must be having a miraculous life! Miracles, I don't believe in em.

Just remember if it's bilateral it's in your brain, if it's unilateral you have a physical issue in your ear or blood vessels. Both Ears is permanent and it's also not that bad (compared to fluctuating Menieres type T). Bilateral? It's in your brain, get on with life. Unilateral? Time to see...

NO your eyes are right there on your face, I CAN SEE THEM, your inner ear? It's the size of a fingernail lodged deep in your skull, wrapped in a bony cochlear, when you look at the Cochlea inside your ears your first thought will be "there's no chance of getting in there ever, like ever."

That's fine, ignorance is bliss, trust your ENT that they know more than you about T. You need a referral to see the otologist, that is the one thing your ENT is good for, but you have to have catastrophic T so you probably don't qualify since your T isn't so bad.

Yeah and you also have mild hydrops from the damage with resulting ion imbalance. But your T isn't too bad so why are you on here?

Does the HUM literally "HUM" does it change, even slightly? Then it's probably a venous hum or heart murmur or blood flow issue that can be resolved when you release the tension. I'm sorry if I am wrong.

Hearing is 10 times more complicated! Eyes are just light coming in. Plus when you go blind your eyes don't start making noises!

Your asking me to solve the HOLY GRAIL of hearing loss and TINNTUS, it's so much more complicated than you can imagine! I'm still learning here! IF I HAD THE ANSWERS I WOULDN'T BE HERE ID BE GETTING MONEY SITTING ON THE BEACH BANGING MY GIRL. If I had the answers I'd be charging you buddy :) :) :)

Um excuse me? Trusting your ENT? You just lost half your credibility! You should trust your Otologist but I'm sure you don't know what an otologist is! If you'd like to have testing to actually KNOW WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR EARS, well ignorance is bliss, right? perhaps you'd like to have your...

It not ears, but it is eyes, and it likely the eyes and ears are innervated together because episodes of vertigo also include nystagmus (an inner ear problem causing eye problems). Perhaps the cells used to cure blindness will be the same as the cells used to cure hearing loss and tinnitus. We...

Tell me does this logic make sense?: so I cut off my hand and it hurt! but when I went to my hand doctor and showed him he said "SORRY IAN THERE"S NOTHING I CAN DO, YOU SEE THE PAIN IS IN YOUR BRAIN! IM NOT A BRAIN DOCTOR I CANT HELP YOU WITH YOUR CUT OFF HAND" It doesn't make sense does it...

Oh you got it! you said that earplugs change your T. If your T was from damaged hair cells, your T would go up with earplugs. No doubt about it right? your T should go up. AHAH MOMENT but what if it's not a permanently damaged hair cell what if the increased pressure from endolymph fluid...

Yes that's sums it up pretty well, however everyone experiences hydrops (not menieres), but if you would like MENIERES I can tell you how! First become very unhealthy in diet, malnourished and underfed, then add the stress of backbreaking physical labor, toss in black mold daily nightly...

YOU SEE WHAT IMPROPER BALANCE OF ENDOLYMPH FLUID CAN DO?? DEGENERATE YOUR EARS, THE HAIR CELLS ARE NOT BENT FROM LOUD NOISES THEY ARE DEGERATING FROM THE TOXIC FLUID THEY ARE BATHING IN AND THE INCREASED PRESSURE BEING PLACED ON THEM. 1.) Correct the imbalance, 2.) regenerate the hair cells 3.)...

Oh your so close again! Imagine this image - THE TREE IS NOT BROKEN FROM LOUD NOISES. THE TREE IS BENDING BECAUSE ITS STUCK IN A RIVER. Consider this - your hair cells are not broken but are bending under the force of endolymph fluid which is slightly increased due to non-homeostatic dynamic...

Are you sure that loud noises did that? No you can't be, consider perhaps that the hairs cells are damaged due to toxic endolymph fluid degenerating the hair cells :0 rather than loud noises. damage to your ear from music is the lamest kind of tinnitus, i'm sorry but hurting your ears in the...

Ahh you are so close! it's not the the hairs are bent from a loud noise producing tinnitus, they are bent because of the increased pressure from endolymph fluid and resulting ion imbalance, the higher the pressure (due to non-homeostatic pressure and ion balance) causes the hair cells to bend...

So its NOT a cure for ears, but they are on the "Brink" of a cure for blindness, then everyone can focus on ears next. The eye and the ear may also be innervated as people with vertigo experience nystagmus (an inner ear disorder causing vision problems). So perhaps and ear cure is not too...

That is exiting, let me know when that happens.

I have to say I'm doing better.

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Like a said above I've noticed a somewhat miraculous change as the really bad noise in my right ear of keys jingling and birds chirping went away after going in for my final shot! Now I have pretty much normal tinnitus in both ears except for some slight beeping that literally goes from right...

After going in for my final shot three weeks ago I've noticed the really bad noise in my right ear has completely gone away. I made a lot of lifestyle changes started drinking a lot of water started to try and sleep move back in with my parents to get sleep and all of a sudden the noise got...

Unfortunately tinnitus is not even a real thing - there are noises that come from spine injuries there's noises that come from ear injuries there a noises that come from brain injuries there's noises that come from cochlear hydrops and menieres desease and perelymph fistulas and superior canal...

See above. What came out of it was a bunch of narrow minded nuerologist thought they cured tinnitus lol

But what about tinnitus that comes from cochlear hydrops, lol we all know that's not in the brain it's clearly a phenomenon of the ears. Google it and answer me that..

Yes it is truely another world inside the ear, yes it's truly complex, yes it will baffle you, yes if we understand the ear we have truely entered into a new world of knowledge, like it will be bigger than Elvis..

The insight is that your hair cells might not be damaged, perhaps it's simply a degraded ion balance, at homeostasis your ion balance is actually upset causing a "jingling/ringing/beeping in your ears" some call this "tinnitus" and yes if this is the case then your "tinnitus" is REVERSIBLE. That...

Restore the ion balance, reduce the tinnitus. It's all about water and salt to achieve balance.

No matter how healthy the hair cells, they'll still send your brain a tinnitus signal if they are bathing in endolymph with a degenerated ion balance. You can shoot your hair cells with stem cell all day and not find relief!

Are you sure that's from loud noises and not hydrops induced from poor ion balance?

lol it's that noise you call tinnitus and yes it's REVERSIBLE / correctable. Probably through diet and sleep.

What if instead of sound pressure you substitute ion balance, an ion balance that is out of homeostasis would trigger tinnitus BUT it wouldn't mean permanent hair cell damage IN OTHER WORDS Tinnitus from poor ion balance causes a REVERSIBLE tinnitus.

Yeah like 30 years ago it was just and idea and look at us now, now it's a...um... a concept yes we truely are on the brink of something dare I say magical and potentially orgasmic!

It's called cochlear hydrops, not menieres, but cochlear hydrops without vertigo that's what you both have

You have hydrops

absolutely incredible if what I glossed over here is real, then it's the most profound thing I've ever read!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereocilia_(inner_ear) Tinnitus just got a whole lot more complicated. I just realized I've spent days weeks months obsessing over an ignorant idea that my hair cells are damaged when in all likely hood that's not the case!!! This is both a great realization...

I hear the Morse code machine too, yes I hear hissing and ringing too. It's cochlear hydrops.

Kevin you likely have cochlear hydrops, not menieres desease but cochlear hydrops. There is fluid in your ears that fluid is under pressure if the pressure isn't right the fluid presses on the hair cells causing you to hear literally insane sounds that you never thought were possible. This...

Hello, thank you for your post!!!! I have this beeping two tone tinnitus also!! I have it only in my right ear, it sounds like a metallic beep that sometimes vibrates or stops completely. It hits me exactly as you said, literally it hits me and is new everytime so I can never habituate!! Always...

I have a noise exactly like a wet finger rubs on a glass cup and it makes a chiming humm sound. Sounds exactly like that. I just noticed it today because I was able to accept the "keys jingling" and the "airplane" in my left ear, after finally accepting them now I hear this "chiming humm"...

Drink a gallon of water per day for 7 days. Get good clean water, filter it if you have to. Seriously drinking a gallon of water per day cured me. And YES I heard a loud bird chirping in my right ear my hearing was muffled in my left ear. Muffled hearing and the feeling of ear fullness are...

Yeah my otologist actually cares about my tinnitus, I'm lucky, but I'm also persistent, and my tinnitus was extremely bad, bird noises and crickets and an ocean, it wasn't until my ENT has performed surgery that didn't help my T that she referred me to an otologist, before that I never had heard...

Um yeah we're talking Cochlear Hydrops.. which is distinctly different from full blown Menieres desease. Perhaps your confused? Cochlear hydrops is the Tinnitus of menieres without the vertigo of menieres, many people hear ringing from hydrops (it happens with unhealthy diet, like how 80% of...

What could possibly be wooshing besides water? How could your tinnitus possibly get louder and softer without a similarly fluctuating source. It's the water pressure and ear osmolality. If you simply had fried your hair cells your tinnitus would be static and unchanging! But it does change...

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Your hair cells aren't damaged, they are irritated by increased pressure from your ear osmolality. Once you relieve the pressure then your hair cells will stop sending tinnitus sounds and you'll be cured. In fact cochlear hydrops without vertigo is likely the cause of your tinnitus. An...

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