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@Michael Leigh I'd like to ask you one last question regarding this the topic. As you said the first time you had T it was accompanied by severe hyperacuis. Did you experienced prolonged (lasting until sleep) increase of your Tinnitus volume as an effect of moderate noise exposure or was it just...

I agree. I experience both things - H and Reactive Tinnitus (in form of "winding-up" effect) In my case worsening of T lasts more than several hours (sometimes several days and sometimes it becomes my new baseline) which puts me in the infamous "Category IV" bracket (you can read about Tinnitus...

And you're doing so since 1994 or did you got some major setback in recent years?

Yes I am aware of the relation. Long before I developed Tinnitus I was considering myself as having poor hearing. Especially in loud environments. I just wasn't aware of the implications. So good audiograms were quite a surprise for me. I was always upset by ENT's enthusiasm. You see, you have...

Thank you for your addition to this thread. There's one thing I am not sure how to interpret. I am somewhat familiar with general conclusions of Kujawa studies as well as Liberman (limited by my language limitations and specific language of the literature). It seems that hearing loss can...

I really want to thank you just like others in this thread for trying. I know I am a hell of an ungrateful advice taker with this "denying anything" attitude of mine. There's one more thing that bothers me and which I can associate with the process of gradual worsening of my condition especially...

@GregCA I guess I will have to ask a neurologist or ENT when I visit one about this whole mri thing. As for perception vs actual volume - You can actually distinguish these two things when you have the second source of sound playing role of minimal level of suppression. At the beginning when my...

yep. Started with 1mg only during bad days but eventually ended with 3mg every day. I am taking them every other day now but I guess they don't work for me anymore. I won't try my luck with higher doses. The thing that worked for me best was sound enrichment but now with my reactivity it's out...

I don't have CBT therapist. I've seen a therapist some month ago and it was nice, friendly talk but it didn't do much good. I've read some CBT literature and identified when I was making the mistake of making generalizations or assumptions. It was at the initial stages. As I mentioned in the...

Mountain biking, computer games, playing guitar, midi controllers and music production stuff, gym, movies (art-house and so-called classics mostly), concerts and music festivals. I used to LOVE to listen to music with headphones (chemical love it proved to be). At the beginning, I thought that...

Ok guys, let's finish this thread with some proactive approach. I plan to visit a shrink to get an AD. Any thoughts on remeron? I made some research on the forum and on the web and it seems relatively safe. I am more concerned about my sleep than overall mood during the day. It's getting harder...

I guess you're getting to me with this post. I often think the same to myself but It's just so hard to adjust to the condition that is so dynamic. I don't know really know what state I'll need to accept eventually. The level that I have now? I am not naive. It will get worse. And that is the...

I am familiar with breathing exercises. I guess they work to some extend. I am doing them when I need them the most - Before the sleep. It helped yesterday for example. But maybe I was just exhausted from lack of sleep previous days. Today it was no success. But thank you!

I don't thrive for the recovery. I would settle for having the comfort of my T staying at the stable level to which I can habituate. Then I would be able to see what adjustments I am forced to make to my life. For now, all the adjustments I've made (and i've made plenty of sacrifices) seem not...

Can I ask kind of a technical question? How did you address sleeping issues? When T was so loud that you were unable to sleep what were you doing?

Like it was my decision to monitor it or not. As I said I have long episodes of not monitoring the T and forgetting about it for the whole weeks. It was the always the permanent increase that brought anxiety. I was making the effort of not monitoring every single time but when you eventually...

@Greg Sacramento Most of my life issues are the effect of Tinnitus. Whats more worries which I had before the condition now I treat as joke comparing to this nightmare. You may have an impression that during this year all I was doing was just complaining and withdrawing from life. That's not...

Yes. I am pursuing this possibility. I am waiting for the visit with surgeon and fixing my bad teeth meanwhile (which as you can guess is another loud experience I need just now :/) I even suggested my last ENT possible problem with ETD. He was absolete. Guess I need to consult someone else. Is...

Several months ago I would agree. I remember after each worsening/new sound etc I was in innitial stage of despiar but after a while I would rationalize to myself that the sound couldn't harm me. "It was loud but not that loud". Even when I was able to hear the Tinnitus above the sounds that...

Yes. Anxiety definitely plays a role now. But after a year I can separate increased perception from increased volume. I'm worried that the stress which can be ototoxic made some more permanent damage during the last few days. I can no longer rationale to myself what is happening to me or find...

That's strange. I had MRI to rule out otosclerosis. That what my entire told me. Anyway, developing sclerosis in both ears within 3 months time? How likely it is? Possibilities of Perilymph fistula diagnosis are quite limited by any imaging studies to my knowledge. And last doctor I saw told...

Yes. I am positive that my condition is the effect of listening to music through earphones. I am sure that I have hidden hearing loss even if my audiograms are showing something different. One can tell if he has problems with discriminate speech in noise. As for my tinnitus characteristics -...

My experience exactly. Since the onset I've lived the life of moderation but ended up with louder/ more reactive tinnitus anyway. @Bill Bauer advocates 1-2 year of withdrawal. If I had listened these sort of advices instead of others maybe I wouldn't ended being sentenced to isolation for the...

@GregCA Audiogram - fine Oae - fine MRI - fine Blood pressure - fine Thyroid - fine Lyme disease - nope Tympanometry - fine Tried steroid sprays, sudafed, ginkgo, nac, magnesium, Turmeric, apple cider vinegar, 5htp, vinpocetine, magnolia balm, melatonin, inhalation, otovent, candida diet...

Yep. I wish I had known that before

Tonight It's worse than yesterday, yesterday it was worse than week ago, week ago it was worse than month ago and so on... New sounds, new volume, increased reaction, decreased sound tolerance. Since yesterday I feel pain in both ears. And it's not hyperacusis pain. I can touch my left ear...

I don't quite understand. You mean that even if we assume that the level of sound reaching the cochlea will be the same in both cases the use of bone conduction headphones is still riskier than wng? In other words: If I'll be able to set the volume of the sound generated by bone conduction...

@Michael Leigh @GregCA I've checked specs and they stated frequency response 20-20000Hz. I can hear hardly up to 16000. Actually, the high-frequency noise bothers me the most so probably I will try some sounds that are lower frequency wise. As I read the TRT book It was stated that sound...

So that would mean that the same white noise recording played on bone conduction headphones would lack some of the high frequency sound? Have you tried them? I initially thought that's a good idea because I would have more control over the type of sound and the volume vs wngs and on top of that...

Thanks for response:) That's the problem - the lowest possible setting is already too loud for me. And it completely masks my tinnitus which is more of a broadband thing rather than tonal sound (maybe except my "brand new" tonal sound acquired few weeks ago). Moreover while wearing them after...

Did anyone here try to use bone conduction headphones as white noise generators? A few months ago I got WNGs from NHS as a mean to improve my tinnitus and hyperacusis but even at the lowest level they irritate my ears and after a week of using them for 1-2 hours per day my condition got worse...

Do you know the exact model of your siemens maskers? Did it irritated your Tinnitus at the beginning? I mean did it make your Tinnitus louder when you were using it let's say in first several days, weeks or not? Have you worn it for whole days from the start or did you start with 1-2 hours and...

From my own experience, anecdotal evidence on this site and studies regarding hidden hearing loss and synaptopathy of coachella I will say... Yes, it can. TRT assumes that if you have tinnitus the probability for further damage of middle ear and coachella is no higher in your case than in an...

I can't say I'm totally satisfied but thank you regardless:) May I ask You something else? Did you ever have a second thoughts about the cause of reemission of your tinnitus? You mentioned in one of our conversations that it was listening to music with hi-fi system at home but you also mentioned...

Thank you for your effort but as far as I know TRT courses are available for anyone interested. Theoretically and practically You don't need to have any medical or therapeutic background to finish the course and be registered as a trt therapist. So that rises a question: if there's more in the 3...

Let me be a bit skeptical about this statement. Official TRT training lasts... 3 days (source http://www.tinnitus-pjj.com/training.html). Do you know from your own experience if there is some extra knowledge that isn't covered in the TRT handbook or is it just your assumption? Can You elaborate...

Avoiding sound is not the same as protecting from the potentially harmful noise. Some TRT enthusiasts will tell you that you should only protect from sound objectively hazardous (too loud for healthy population). I don't want to argue with that statement but I will tell you that: I got my T...

@Anna V. Totally agree with this statement. In first weeks of my Tinnitus I was experiencing residual inhibition when using white noise or taking shower (temporary decrease in loudness or even disappearance). Unfortunately I was stupid enough to listen to TRT purists - saying that instead of...

I was trying to make adjustments all the time. But how am I supposed to know which of them were helpful and which making things worse in long term? There's TRT school saying that I shouldn't overprotect and opposite to avoid any exposure. Both of them somewhat apply to me: in negative way. I...

I've had my bad moments during the year with tinnitus and hyperacusis but never been so close from actually finishing with this madness for good. This is no longer anything remotely similar to "living". How can I habituate to something so fluctuating, reactive and permanently worsening for no...

@Dem, the spike went away eventually but since then I had several other spikes and permanent worsenings. I also got a hyperacusis in that ear after about 2 months. Was it because of the whole Neti pot situation? Hard to say really...

Hi, Eventually it went away. Try not to do any Valsalva anymore... Can you still feel the water inside?

I didn't have a chance to try them yet. But I will. You're sure there is no sound whatsoever even when NC is on? There are several threads on the internet where people are claiming that there is indeed slight sound (like distant wind) generated by NC. And there's also a test when they even...

According to several websites and my experience (I tried two different models so far) noise-canceling module in these headphones are producing some soft noise by themselves and on top of that this noise cancellation is not perfect (there is some sound reaching ears) so at least for me, the lack...

I guess I'll have to check them out. I haven't tried any other Bluetooth headphones, I had this impression of mandatory bluetooth noise after noticing it in two different units. Maybe it's characteristic to this specific model, I don't know. I've also read the comparison table on rtings.com...

@Bill Bauer @GregCA So I've tried a new pair of the same model and there's still this low level static/humming sound (a bit like white noise). I ordered another, higher model (1000X) from Amazon to see if this is something common for Bluetooth headphones or just for the sony 100abn. I guess all...

I am about to have a flight in few days so I bought online a pair of used noise canceling headphones (sony mdr 100abn) and noticed that they produce low-level static noise regardless whether noise canceling is switched on or off. Is it normal or did I just get a faulty unit? They work quite...

Hi! How was your flight? I am about to have long distance travel and started wondering should I take the risk (2,5h flight) or go with a Bus and spend 20h on the road.

Originally it was my response to another post but I thought the whole idea may "deserve" own thread. Probably some of you using earplugs noticed very annoying occlusion effect when you speak, eat (for me even my own footsteps seem to be too loud when I wear earplugs) There seems to be a...

@Zinnia There seems to be a solution for occlusion effect vs hearing protection dilemma but rather an expensive one: https://asiustechnologies.com/collections/all Basically, you need one of ADEL module, which works like "secondary" eardrum and then put it into compatible earplugs or earphones...

@Sen Did you have your MRI already or still waiting. To give you some reassurance: I have had MRI done twice this year and in both cases it didn't bring any setbacks or worsening of tinnitus. By default, you are equipped with earplugs and on one occasion they gave me also ear muffs. I have...

Great to hear that! How was the therapy administered in your case? Did you have some sort of injections? Did it involve several sessions? Thanks

@Jantine Same here. Moving my jaw forward, backward, sideways, pressing palate with a tongue, yawning results increasing both pitch and volume of my T. In addition, after releasing pressure this initial high pitch sound goes away immediately but there's an additional hissing sound slowly...

That's the problem... I was evaluated by several ENT's. A week ago I've had a follow-up visit and although I said about new symptoms (new sounds, increased sensitivity, fleeting tinnitus several times a day), I was told that these are normal manifestations of T and there's nothing to be done...

Hi. It seems that I acquired something similar to what you described. Did it cease eventually in your case?

A few days ago accidentally I've noticed a strange thing. Every time I stick my finger into right ear canal and pull it suddenly I experience strange sensation: something out there (eardrum?) is moving for a fraction of second and there's a sound like wind hitting a foresail or bedsheet...

Hi. I just found the same study. Did you try the aspirin eventually? If yes, have you noticed any results?

I see. Your onset of T... was it after one specific episode of trauma or prolonged exposure? Did you get H from the start or after some time? I guess now you're using hearing protection all the time. Do you see any progress regarding T volume or H?

Understood. Thank you for the answer. I think that this is quite alarming. Don't You think that 70db doesn't seem to be that loud objectively? I remember You advised against using protection around normal everyday sounds. Considering 70db as harmful would indicate that one should use protection...

Would You clarify on this statement? You wrote that recurrence of your Tinnitus was due to listening to music, that wasn't turned up loud. "Not loud" meaning what? Could you tell how loud was it more or less? More than 85Db? Thank you!