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I don't think I'd take Quercetin. Could be ototoxic for anyone asking. There are better alternatives. Check the ATA website for medication list for anything ototoxic.

@BrStan@, I found the same two studies and was wondering the same thing. It says significant protection, but that doesn't tell you how much. Also dissection microscopy may not be as sensitive as tinnitus is in a human. Another possibility is that Quercetin is ototoxic in vitro but not in vivo...

@Lane Well, I am aware of that. Though I've heard that HCQ + Zinc is still more effective. However, I've also heard that there were people in some countries which were given given 10x regular doses of it because the doctors confused it with another medicine, which is just stupid. A lot died from...

@Mr. Cartman Woah, where have you been? I don't even log in here but once a year or so at random. I'm planning on trying anti-parasite medication soon. I think it could be related to medically unexplained symptoms of muscle pain, brain fog, fatigue, tinnitus, neuropathy and digestion problems...

@Lane, I'm very happy to see you here. Yes, I am very familiar with Jennifer and Jeff and have been following them very closely for a while. Jeff also did a podcast interview recently where he shared that he discovered he had tethered cord after doing his CCI/AAI surgery. The symptoms he had as...

I'm talking about a spinal CSF leak not a cranial CSF leak, which is the Cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) rhinorrhea. However, there is another condition which has very similar conditions to a spinal CSF leak and that is Cranio Cervical Instability and I this is more likely perhaps if severe headaches...

Actually, I think a Cerebrospinal Fluid Leak is more likely the cause than an aneurysm. I kind of forgot about the CSF leak, which I learned about earlier. However, they probably should have tested me for aneurysm years ago too given there is some similarity.

@Codaz I've been trying to contact him for a long time. He seems to be out of contact. I have no idea what happened to him. I seem to remember your name as well. I rarely come here but about once a year at most I think. I think I found out what is causing them problem for me. It is a bit...

I found another interesting thing today. It occured to me to search to see if Nickel interferes with Acetylcholine because I know of its role in muscles and trigger points. It looks like there is some relation to nickel : "NICKEL AND CALCIUM IONS MODIFY THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE ACETYLCHOLINE...

@Mr. Cartman and others. I'm going to give a quick update. Two things. 1. I saw a few videos by random a few minutes ago showing this unusual technique people are saying they are using on the back of the neck for tinnitus. 2. About me. I recently had my stainless steel fixed retainer...

@locoyeti From what I believe after many years I would not suggest any TMJ specialists for jaw muscle pain. I would suggest if anything you go to a facial pain clinic and determine if it is truly TMJ related and they look at the whole picture. There is such a clinic at University of Maryland...

@Mr. Cartman , Everyone. Well, I got the results back from my ultrasound of all organs and also the blood results for gallbladder inflamation. They were all negative. They did find a very small polyp of just a few mm on the gallbladder, but said it was nothing to worry about unless I get...

@Mr. Cartman and everyone, here is another one that talks about the pain in the areas we are experiencing. I have a sneaky suspicion my ultrasound will show nothing in the gallbladder or any other organs. That has always been my problem. I think I may also have gotten the scan years ago too...

Here is another video. This video also mentions peanut butter causing gallbladder problems. That is very interesting because all this pain started with pain in my right neck with it feeling stiff all the time over 10 years ago. I was eating peanut butter sandwiches multiple times a day at the...

@canyonero It is funny you say that because often when my blepharitis starts it always starts in the left eye. It may be that the left eye is more often affected first due to some weakness, or it could just be a coincidence that both of us haev the left eye more effected. To your point about...

@Mr. Cartman Ok, I'm really thinking the gallbladder or something similar is causing these right side symptoms now. Also, have any of you experienced problems with dry eyes? That is a symptom of gallbladder problems. Also, do any of you remember eating a lot of peanut butter when this pain in...

@canyonero @amandine I have problems with dry eyes (recently itchy as well, but not in the past.) Sites seem to say this is blepheritis. However, there is an interesting possible connection between dry eyes and tinnitus I've just been putting together. Internal organ pain/dysfunction from the...

@Steve I recommend that program reguardless. I'm going to do that and it had nothing to do with muscle imbalance. I just believe it is the best way to grow muscle. Also, the only other modification to the program and technique might be to do only one set or partial of a set enough to stimulate...

@Steve @Mr. Cartman The muscular problem and the myofascial pain syndrome in the shoulders, back, neck abdoman may be cause by a muscle imbalance. I've been studying strength training and I was planning to start doing barbell training like the Starting Strength by Mark Riptoe program. It is...

@Mr. Cartman I think I figured out a good technique for the SCM as well. The trick is to find that spot toward the top and turn your head to the opposite side. Now the bone should be underneath the SCM part you need to access. Now you can press on it. Pinching with the thumb will not work...

@Mr. Cartman I've been using the "bodybackbuddy" tool I bought within the last year a lot in the recent days. I'm practicing every day. I highly suggest you get this tool. It is better than the old one I got years ago which is the back knobber 1 or 2. I use the larger side with the tip pointing...

@ryand I would suggest a few things: -Stop the caffeine since it causes the muscle tention to increase. When I drank it it would start to cause pain/more pain -In general garlic is a poison I've learned a really shouldn't be eaten, onions are too. Other sulfur vegetables aren't a poison, but...

@Mike34 It is interesting you talk about water sensations. I've had a lot of sensations which seem to be similar to nerve or microvascular dynsfunction. I've had these cold wet water sensations for over 10 year now. Ten years ago I just had a neck stiffness and felt like cold wet water was...

I suggest not trying these treatments. I paid over 10k for one to see what would happen and backed out before it was permanent. That was just for the splints, not moving the teeth. I don't think these are the solutions and they give you a totally different bite that is more forward with a lot of...

@Mr. Cartman I found this today: https://www.stoptheclot.org/pain-neck-almost-killed-dan-jensens-blood-clot-story.htm That pain in my neck on the right side in many ways seems to be coming from the jugular vein, or from behind it. I can't tell. I should mention this to a primary care physician...

@Codaz I remember your name from this thread going back a while, but I had no idea you were in so much pain or this was still as much of an issue for you. I'm relatively stable and certainly not in a lot of pain. I was in a lot of pain years before I joined the forum, but the major pain subsided...

@Mr. Cartman Something interesting happened last night. I didn't sleep well because I woke up in the middle of the night and couldn't get back to sleep until after sun rise. However, when I woke up I noticed that the muscles inside the under part of my jaw (likely the anterior digastric...

@Mr. Cartman There is one reason the digastric can be framed up that I know of. After I did a search for those videos I searched for another term and found a PDF paper. I'm not saying this is the reason, but it mentioned that the digastric assists other muscles like maybe I remember it saying...

@Mr. Cartman @Codaz Recently I've been paying more attention to the pain in the muscle inside the bottom of my jaw. Years ago when the pain started this muscle hurt a lot more. This isn't the first time I've thought about the digastric muscle anterior belly and digastric muscle posterior belly...

@Mr. Cartman and others, it has been a while since I've posted anything. Recently I've been focusing on trigger points in what I believe are my abdominal muscles. I've been aware of problems in this area for years. My bad TMJ side is my right side which is the side with the louder tinnitus as...

@Bryanw511 Hi. I haven't been active here in a long time. I will say that tinnitus isn't a focus for what is going on in my life. It was helpful to connect with other people knowing I wasn't alone. I found people with tinnitus from many causes. Some seemed to be similar cause to mine with...

@Codaz, do you have any lower back pain? I do, especially on the right side, which is the same side my tinnitus is on and the side of my jaw muscles that normally hurt, among others. I believe the superficial spinal muscles are sending that dysfunction up there. You can feel them in the mound...

I've been in contact with Ceres Nanoscience and they have informed by that they believe by December 2016 they should have the antigen panel test for Bartonella and Babessia available. It will probably have Borrelia as well, though I've already used the first version of this test and tested...

@Codaz You have to keep in mind that Bartonella causing cat scratch disease is just one manifestation of one type of bartonella in a type of person. You can get DNA and antibody testing. I think I'll try the DNA test, but most doctor's won't order a test from any lab except labcorp or quest. If...

I'm going to test for the genus Bartonella next: http://www.galaxydx.com/web/bartonella-epcr/ After that I'll probably move on to the genus Babesia or Mycoplasma (maybe).

What are you asking us that you should try?

My ospA test just came back and it was negative.

Thought I'd post this list of symptoms for neuro-borreliosis: http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/diseases/facts/lymedisease.htm The symptoms often begin with back pain, typically between the shoulder blades and in the neck like a slipped disc. The pain worsens at night. Distorted feelings around...

I already paid for the test. I have to retake it though because the results were equivocal. It is a urine test so I should have taken it first thing in the morning for more concentrated results. They didn't tell me that. Instead I chugged a ton of water and gave a sample more than twice the...

Because the health department isn't really interested in innovating effective tests for Lyme Disease or other chronic infectious pathogens that could be the cause of many chronic diseases.

You need to take care of your health and it is worth paying for. Once you try something though you don't need to keep doing it forever and drain your money. If something new comes along to investigate maybe check it out, but if it isn't working you should just rest. Thankfully I haven't really...

I went to an orofacial specialist and he did a basic physical exam and said I had trigger points and that was it. He said the only scientific treatment was psychotherapy. I suppose if I wanted to I could go to my primary care practitioner and ask where I should go for the best orofacial clinic...

I don't remember, but I don't think they ever did. I went to multiple ENT's and a neuro-otologist. I was having trouble with nausea, balance, tinnitus, and sharp pain in the ears. It seems to be related to the pain in my neck, temple, jaw and upper back. So, in that sense I may have a muscular...

@Kaelon You should definitely not taken the steroids, but also stay away from the NSAIDS, especially those high doses. It can cause tinnitus, and organ damage. What are your inflammation markers? C-reactive protein and sedimentation rate? Are they elevated? I think there isn't much to do for...

@Codaz While that may make it unlikely, a tick bite is closer to a mosquito bite than a dog bite. People often don't know they have been bitten. The bite can also be from many years ago. The only way to really deal with it is to get tested for all these types of infections and ideally do that...

@Mr. Cartman @Codaz Thought I'd share this with you: http://neurotalk.psychcentral.com/showthread.php?t=21867 " I had FMS, MCS, RLS,TMJ, IC, IBS and "a progressive multi-system neurological disease triggered by post lyme syndrome". Lyme disease... My TMJ turned out to be BABESIOSIS, a tick...

@Mr. Cartman Strange new symptom that has come back. I'm getting a weird itch on the edge of my right rib cage. It is not skin related. It is a nerve or something under the skin. I'm also getting a pain in my back on the same side that is below the shoulder blade. I had this itch many years ago...

@Mr. Cartman The bump feels kind of like a small pea or maybe a little smaller. It is hard to tell. I'm pressing on it, but not really feeling any pain. Not sure how hard to press. It is on the right side and same side where symptoms are worse. I looked into it years ago and decided it was...

@Mr. Cartman The pus thing is very surprising. I wonder if you are actually coming down with conjunctivitis and it is not something else. I'm not sure how you are working the muscles around your eyes and working this pus out. I don't feel anything like that. The only abnormal thing I do feel is...

@Mr. Cartman You have addressed a lot in that post. Are you stretching these orbital muscles by looking in a direction and holding? You can work these trigger points by pressing on the muscles just inside the eye socket as well. The videos I bought showed and talked about that. No doubt likely...

@Mr. Cartman @Codaz The thing is though that if this is caused by bad occlusion we can do this work forever and the muscles will never really react because there is a perpetuating factor.

@Mr. Cartman @Codaz I'm feeling stuff pressing in from of the SCM up high near the corner of the jaw and between that and the earlobe. As far as the eye muscles you mentioned. Those muscles when there are trigger points are said to cause words to jump on the page. For me when I look at...

@Mr. Cartman Funny you mention that because I just stumbled upon a video mentioning a relation between the digastric and lateral pterygoid. Also I'm pressing on the side of my neck and I'm not sure if I'm on the SCM or on the digastric.

@Mr. Cartman @Kaelon @Codaz It has been a while. I have some new stuff to report. I just had my teeth cleaned a week ago and after the cleaning I noticed something very interesting. I was not able to bite down on my teeth, except only make contact with the backs of the top two front teeth ! No...

@Mr. Cartman I just had my teeth cleaned and when I was done I could not bite down on my teeth for a few hours afterward. My jaw would not go back far enough to make contact. The only teeth that would make contact were biting down onto the backs of my two front teeth. I think this was because...

@Mr. Cartman For SCM treatment try pressing instead of pinching the SCM at the very top near the corner of the jaw. Try doing it more forward toward the artery, but not on top of it. You are supposed to be pinching as high as possible on the SCM, but I have found that I can no pinch all the way...

@linearb That may be an exaggeration. However, even if it were the case it would likely not be a problem for the experiment. The important thing is to not preempt the process in any way. If it occurs internally, which it will eventually, that likely will not excessively deplete ACh because this...

Other people seem to think back pain is a mind body syndrome called TMS invented by a Dr. Sarno. TMS also includes TMJ pain as well as unusual neurologic sensations and many things.

I did a google search and found another page saying excessive orgasming depletes the brain of acetacholine which causes back pain. http://goo.gl/EtFum8 As we know excessive ACh is also implicated as the cause of trigger points at the motor end plate. Perhaps could the motor end plate up...