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Not about botox, but then I haven't been researching lately. I seem to remember folks in Facebook groups like the TTTS one or the hyperacusis research one saying they were gonna get botox but I don't think they gave updates. Or in any case they were from myoclonic people, which may or may not...

Furthermore, the middle ear could be setting off a domino effect on the inner ear. And when people say hypermobile stapes or hypermobile tensor tympani or hypermobile stapedius or veli palatini, or tense eardrum and such, they don't know if it's creating a hearing loss or a hearing gain. What...

If we had better descriptions of the patients, more people would do the operations and better information would come from that too. This applies to Hain or Silverstein. Silverstein did his more than fair bit with his seminars and presenting the study at an otology conference, but we can do...

Anyway, saying doctors are cowards is too extreme, saying they're useless bureaucrats would be a better estimate, and that the more pretentious among them who ship the patients off to shrinks and TRT are the creepiest of them all is also accurate. If I were an ear doctor I wouldn't risk my...

There's never been a visible loss of hearing on audiometry, but audiometry tests are lame anyways and don't hit the exact frequencies of my two tinnituses. However, the idea that hearing loss and hyperacusis are linked is probably just a myth Jastreboff concocted together with magical thinking...

Well that depends on what you think your life is worth. I think my life is worth stuff as it is now despite what the vultures have said to me, but I know people for whom their life isn't worth anything and they're willing to be guinea pigs. I have heard good and bad outcomes from this I agree...

P.D. '' Hi Sorry, previous message meant to say ''In addition there are recent reports of sound sensitivity cured through tenotomy by Sismanis before he retired WITHOUT the classical myoclonus proof on the eardrum or a tympanogram'' On and thanks a lot for introducing grommets and for your...

Sorry haven't been on Tinnitus Talk for ages. Looks like a couple of months after that post I had an exchange with him: I said: ''Hi Dr Hain, On your page you introduce the idea of grommets for hyperacusis, saying surprised that they also apply for hyperacusis without perilymph fistula. Over...

That'll fit well next to the theories saying immobility of the stapes was what caused hyperacusis. And next to the papers saying Silverstein surgery increases the sound input into the inner ear, with the other folks at chat-hyperacusis claiming it decreased the sound input. Just so we can all...

What's Liberman done, apart from take the dubious torch of ''hidden hearing loss'' from the TRT gang and try to give it credibility, and find a few fibers in the cochlear that could be pain fibers? ''Hidden hearing loss'' was a fail from the TRT gang that they resorted to once it was...

Some of us who have been ''wasting time on forums over the years'' like Rob (and his clowns at chat-h) says, have noticed that both whether it's vibratory or not, whether you feel it in the ear or elsewhere, and whether you have it in a radical state and for the quietest of sounds like I do, or...

So I have baseline high and low freq tinnitus in silence. For TRTardians it's just a hilarious coincidence that the hyperacusis I have consists of exactly these two frequencies getting louder when met with external sound. It's probably a damaged cochlea, but it could be a pressure in the middle...

Yes yes stall stall stall, the Jastreboff manual, make it personal, etc. I don't expect anything. You've never debated anyone, not just me, but that goes into the definition of being a TRT provider. Any inch that a TRT provider gives to theories or operations that people have undertaken that...

My hyperacusis vibrates at the same exact frequency as the tinnitus. I ask you again, how can TRT help the hyperacusis without decreasing the tinnitus. As TRT claims this, and it's impossible, then TRT is lying. It's no surprise TRT would then be bedfellows with shrinks and their sofas and...

You counsel people? Are you a professional? Professional psychologists shouldn't be doing an otologist's work but do so because otologists ignore hyperacusis and tinnitus. They're pretty cretinous folk that help no one really, and that's in normal life, not taking into account tinnitus and...

So if you think you have the authority to explain to all of us what TRT does for severe cases, explain to me what type of tinnitus you had and what type of hyperacusis you had. Was it sudden vibratory hyperacusis and vibratory tinnitus, or was it pain hyperacusis. Tell me all about how you were...

Nothing funny about my response to you @Michael Leigh, no need for a smarmy ''Funny'' response. 1. TRT have literally backtracked to ''we just help you adapt, we don't decrease your tinnitus'', as shown in this thread. That is, when heaps of evidence were thrown at them that something...

Spending 30 dollars to read the article to deliver another no true TRT specialist trademarked sermon with all the mental gymnastics they teach each other, priceless mate. Or maybe you didn't spend 30 bucks and you didn't read it? I know a number of H cases where 30 bucks would feed them for a...

I humiliated chat-hyperacusis a few years ago. I was basically Mohammad Ali vs the TRT sleazoids. There were many ways I did it, but two ways stood out. I noticed that for all their publications in academic papers, the official hyperacusis questionnaire, promoted by TRT BS vendors, didn't seek...

LOL You must be new here. These two sentences are as funny as a fat girl trying to give an erection. I'm far more knowledgeable about hyperacusis than the average moronic audiologist. Things are so terrible in the hyperacusis research, that when I took on chat-h lambasting them for not...

This is one of the main but many reasons why the LDL test is such a sham. It's delivered by huckstersupremeJastreboff-namedropping bureaucratic philistines, and their only concept is loudness. They never inserted beeps instead of levelled out sound in there to test sudden H, they inserted beeps...

Sudden sound hyperacusis is when you're bothered overwhelmingly by the sudden sound, the part where the sound starts, instead of by the levelled out sound. So by the tapping on a table instead of by the box fan at your feet. In the last Silverstein seminar, many of the patients comment having...

TRT is debunked, and chat-hyperacusis is that last place anyone should go for info of anything. When reinforcement of the window came out a few years ago, chat-h mandarins were desperately reaching for reasonings that would absorb both the successes in that procedure while simultaneously not...

The ATA is composed of profiteering audiologists. It's as if you said a church was non-profit because they have a non-profit corp sitting somewhere around there in addition to all their other shady dealings.

Because corruption. It's one of those systems that tick all the boxes in the phoneyness category required to extend like the plague. Offers solution to blame bothersome weak people for not trying hard enough TICK Offers an industry to audiologist harpies with no engineering skills in the stupid...

The TTTS support group in facebook, a german woman in there found a famous german PET doctor called Holger Sudhoff who claims there is indeed a link between sudden sound H and PET. She also found another who claims there is a pressure issue inside the ear. In both cases we don't know if there's...

So basically you say you treated your H and T with further acoustic traumas. And maybe you were going to be cured anyways. The theory you refer to: is unproven, and maintained with stories like yours and by clinicians with dubious reporting standards. Often I've talked to these clinicians and...

My ''H'' is by definition also ''T'' as it's easy to ascertain that if both my high and low pitched Ts increase during sound, it's also easy to assume that it's also this T, especially my low frequency T, that's the one that's vibrating strongly/thumping at the start of each new external sound...

Sounds can be very physical and yet not come from the middle ear. I want to make it very clear that I don't mean that all physical feelings are by definition from the middle ear. It's just a theory, which was debated about in chat-h and the myoclonus proboards a decade or more ago. For some...

What frequency is/was your tinnitus?

Two decades with this shit. But I have high and low frequency tinnitus too with it and I doubt my H could go without the T going too, as low frequency tinnitus in my case IS the hyperacusis itself, as it combines with exterior sound. Did @Bill Bauer @Sebastians tinnituses stay the exact same...

I bet they'd find a link between low frequency tinnitus and a form of hyperacusis, if they tried a little hard. On tinnitustalk it's come up quite often, and astrid mentioned it back in the day over at chat-h. Unfortunately we have real pests that have infiltrated the system and project their...

What frequency or frequencies is your tinnitus?

You got used to your tinnitus? You mean you exposed yourself to sound and got a second acoustic trauma? Sounds like my story. Careful with those who say exposure is good. What I do is I live in silence and probably because I don't take silence for granted, I'm very happy doing so. It's tough...

That's disgraceful. I'm sure the TRT crowd are too busy fapping to their own confirmation bias. Greg I think you told me once before but I can't remember, before the operation, what sensations did your H consist of, and what sounds provoked it?

So in recent years I found out there are many many different types of hyperacusis. Many more than the ones described by the establishment of sound therapists because they're like a royal family of inbreds. There are some, fewer than I thought though, like me, who feel vibrations in the ear. And...

Wtf kind of advice is this. Bodily noise hyperacusis is a feature in either Patulous Eustachian tube disorder or superior canal dehiscence disorder. Even this guy had a theory that involved inflammation of the membranes. Or it could be a sympathetic vibration of sorts.

The latest Silverstein lecture was very interesting. I emailed the organizer before the conference to try to get him to figure out if the patients had been complaining of sudden sounds. I watched the video a month ago or so and seem to recall that they kept mentioning sudden sounds, so maybe...

What about when you're outside, and you hear your ''wifes voice, sons voice, my own voice, light switch,'', what about when it's silent outside and you hear those sounds? Sound difference hyperacusis, as opposed to sound loudness hyperacusis, is shared by many of us, especially if we have low...

So I think what you meant was signal-to-noise ratio, right? If so, can you think of any reason why a faulty amplifier would impose its own signal on the signal and not bother so much with the noise? I found your thread iirc because I was searching about amplifiers.

I have a low frequency vibration tinnitus and a high pitched tinnitus, and don't notice hearing loss anywhere. That is beyond maybe in those two frequencies where I have the tinnituses, but even there it could be because the tinnitus is drowning out the sound. Thing is, my ear also thumps with...

What do you mean by this? Is the hissing sound, random signals on all frequencies? Isn't it just one frequency, a high pitched frequency? Why would the high pitched tinnitus (hissing sound) accompany the other tone, in your faulty sound amplifier?

They discovered a few pain fibers somewhere in the cochlea but to the best of my recollection didn't prove it was linked to H and T. They also didn't explain why some T and H behaves just like an amplifier in the ear and feels just like it, whereas other people, often ones who complain about...

I forgot to mention the guy who was cured from startle ''hyperacusis'' with eardrum reinforcement, and anesthesia and lidocaine on the eustachian tube. Hazell is such a failure for saying that there's no damage in the ear, what a loser. He'd dismiss the patient as being a hunter-gatherer that...

I was recently offended yet again by the stupidity of the Jastrebluffites when I chanced upon their shitty attempt at brandsquatting at that site. I read the retarded, lazy, disgusting, disgraceful and already thoroughly debunked statement ''Since all people with hyperacusis can be helped by a...

What do you mean? I looked SR up, and I'm not sure I'm bothered enough to try to understand it. I bet TRT's use of it is along the lines of this comment on an article about it: ''Even more unfortunately, SR has sometimes been invoked in pseudoscientific contexts, such as explaining why “Native...

There's nothing even remotely funny about it, and nothing personal about it. You speak in a totalizing manner like Jastreboff does, about terms invented by him, that are extremely dangerous to the community. He's the Elmer Gantry of this place. Focus on this thread, where Jastreboff gives...

You improved from placebo and Jastreboff is a dangerous sociopath. How much gaslighting does Jastreboff do?

I think maybe @Mithrandir from his own experience would say yes. Maybe he can update us on how it's going but last I heard he was making advances from his acoustic shock with TMJ devices. However like in everything in the T and H world, facebook is riddled with complaints and praises in both...

But someone I knew had chemotherapy and he for a short period had exactly the ''startle'' issue. Damaged hair cells are supposed to be damaged for good. And yet his was temporary, and someone else reinforced their eardrum and got better. As for pain without vibration, neuropathic pain, there are...

But don't overpowered speakers do precisely that, crackle and crumple? Now I remember I think why I had you down as such a different type of H as mine.

No. All I'm saying is there are people that got better from mineral supplementation. They had that defficiency and that caused issues in the ear, nothing to do with a fear response. That's why Jastreboff poisoned the pool and where all this shrinkbabble comes from. I'm saying that this...

Ok, so I've misremembered, maybe even misread you. What did your H feel like then? What would it do to your ear?

iirc crumpling was had by someone here I talked to in this subforum who had otosclerosis. As for the other part, brain fog is also a feature of vestibular neuritis and meniere's. All of them are like H, they're all feeding wrong info to the brain. The spectrum of wrongfeeds is linear, just...

Exactly. But that's no small feat. There's a huge difference between the two. And it's been twisted by psychologists and asshat Jastreboofheads. I have another ailment, belching. It's a symptom that appears in those with hiatal hernias. Only that mine wasn't spotted in conventional tests. But...

That's because depression affects you like a magnesium defficiency affects another patient with H. Are you going to say he has a magnesium response and you have a fear response? No of course not. The reality is the T crowd comes in to the H crowd with their psychobabble and we keep being fed...

Actually they did claim it was behind all hyperacusis because their hyperacusis questionnaires have never bothered to differentiate what types of ''discomfort'' the patients have going on. They are miles behind online groups where H sufferers get together and talk just because of that...

The phenomenon that loud sounds if they're evened out bother us less than quiet sounds if they're sudden isn't due to the nonsense spewed out by philistines thanks to the immense damage Jastreboff did to the knowledge about it. It's because nobody knows as no experts have bothered to hypothesize...

The damaged hair cell theory is a rubbish theory, because if the cells are irreplaceable people with the theory known as 'recruitment' wouldn't acquire it starting and stopping in harmony with ''meniere's'' like it does, and because people wouldn't get better from thumping vibrating hyperacusis...

What kinds of hyperacusis or sensitivity to sounds did you have and what kinds of tinnitus did you have before the operation and did they change?