All Things Are Possible to Him Who Believes.

[Joe P. Tamborra]

Chelles, Thank you for your nice comment. I sure appreciate positive responses when
I am just trying to help people come to a greater understanding of the signs of the times.
It nice to know that there are other Believers here with me, who put their faith in the
Lord Jesus Christ, the Master of the Universe.

 

[Danny Boy]

Chelles, Thank you for your nice comment. I sure appreciate positive responses when
I am just trying to help people come to a greater understanding of the signs of the times.
It nice to know that there are other Believers here with me, who put their faith in the
Lord Jesus Christ, the Master of the Universe.

I've gotta to admit, I admire your faith.

 

[Joe P. Tamborra]

thanks Danny, I sure try.

 

[Danny Boy]

thanks Danny, I sure try.

No problem. Hopefully there is an afterlife...

 

[RichL]

Rich, I am intrigued by your unbelieving pessimistic attitude toward God.

Towards what you perceive to be your God, not my God at all!

I do not make stuff up
for one thing,

This quote of yours.

Some of my writing was biblical and some came from my God given
inspiration.

In other words you make stuff up.

God has called me to be a messenger of His word.

So you say!

If you do not like what the book says
you need to take that up with the author (God).

My understanding is that allot of men wrote the books and was canonized by the church and every website I've visited about the canonization of the bible amazingly enough use the bible to prove every question raised about it's authenticity!
It must be true because it(the bible) says so!

If you wish to continue to blaspheme and disrespect the only source of salvation that is your own choice to make.

Wasn't aware I was blaspheming or disrespecting it, If questioning a book that was written by man and professed to be the word of a God is disrespecting it, I must be guilty as charged then.

I am a theist @Joe P. Tamborra , I believe in a God or a creator, just not yours!

I don't agree with religion at all, the bible and mans interpretation of it are responsible for millions upon millions of murders and countless wars throughout history, It gave man a reason to plunder, rape and torture those who were less fortunate or didn't worship the right God, the tyranny by rulers down through the ages in the name of God is written into every history book, and before the christian God, it was the sun God, Zeus, Apollo etc, etc,and all those Gods preached war, so forgive me if I see the bible for what it really is.

The bible is a history book, probably a little accurate and based a little on fact in much the same way as homer's liad has turned out to be, nothing more, nothing less!

If you preach in a public forum, be prepared to be challenged on your opinions, I really think it would have been better for you to address the forum and ask if any one would like to be preached too or talk about the Christian bible, then you could have spread the word in a private group message to members like yourself.

Your faith must work for you and I respect that but I also think that we do have the right not to be bombarded with full on preaching in a public forum.

 

[RichL]

Hopefully there is an afterlife...

That's a nice thought, I would prefer it if reincarnation were true.

 

[Danny Boy]

That's a nice thought, I would perfur it if reincarnation is true.

Hopefully it is...It'll be a damn shame if you get reincarnated as like animals, because we treat them so badly...

 

[RichL]

Hopefully it is...It'll be a damn shame if you get reincarnated as like animals, because we treat them so badly...

Yea your right, only as another human!

 

[Danny Boy]

Yea your right, only as another human!

It's just so scary to think of the universe and how massive it is...And to think of death and other things creeps me out...But depression can cave you in seriously.

 

[RichL]

It's just so scary to think of the universe and how massive it is...And to think of death and other things creeps me out...But depression can cave you in seriously.

It only gets harder bro and more confusing the more you learn, I have made it a hobby to learn as much as I can about evolution, religion and Astronomy and believe me the more knowledge we get the more questions arise.

The older you get, the more accepting of death you get, that's what I've found anyway!

 

[Danny Boy]

It only gets harder bro and more confusing the more you learn, I have made it a hobby to learn as much as I can about evolution, religion and Astronomy and believe me the more knowledge we get the more questions arise.

The older you get, the more accepting of death you get, that's what I've found anyway!

Yeah...I'm only young and death is always on my mind...Because if I don't get a permeant reduction, I feel like it'll be the end of me.

 

[RichL]

Yeah...I'm only young and death is always on my mind...Because if I don't get a permeant reduction, I feel like it'll be the end of me.

I hope when you come off these drugs your on you have lasting affects bro.

 

[Danny Boy]

I hope when you come off these drugs your on you have lasting affects bro.

Thank you! I hope I do too...And I hope my journey will inspire others.

 

[cullenbohannon]

Regarding the divorce rate if anyone is actually curious they can google it and find many articles and statistics on the cdc website if they would like.

Cullen, I consider it to be a very foolish assessment of our financial crisis here in America, with
your statement of it, "not actually a huge deal". To me living decades in debt is an extremely huge
deal, just saying......

Well i think we disagree on there being a financial crisis then, we have always had debt its not a new thing.I agree we should get in under control, but i dont think its the scary issue people make it out to be.

 

[Joe P. Tamborra]

Well Rich, Its a shame that with all the fulfilled prophecies in the bible, you
still choose to believe it to be an ordinary book. The bible is far from an everyday book, it is a life changing book that has helped many people for hundreds of years. By the way the author of the evolution theory, named Charles Darwin, renounced it on his death bed; that sure is EYE opening for believers in HIS theory.

 

[RichL]

The bible is far from an everyday book, it is a life changing book that has helped many people for hundreds of years.

Yes, no doubt it has helped many people over the years but it's also killed millions!

By the way the author of the evolution theory, named Charles Darwin, renounced it on his death bed; that sure is EYE opening for believers in HIS theory.

Why did you even bring this up?

Now you are embarrassing yourself, anyone with a little knowledge on science knows that this is a myth orchestrated by christian proper gander.

This story was invented by a certain Lady Hope, who was an evangelical Christian and shameless liar. Her account was denied by Darwin's own daughter, Henrietta, a devout Christian, who was with her father throughout his final illness.

Check for yourself.....http://christiananswers.net/q-aig/darwin.html

You might want to quit while you are only a little behind aye @Joe P. Tamborra

 

[cullenbohannon]

I wasn't going comment on the religion debate, but this is getting ridiculous.

 

[Joe P. Tamborra]

Rich, All I can tell you is that when God comes into someones life
they change. All this other stuff does not mean a whole lot. Mankind
has lost there way for the most part, and they need to change, the biblical
term for this is REPENTANCE.

 

[Joe P. Tamborra]

hey Cul, its no debate, its just differing opinions.

 

[Dr. Nagler]

I really don't have an opinion to offer here, but I'd like to thank @RichL for clarifying the myth about Darwin's renouncing his theory of evolution on his death bed. I had heard that story as well and always wondered whether or not it was true.

 

[RichL]

hey Cul, its no debate, its just differing opinions.

Yea, mine are based on facts, yours on here say!

Rich, All I can tell you is that when God comes into someones life
they change. All this other stuff does not mean a whole lot. Mankind
has lost there way for the most part, and they need to change, the biblical
term for this is REPENTANCE.

This is sounding like a sermon.

That's the thing, for the most part, people on the whole are good loving people, you only need to look at charity's and disaster relief funds that in a week can raise millions of dollars at the drop of a hat.
The earthquake that has just happened in Nepal will no doubt have donation hotlines set up all over the world and I know here in NZ that whenever there is a major disaster anywhere in the world, we have relief funds up and running within 12 hours of it happening!
It is really only a small part of the worlds population that is bad or pure evil to use a Christian term, most people are genuinely good and do to others what they would like done to them.

To say mankind has lost it's way for the most part is plain wrong, it is a select few who promote selfishness and love of themselves, the common person is at there mercy!

I'm about done with this thread now.

I really don't have an opinion to offer here, but I'd like to thank @RichL for clarifying the myth about Darwin's renouncing his theory of evolution on his death bed. I had heard that story as well and always wondered whether or not it was true.

Your welcome!

 

[Chelles]

If someone is so against religion why not ignore the post and continue with their day?? When I see a post I don't agree with I don't think of starting a hostile conversation I move on to the next post, just saying tho....

 

[RichL]

If someone is so against religion why not ignore the post and continue with their day?? When I see a post I don't agree with I don't think of starting a hostile conversation I move on to the next post, just saying tho....

This thread is in 'off topic, general discussion' An opinion was expressed in this public forum, I put forward my opinion, it's called Healthy debate!

If you interpret healthy debate as Hostile conversation, then I'm afraid you have issues!

 

[Chelles]

This thread is in 'off topic, general discussion' An opinion was expressed in this public forum, I put forward my opinion, it's called Healthy debate!

If you interpret healthy debate as Hostile conversation, then I'm afraid you have issues!

I disagree therefore I will move on....

 

[RichL]

I disagree therefore I will move on....

 

[jimH]

....(j/k).

 

[marqualler]

the government will have no choice but to raise taxes further, causing the American people more hardship.

Hi Joe, not to take the conversation too off topic, but if taxes were raised on the uber-wealthy as ATEOS suggested would be beneficial in eliminating that debt, what hardship would that cause to the "other 99%", so to speak? Put it another way: raising taxes on those who are on the extreme side of wealth would not cause those people hardship in the way someone in poverty would experience, don't you think? I am by no means a bible scholar but it seems to me that Jesus' position on wealth is clear:

Then Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, "How hard it will be for those who have wealth to enter the kingdom of God!" And the disciples were perplexed at these words. But Jesus said to them again, "Children, how hard it is to enter the kingdom of God! It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God." They were greatly astounded and said to one another, "Then who can be saved?" Jesus looked at them and said, "For mortals it is impossible, but not for God; for God all things are possible." (NRSV, Mark 10:23-27)

The co-mingling of what I see as a distortion of Christian theology and political activity is a major problem in the USA, creating roadblocks to solving problems like climate change, poverty, etc. All things that I think God would want us to solve on earth.

(Just to put my cards on the table here: I am a practicing Episcopalian who attends a church that is on the left-leaning side of things. ex. Many of our members are in committed same-sex relationships, and now that same-sex marriage is legal in Minnesota, many have gotten married.)

 

[Joe P. Tamborra]

Rich, I certainly can understand how you feel the majority of people are good.
However you are basing your opinion on your own understanding. I am basing my
opinion on the standards the God sets which seem to be much higher than yours.
I never met one single human that has fully obeyed the ten commandments there
whole life, and I never will. The only one that pulled that off was the Lord Jesus.
It has been okay interacting with you but I don't expect we are going to see eye
to eye on many of these important issues we have been discussing.

 

[Joe P. Tamborra]

Hey Marq, I suppose if the real rich floated the tab on taxes that would take the
pressure off the multitudes. I don't know if that would be fair though to make them
pay so much. To me it would make more sense for the government to stop
immediately with all its foolish overspending. I do agree Marq of your observation
that Jesus was not really much interested in worldly wealth. I do think your idea
is better than the way things have been going though. Thanks for the insight.

 

[Joe P. Tamborra]

Hey Chelles, Thanks for coming to my defense. You have proved to
be a loyal friend.