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[fishbone]

Guys/gals

I had an excellent martial arts class last night. It was loud and I expected it to be, I had my ear plugs and still did my training. My teacher really likes my honesty and I am probably one of his best students in the whole school.

I would put my ear plugs in when we were about to do the loud exercises and routines. I cared less if anyone knew or didn't know. It's all about protecting the hearing i have left and not increasing my tinnitus volume.

Folks, always protect your ears, do not think or ever be ashamed to put an ear plug in if the environment is way too loud and uncomfortable for your ears. I am honest with all my friends and family and let them know that I cannot tolerate loud places at all...

Do not think that you will be less cool and hip, if you put ear plugs in your ear. At the end of the day, it's your ears ringing and not theirs.

Be confident and be bold and protect your ears. My message might sound very simple but it's really a deep impact that you make in your own lives. Maybe when I was younger and had better ears, this would have been a little difficult, but now at my age and my EARS' situations, this requires no thinking at all and I'll put my ear plugs in right away...

Love yourself and protect your ears.......

PS- I am proud or representing people with tinnitus and doing my best to support ALL of you guys/gals!

 

[orbiter12]

I always protect my ears when I go to loud places like pubs etc and its saved me a few times, most recently a popped balloon 1m away. Thankfully had the plugs in.

 

[Bill Bauer]

Do not think that you will be less cool and hip, if you put ear plugs in your ear.

I think this is a wonderful advice.

I am considering taking it to the next level. Drilling my tooth to replace a filling might aggravate my tinnitus. Extracting the tooth and replacing it with a bridge, involves drilling of the adjacent teeth to make the bridge. I am considering extracting the tooth (it is one of the front teeth), and walking around with a gap where that tooth used to be. It will feel awful, but it will be better than dealing with louder T...

 

[Michael Leigh]

I am considering taking it to the next level. Drilling my tooth to replace a filling might aggravate my tinnitus. Extracting the tooth and replacing it with a bridge, involves drilling of the adjacent teeth to make the bridge. I am considering extracting the tooth (it is one of the front teeth), and walking around with a gap where that tooth used to be. It will feel awful, but it will be better than dealing with louder T...

Bill, I have had many dental procedures over 20 years and my tinnitus hasn't increased once. I think you are over reacting and taking this too far. You have no way of knowing whether your tinnitus will increase with dental work. However, one way of making it assured is by giving into fear.
All the best
Michael

 

[Bill Bauer]

You have no way of knowing whether your tinnitus will increase with dental work.

Two glass plates clanking together gave me a spike that lasted the rest of the day yesterday. I am worried that a dental procedure will be louder, and will result in more serious consequences...

 

[Michael Leigh]

Two glass plates clanking together gave me a spike that lasted the rest of the day yesterday. I am worried that a dental procedure will be louder, and will result in more serious consequences...

I understand how you feel I went through difficulties and spikes when I had severe tinnitus and hyperacusis 20 years ago. I didn't worry about it and these spikes calmed down and the hyperacusis was cured in 2 years. My hyperacusis was so severe I had to ask people to lower their voice when talking to me. By worrying over these things we give them importance and that's something we must try not to do with tinnitus and hyperacusis as they are likely to become worse.

Once you start giving into tinnitus and hyperacusis you are no longer in control of your life. Perhaps you have read the story of the woman I was counselling that had severe hyperacusis that progressed to phonophobia type symptoms because she was afraid of noise and wouldn't leave her home. It became a huge problem. She couldn't tolerate the sound of the: mircrowave, dishwasher, washing machine or kettle. Even the sound of rain falling on her conservatory glass roof caused distress - I'm not kidding. Thankfully, she did improve with time.

All the best
Michael

 

[jjflyman]

Two glass plates clanking together gave me a spike that lasted the rest of the day yesterday. I am worried that a dental procedure will be louder, and will result in more serious consequences...

Bill
I know how you feel. Clanking dishes and microwave ovens (and a lot of other things) gave me fits for at least the first 8 months or so. Thankfully the H has improved a lot in the last 3 months. I'm sure yours will get better.

 

[Bill Bauer]

Bill
I know how you feel. Clanking dishes and microwave ovens (and a lot of other things) gave me fits for at least the first 8 months or so. Thankfully the H has improved a lot in the last 3 months. I'm sure yours will get better.

I am not worried about any spikes that are temporary. I am saying that these things are minor compared to the noise during a dental procedure... So I am worried about having that dental procedure...

 

[Michael Leigh]

noise during a dental procedure... So I am worried about having that dental procedure...

I believe if you were able to get some counselling with an Audiologist/Hearing Therapist whose trained in the management and treatment of tinnitus and hyperacusis, your fear and anxiety towards these conditions and sound will reduce significantly.

Michael

 

[fishbone]

I think this is a wonderful advice.

I am considering taking it to the next level. Drilling my tooth to replace a filling might aggravate my tinnitus. Extracting the tooth and replacing it with a bridge, involves drilling of the adjacent teeth to make the bridge. I am considering extracting the tooth (it is one of the front teeth), and walking around with a gap where that tooth used to be. It will feel awful, but it will be better than dealing with louder T...

Bill,

In all honesty I use to live for the MOTTO - Image is everything. This was my younger years, but when my ears started becoming a problem, i started off by wearing ear plugs to the gym. Lots of people would just throw weights around and grunt and make loud noises, for no reason. I slowly figured that, if I don't protect myself, who will?

I also have psoriasis on the face and scalp and ta times I do break out, so ill have a redness/rash looking thing on my face and I just face it and live my life. I am proud of myself and will not let the world ruin that.

I hope your dental procedure goes well and if it is too loud, then protect your ears.

Never care what the public or society thinks, when you are trying to protect you and your health..

 

[Bill Bauer]

I believe if you were able to get some counselling with an Audiologist/Hearing Therapist whose trained in the management and treatment of tinnitus and hyperacusis, your fear and anxiety towards these conditions and sound will reduce significantly.

This has nothing to do with my anxiety, if any. If, following the dental procedure, T will get louder and it is permanent, then I will be committing suicide. If I am forced to walk around with no front tooth, it would suck but not enough to force me to commit suicide. What matters is the volume, not my psychological well being.

 

[Bill Bauer]

Never care what the public or society thinks, when you are trying to protect you and your health..

Makes sense to me.

By the way, I had facial acne back when I was a teenager. It cleared up completely once I began wiping my face with cotton dubbed in hydrogen peroxide, every evening.

 

[fishbone]

Makes sense to me.

By the way, I had facial acne back when I was a teenager. It cleared up completely once I began wiping my face with cotton dubbed in hydrogen peroxide, every evening.

You know Bill, I got psoriasis in my late 20s and one day, my whole body probably had 1 million red dots all over it from head to toe. I thought i had shingles or chicken pox again and it was a huge blow to my life. I have fine straight hair and it use to be down to my shoulders. Because of the psoriasis I cannot keep hair long anymore and I have to have a super short hair cut, or else the lesions will come back to the scalp and dominate the hair line.

Another thing that we just gotta , move on from and live our life

 

[Michael Leigh]

This has nothing to do with my anxiety, if any. If, following the dental procedure, T will get louder and it is permanent, then I will be committing suicide. If I am forced to walk around with no front tooth, it would suck but not enough to force me to commit suicide. What matters is the volume, not my psychological well being.

You are very new to tinnitus @Bill Bauer and have contributed many posts to this forum, and some are quite helpful. I know you have issues with suicide and you've told me you're a negative thinking person. You may think what tinnitus and hyperacusis is putting you through has nothing to do with your psychological well being, but I assure you that it has everything to do with it. However, I shan't pursue this matter further.
All the best
Michael

 

[fishbone]

You are very new to tinnitus @Bill Bauer and have contributed many posts to this forum, and some are quite helpful. I know you have issues with suicide and you've told me you're a negative thinking person. You may think what tinnitus and hyperacusis is putting you through has nothing to do with your psychological well being, but I assure you that it has everything to do with it. However, I shan't pursue this matter further.
All the best
Michael

Bill I have to agree with Michael on this one. You are an emotional being and tinnitus is not an easy thing for you or for anyone. Tinnitus will spark tons of anxiety and will just drive people up the wall. When people get this thing, at first they struggle hard. I struggled hard too, I am no superman and will not BS you and the board saying that I was the way i am, in the beginning when I got tinnitus.

I would question everything and ask anyone that would listen. No one listened to me, except my mom (God bless her soul )

Please don't think that your situation, is out of the norm. It's not and you are just doing fine. TIME , PATIENCE, SUPPORT = getting through this mess.

It will all work out and come together, you are SO SO SO lucky that people like Michael and myself come here to show the love, care and knowledge on this matter. You will not find this type of help and knowledge anywhere else....

Love yourself and be kind to you and let time help you and others....

 

[orbiter12]

I think this is a wonderful advice.

I am considering taking it to the next level. Drilling my tooth to replace a filling might aggravate my tinnitus. Extracting the tooth and replacing it with a bridge, involves drilling of the adjacent teeth to make the bridge. I am considering extracting the tooth (it is one of the front teeth), and walking around with a gap where that tooth used to be. It will feel awful, but it will be better than dealing with louder T...

A few months ago I would of thought this is absurd, but now I completley understand. My T is getting louder and louder with new tones that make me miss my original T. Why risk doing something that has a chance of making your T worse, its only going to make you worse potentially for the rest of your life and regret it. I still go out to pubs etc with my friends but I make sure if its loud I wearplugs and if its too loud I will just straight up leave. Not worth the risk at all.

My GP and ENT are trying to get me to take SSRI's. Yes, they are fine for some people and cause no problems. What if they did increase my T, i'd only regret it.

 

[orbiter12]

Also to add 15 of my close friends are all jetted off to magaluf this friday for a holiday of a life time. I wish more thana anything I could be joining them (especially now im recently single) but i know i cant.

The holiday will be a distance memory in years to come.

But the increased tinnitus could stay for a lifetime.

 

[jjflyman]

If, following the dental procedure, T will get louder and it is permanent, then I will be committing suicide

I think healing from your T is your top priority. I canceled my dentists appointment too (just a cleaning), so I agree with you. I wouldn't want any drilling done right now either.

 

[Michael Leigh]

I would question everything and ask anyone that would listen. No one listened to me, except my mom (God bless her soul )
Please don't think that your situation, is out of the norm. It's not and you are just doing fine. TIME , PATIENCE, SUPPORT = getting through this mess.

A great post @fishbone not because you mentioned my name but because it is the voice of experience. Although tinnitus is a common condition that many people habituate to and are able to carry on with their lives doing everything that they want to with ease. It is an entirely different matter when it is severe and intrusive and worse if hyperacusis is present.

When this condition is severe and intrusive especially for someone new to the condition, it can seriously affect their mental well-being. It is for this reason counselling with a Hearing Therapist or Audiologist can be so helpful for people that find it distressing. You are quite right fishbone, many people just don't want to know when someone tells them they find tinnitus distressing. Even those that have tinnitus and habituated think it's nothing just a "piece of cake" Some have said so in this forum: You should be counting your lucky stars that you just have tinnitus because it isn't life threatening or serious as some medical conditions.

Anyone that talks this way has never experienced "loud intrusive tinnitus" sustained over a long period of time. When tinnitus is this severe, it is as serious and debilitating as any acute medical condition because of what it can do to a person's state of mind.

Michael

 

[Bill Bauer]

I think healing from your T is your top priority. I canceled my dentists appointment too (just a cleaning), so I agree with you. I wouldn't want any drilling done right now either.

The problem is that I was told that I am about to need a root canal in that tooth (which involves even more drilling). I have a choice - either replace the filling [a high chance that I already need a root canal there], or extract the tooth...

 

[orbiter12]

@Michael Leigh What caused your T?

 

[orbiter12]

The problem is that I was told that I am about to need a root canal in that tooth (which involves even more drilling). I have a choice - either replace the filling [a high chance that I already need a root canal there], or extract the tooth...

Could you not wear peltor muffs?

 

[fishbone]

A great post @fishbone not because you mentioned my name but because it is the voice of experience. Although tinnitus is a common condition that many people habituate to and are able to carry on with their lives doing everything that they want to with ease. It is an entirely different matter when it is severe and intrusive and worse if hyperacusis is present.

When this condition is severe and intrusive especially for someone new to the condition, it can seriously affect their mental well-being. It is for this reason counselling with a Hearing Therapist or Audiologist can be so helpful for people that find it distressing. You are quite right fishbone, many people just don't want to know when someone tells them they find tinnitus distressing. Even those that have tinnitus and habituated think it's nothing just a "piece of cake" Some have said so in this forum: You should be counting your lucky stars that you just have tinnitus because it isn't life threatening or serious as some medical conditions.

Anyone that talks this way has never experienced "loud intrusive tinnitus" sustained over a long period of time. When tinnitus is this severe, it is as serious and debilitating as any acute medical condition because of what it can do to a person's state of mind.

Michael

I have to agree with Michael's post! Tinnitus is a very serious matter and by no means, dealing with severe tinnitus is a piece of cake. It takes, lots of guts to move forward with this thing.

Im very honest with this board. I have had a life filled with many negativities, not because I did them, they just happened. Based on all those events and ordeals, I can handle the pain tinnitus brings. Also, being a spiritual person also helps me.

I have tons of inner strength, that have come because of all the lessons that life has taught me. It's that inner strength that keeps me calm, when i have close to ambulance (High level/sharp pitch ringing) level ringing in my ears. It is very ugly and painful, but the MIND is a powerful thing and it can do wonders....

Finding that inner strength, is the key and all of us have that in us.....

IT truly takes a strong soul, to handle tinnitus...Especially if it is LOUD/high pitched demon level tinnitus...

Bless all

 

[TheDanishGirl]

I am kind of in the same dilemma as Bill.....I have a tooth that has cavity and needs its filling replaced and it involves drilling.....i actually had an appointment scheduled for it to take place 5 days after my tinnitus started, needless to say i was scared out of my mind and cancelled it.

Now that bad tooth just sits there getting worse probably.....I'm still scared, and have also had the thought that maybe i should have it pulled out instead, it is a molar tooth.....

 

[Bill Bauer]

it is a molar tooth

Is it a wisdom tooth?

 

[Jake007]

IT truly takes a strong soul, to handle tinnitus...

That it does

 

[yonkapin]

Tremendous post my friend!

 

[Bill Bauer]

Could you not wear peltor muffs?

A lot of the sound of the drill will be conducted via bone conduction. The tooth that needs work done is on the upper jaw...

 

[Sean]

Guys/gals

I had an excellent martial arts class last night. It was loud and I expected it to be, I had my ear plugs and still did my training. My teacher really likes my honesty and I am probably one of his best students in the whole school.

I would put my ear plugs in when we were about to do the loud exercises and routines. I cared less if anyone knew or didn't know. It's all about protecting the hearing i have left and not increasing my tinnitus volume.

Folks, always protect your ears, do not think or ever be ashamed to put an ear plug in if the environment is way too loud and uncomfortable for your ears. I am honest with all my friends and family and let them know that I cannot tolerate loud places at all...

Do not think that you will be less cool and hip, if you put ear plugs in your ear. At the end of the day, it's your ears ringing and not theirs.

Be confident and be bold and protect your ears. My message might sound very simple but it's really a deep impact that you make in your own lives. Maybe when I was younger and had better ears, this would have been a little difficult, but now at my age and my EARS' situations, this requires no thinking at all and I'll put my ear plugs in right away...

Love yourself and protect your ears.......

PS- I am proud or representing people with tinnitus and doing my best to support ALL of you guys/gals!

I so agree with you !

 

[Michael Leigh]

@Michael Leigh What caused your T?

Using Headphones over a long period of time. I didn't realise that the tinnitus was coming on for quite a while. Thinking back, I used to hear ringing in the night but dimissed it as nothing and by the morning it was gone. The reason for this, daily environmental sounds masked the tinnitus. One day I was listening to music through the headphones and when I removed them suddenly heard the loud ringing. It wasn't until I went from room to room in my home trying to find the source, that I realised the noise was coming from my head and ears. It frightened the life out of me.

Cutting a long story short: My whole head and ears were completely numb for months as I had completely blown my auditory system. Everything sounded as if I were listening under water. Those that are old enough will remember the kettle that whistles when it comes to a boil on a gas hob. One night I awoke to the frightening sound of a continous loud whistle-like steam coming out both my ears. It was high pitched and very intrusive. I got dressed and drove to the hospital Accident an Emergency at at 2am.

I know how distressing tinnitus can be and what it can do to a person.
Michael