Argument Shouts

[Thongjy]

Just had a dispute quarrel with my wife and she is shouting loudly when talking.
Shortly at later part I plug my ears when she shout loudly.

Did not monitor my T recently as it was almost gone and I can ignore it. But after the shout as I worried it can worsen my T I start listen out and seems louder than baseline.

Is there any damage done to me? Really do not want to go back to Day 1.

 

[Kathi]

Just had a dispute quarrel with my wife and she is shouting loudly when talking.
Shortly at later part I plug my ears when she shout loudly.

Did not monitor my T recently as it was almost gone and I can ignore it. But after the shout as I worried it can worsen my T I start listen out and seems louder than baseline.

Is there any damage done to me? Really do not want to go back to Day 1.

You are most likely okay and when the anxiety from the dispute settles down, you will be fine. I don't think one loud voice will hurt your tinnitus. Everyone is human and sometimes we have conflicts but I've found that people pay more attention when I speak in my 'serious' voice vs. raising my voice. Just my opinion. I hope all is well now.

Hugs.

 

[jeannie]

I found something strange that happened to me a few days ago, I was at hospital with my mom, and while sitting in the waiting room the fire alarms went off right above my head, I also wore my hearing aides with maskers on that particular day to drown out a little bit of the noise (or at least try too) and I hurried up and pulled one of them out and was trying to cover my ears (needless to say people were looking at me, while they just sat there)I hurried up and went into the hallway and got my earplugs out and waited out there because the alarms wasn't right above my head and when we got into the car my tinnitus was lower for the rest of the day.... I dunno what happened or why but the noise made it go really low ... very strange..!!!

 

[Thongjy]

I found something strange that happened to me a few days ago, I was at hospital with my mom, and while sitting in the waiting room the fire alarms went off right above my head, I also wore my hearing aides with maskers on that particular day to drown out a little bit of the noise (or at least try too) and I hurried up and pulled one of them out and was trying to cover my ears (needless to say people were looking at me, while they just sat there)I hurried up and went into the hallway and got my earplugs out and waited out there because the alarms wasn't right above my head and when we got into the car my tinnitus was lower for the rest of the day.... I dunno what happened or why but the noise made it go really low ... very strange..!!!

So you mean the loud noise from the alarm made your T lower?

Was it due to the masker?

The alarm bell is it those electronics buzzer type or the bell type?

 

[erik]

There is no damage. Average human yells at 80db. So, unless if she yelled directly in your ear for 8+ hours (which might be a world record), then you are fine. Fear is the worst enemy of tinnitus. Don't fear everything and don't fear going back a few steps. That is normal.

 

[jeannie]

Thongiy, yes it went from about a 7-8 to about a 2 after the loud siren type fire alarm went off.. no it wasn't the maskers I took them out when the alarm went off because it amplified the loud siren in my ears!! of course today it started in ears and now in middle of head this s!#t is is strange!!

 

[Mad maggot]

I would not think there would be damage. But certainly emotional stress can make your T louder for a while until you calm down. Hopefully you could explain your problem to your wife and she would understand not to yell? I was told my husband was very sensitive about the size of his nose when I started going out with him. That was over twenty five years ago. Knowing he was sensitive about his nose, I never once said anything about it in all our twenty five years together, no matter how angry I got! And I'm no angel - red head with the temper that goes with it. . Anyway recently I asked him if he was sensitive about his nose. Nor laughed and laughed when I told him that for twenty five years I'd avoided ever mentioning it because I was told he was. Apparently he's never been concerned about his nose ha ha! And I'd been so careful all these years never to mention it, even when I was hopping mad! Very funny. But the point is that if your wife loves you and knows you have problems with your ears perhaps she would be willing to avoid ever yelling at you even if she's very angry.

 

[Gosia]

There is no damage. Average human yells at 80db. So, unless if she yelled directly in your ear for 8+ hours (which might be a world record), then you are fine. Fear is the worst enemy of tinnitus. Don't fear everything and don't fear going back a few steps. That is normal.

How do you know it's max 80 db ? I find on the net it can be as much as 105db. Not trying to say it might have done any damage but just would like to have a real info. My bf constantly forgets to be careful around me and he just yelled full force above my head . Thanks a lot.. I may know, theoretically , that's not enough to cause damage, yet I worry :/ Fortunately he's quite taller so it wasn't at the level of my ear, but still . Does anybody has a sure and decent source of information about the level of db of human voice ? Yesterday I experienced a shooting of a movie. The director assistant yelled so loud that even when he was 10m away it sound like a horn. Really believe a hulan can produce much more than 80 db.

 

[erik]

How do you know it's max 80 db ? I find on the net it can be as much as 105db. Not trying to say it might have done any damage but just would like to have a real info. My bf constantly forgets to be careful around me and he just yelled full force above my head . Thanks a lot.. I may know, theoretically , that's not enough to cause damage, yet I worry :/ Fortunately he's quite taller so it wasn't at the level of my ear, but still . Does anybody has a sure and decent source of information about the level of db of human voice ? Yesterday I experienced a shooting of a movie. The director assistant yelled so loud that even when he was 10m away it sound like a horn. Really believe a hulan can produce much more than 80 db.

I know for certain there are people that can probably shout at well over 80db and probably over 100db. But that is the average. I found it quoted on many sites, this is one: http://ec.europa.eu/health/opinions...nal-music-player-mp3/glossary/def/decibel.htm,

This site says 90db: https://www.alpinehearingprotection.com/wiki/5-sound-levels-in-decibels/.

There are also factors like inside, outside and distance. Someone 1 foot from you shouting is a lot different then across the room. This could be between 70-90 and possibly more. If a whisper is around 30-40, conversation around 60-65. This is feasible. Even at 100db, OSHA says 2 hours of exposure is permissible though I, personally think that would be too long of exposure without some protection. Anyway, that would be a long long shout.

The original point what that someone shouting at you is unlikely to do any harm unless it was right at your ear with a bullhorn. And though everyone is different, we want to ease people's fears and dispel any myths, which feed into fears, with facts! In the world of uncertain T, there are a few things we can know with some certainty though nothing is 100% and it would be irresponsible to say that.

 

[Gosia]

I would definitely take OSHA advice with a grain of salt and divide by two in case of T when it comes to time of exposere. Just for safety. Many audiologists claim what OSHA says it is too optimistic and is a compromise between the demand of the modern society and the real damage treshold. Still, I would agree that one shouting lady cannot cause hearing damage, except if she yelled straight in the year - then I'd say it's possible, but in a very short time and not a few hours. There's one thing that bothers me - if we really need so many decibels to cause hearing damage as OSHA claims, how come there are further people getting T from a kiss in the ear?

 

[erik]

I would definitely take OSHA advice with a grain of salt and divide by two in case of T when it comes to time of exposere. Just for safety. Many audiologists claim what OSHA says it is too optimistic and is a compromise between the demand of the modern society and the real damage treshold. Still, I would agree that one shouting lady cannot cause hearing damage, except if she yelled straight in the year - then I'd say it's possible, but in a very short time and not a few hours. There's one thing that bothers me - if we really need so many decibels to cause hearing damage as OSHA claims, how come there are further people getting T from a kiss in the ear?

Those are great questions that we probably will never have definite answers too. Just as some people need hearing aids early in age or later in life and then there is some who never do, it comes down to noise exposure, genetics and ??, I suppose.

The CDC NIOSH maybe a better guide than OSHA. Here is an interesting write up about occupational hearing loss: http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/programs/hlp/risks.html