Assisted Suicide and Tinnitus

@Carlyi Such a wonderful thought, that I'm being systematically tortured for something someone else supposedly did ages ago! Truly the work of a benevolent, loving God!
 
You know, I wonder how people would feel about 'validating' a psychologically fragile and despairing tinnitus sufferer's suicidal ideation, if even a moderately successful treatment became apparent in say, six to twelve months.
 
You know, I wonder how people would feel about 'validating' a psychologically fragile and despairing tinnitus sufferer's suicidal ideation, if even a moderately successful treatment became apparent in say, six to twelve months.

The answer you want is most likely "feeling guilty." But I don't think suicide is a sin, and I think it should be a choice. People here are not telling the OP to kill themselves. We're telling him that they are entitled to what they're feeling, and that they should be able to have options when it gets unbearable.

I'm very suicidal right now due to a second acoustic trauma after almost a year of emotional roller coaster, and in my most recent post, I asked how long I should stick around because I want to die at this very moment. I'm glad that the first response to my call for help was not a self-righteous "Don't kill yourself! It's not worth it!" comment. What I got was a practical response from @Bill Bauer telling me to wait at least two years and see if I can recover. I felt better upon reading that. I'm still in pain, but I don't feel as hopeless and surprisingly less suicidal. Instead of treating me like I'm a weakling, he saw my struggle as something real and acknowledged it.
 
What I got was a practical response from @Bill Bauer telling me to wait at least two years and see if I can recover.
This is what I had been telling myself, back in my acute stage. I actually got better(!) A lot of that recovery was erased after my secondary acoustic trauma, but at least now I am good enough to no longer be thinking about suicide all day long. So if you wait, it might eventually get better... If it doesn't - then there will always be that option....
 
It's not God's plan for us to commit suicide. Yes T. is torture and i understand why people wonder why God would allow T. and all kinds of suffering but satan is the god of this world and thanks to him we are living in a fallen world.. It's men that disobeyed God in the beginning and we all have to pay for it unfortunatly. But the one true God is a loving God who wants to help you in times of great distress. Leave it in God's hands and you will come out of this stronger.
Carlyi, the Earth is flat, right ?

Ok put a 85-90db 7200hz and 4800hz next to your head 24h, imho that is severe.
My T is (are) bad, like very bad, after years of being mild, and now covers pretty much everything, including 90dB noises. Yet I know this is not even close to a real 90dB sound. It's just not the same thing.

But everyone is entitled to have their own opinions and still live peacefully together .. which does not work that well on this planet most of the time sadly .. .]
Funny. You call suicide "shitty, stupid and egocentric". So you're talking about the people who do it, because suicide itself can't be stupid, only a person can be. The first thing not to do to live peacefully together is to call people stupid.
 
Funny. You call suicide "shitty, stupid and egocentric". So you're talking about the people who do it, because suicide itself can't be stupid, only a person can be. The first thing not to do to live peacefully together is to call people stupid.

Ah but they hate the sin and love the sinner! In the same way they love homosexuals, they just hate it when homosexuals are being homosexuals. :p Absolutely messed up, if you ask me.
 
That is playing with words and logicaly nonsense imho. I can personally dislike homosexuality and like homosexual people, actually I like homosexuality. But I can tell suicide is shitty and try to help some amazing people to stay away from it and prevent them from doing stupid decisions.
 
Well Foncky humans often do silly and even stupid things even they are great people. Often they regret their doings, suicide successful is hard to regret. it is easy to disqualify someone with wrong statement. I always talk about subjects and errare humanum est..

All the best Wojtek
 
You should never call people stupid about stuff like that, it's always more complicated than we think.

I get that you want to help people to avoid suicide, we all want that. But if you think suicide is just stupid, you will never be able to help. "Come on, suicide is stupid, think about your relatives !". I can tell you : this kind of BS will never prevent someone to do it. Quite the contrary.
 
@Wojtek Kalka you do more harm than you realize... Wojtek... If I call the Samaritans suicide phone telling them I'm suicidal. They won't tell me I'm stupid and selfish. They would tell me they understand I'm hurting and they would talk with me about things that hurt me. They would never tell me things that risk making me feel even worse.

RULE NUMBER ONE: DO NOT MAKE THE SUICIDAL PERSON FEEL LIKE THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO THEIR FEELINGS OR THAT THINKING ABOUT SUICIDE IS SELFISH AND STUPID.

RULE NUMBER TWO: DO NOT MAKE THE SUICIDAL PERSON FEEL LIKE THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO THEIR FEELINGS OR THAT THINKING ABOUT SUICIDE IS SELFISH AND STUPID.

Wojtek... I hope a suicidal person will never cross your path... you would more than likely make them more suicidal than they were to begin with...
 
You know, I wonder how people would feel about 'validating' a psychologically fragile and despairing tinnitus sufferer's suicidal ideation, if even a moderately successful treatment became apparent in say, six to twelve months.
What if cure comes in 5 years.. or 20 years... and not in six months? What is the suggested time to suffer through it... just kiddin (kinda).like would you tell to wait them 20 years too

It's not God's plan for us to commit suicide. Yes T. is torture and i understand why people wonder why God would allow T. and all kinds of suffering but satan is the god of this world and thanks to him we are living in a fallen world.. It's men that disobeyed God in the beginning and we all have to pay for it unfortunatly. But the one true God is a loving God who wants to help you in times of great distress. Leave it in God's hands and you will come out of this stronger.
Wasn't it Eve who ate the apple though lol
 
@Wojtek Kalka you do more harm than you realize... Wojtek... If I call the Samaritans suicide phone telling them I'm suicidal. They won't tell me I'm stupid and selfish. They would tell me they understand I'm hurting and they would talk with me about things that hurt me. They would never tell me things that risk making me feel even worse.
That's an "interesting" observation coming from yourself. I do believe your alter ego, Atlantis, gotyoubynuts, etc. had something to do with the following episode:

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At the beginning of this year I wrote to Dignitas and Exit to see if it was possible to have access to Assisted Suicide...

Both of them told me that they needed "prescriptions" from Doctors and apparently I don't think any Doctor would agree with the fact to have "only" Tinnitus as a good reason to die...

For me I would maybe feel better if I knew that if my T would come really unbearable, it would be really enough to the Medical World as a possibility to leave this world...
 
The commenters in this forum should not be cavalier in implicitly endorsing suicide as an option for those suffering from a condition - even one as devastating as tinnitus. Some people may be emotionally vulnerable or suffering from other physical/mental conditions and/or stressors and your comments can easily help push them over the edge.
 

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