Think you are the person who needs to go back and read this thread from the beginning and read it carefully because you may find you have one foot in the sand. And l shall tell you I didn't come here to piss you and only you, yeve a problem called short fuse. Me I'm old enough to be yer grandpappy, a veteran and my fuse is this long __.
I'm not the one ridiculing people's religious beliefs in a disease support community forum. If you're so old then you should know that doing that makes you a garbage person.
I am not a Christian either, but am interested in ontological discussions pertaining to suffering, love, and existence. ( did I use that word correctly?)
No antichrist but the Bible kind of just seemed like propaganda against Lucifer. Lucifer represents the free will of people which honestly should be God's gift to humanity. What kind of gift is predeterminarion; what being delights in a game where the outcome has already been foretold? I truly question an objective God's motivation in even creating humanity.
Haha, plot twist. There is no "Lucifer" in the Bible. The passage in Isaiah in English says Lucifer, but in Hebrew it is "shining one", and if you read the context it is about the King of Babylon, not the Devil. This transaltion originates in Jerome's Vulgate, the Latin Bible.
Predetermination is not what hardliner Calvinists and Gnostics would have you think. Predetermination just means God already knows what choice you will make, not that you cannot make the choice. You still have free will.
I think every physical, tangible thing in this world points to the contrary. Everything is cyclical; for each thing, there is a counter thing. Everything is a spectrum. I suppose humanity could be the spring and fall to heaven's summer and hell's winter. But I think recollection of all physical material in sequences of big bangs and big crunches is highly more likely.
2 Peter ch3 specifically addresses this opinion:
In my interpretation, which is admittedly vague, this seems to corroborate my theory and not lend itself to the heaven/hell paradigm.
Just because our current timeline fucked humanity up so badly does not mean that every chaos complexity has. Life is born of tangential chaos; a bunch of random reactions that eventually created the beauty of life and intelligent evolution. If our species had appropriately kept the corrupt of the wealthy and influential in check over centuries of oppression that continues to this day, we would have a utopia. A world with stronger foundations in law and order better contains this chaos into a more predictable path of positive evolution. With capitalism we see unfounded progress in many systems that are just WTF in terms of priority when compared to the real human suffering we see on this forum and surely many others. It is up to us to make our bed, and it is our own fault as a whole if we do not hold men accountable to moral law. Which we have failed time and time and time again.
I agree that is something that needs to happen but Christian repentance is pretty well established and it has nothing to do with organized progress activism because the two are mutually exclusive, but as a repentant Christian I think they should both be sought after cause duh they are both good.
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