Can I Safely Take Cloxazolam Every Once in a While to Help with Sleep?

[Emanuel Lourenco]

Hello, I really need other people's opinions and experiences as I am going through an extremely hard time... Tinnitus has once again became louder and I can't sleep properly at all... Every night all I can get is a few hours of sporadic sleep so I need to know if it's safe to take Cloxazolam on some nights.

I have taken it before on rough days to help me at nights, however with all the bad reputation that benzos have I have tried to only take it on very extreme occasions.

Can anyone please help me? Can I still take Cloxazolam on some nights or would I be better off not to?

 

[Emanuel Lourenco]

Has anyone with tinnitus taken Cloxazolam?

 

[grate_biff]

Has anyone with tinnitus taken Cloxazolam?

Never heard of it!

 

[Emanuel Lourenco]

Never heard of it!

Damn I really needed some advice From what I researched, tinnitus does not appear to be a side effect of this drug, it has a long half life, however it's still classified as a benzo so I am reluctant to take it.

I am in really bad shape though so I might not have a choice.

 

[grate_biff]

Damn I really needed some advice From what I researched, tinnitus does not appear to be a side effect of this drug, it has a long half life, however it's still classified as a benzo so I am reluctant to take it.

I am in really bad shape though so I might not have a choice.

Listen. There are a ton of posts about benzos in this forum. Just search for it and it will help you make your choice.

 

[Emanuel Lourenco]

Listen. There are a ton of posts about benzos in this forum. Just search for it and it will help you make your choice.

I have gone through quite a few threads about benzos but first off, every person reacts to them differently and also not every benzo is the same...

And when it comes to Cloxazolam there are no threads on it so I am not sure what to do. I wish I could get Clonazepam (Klonopin) but I can't.

 

[grate_biff]

And when it comes to Cloxazolam there are no threads on it so I am not sure what to do. I wish I could get Clonazepam (Klonopin) but I can't.

Don´t worry about that. Benzo is mostly benzo once it´s metabolized in our body. I know about different half times. Just try it and see. The only thing to worry about is to fall in love with them as benzos seem to help everything that is bad, incl. tinnitus.

 

[just1morething]

I wish I could get Clonazepam (Klonopin) but I can't.

Why can't you get them? Dr. won't prescribe? I got some online but they were generic and expensive.

 

[Tanni]

every person reacts to them differently

You answered your own question

If it helps, I take Diazepam (Valium) some nights when I'm in a really bad place, but my Doctor advises against it as they are very addictive.

If you think you might need to take an AD quite regularly, perhaps one of the long term ones would be better? I used to take Mirtazapine, which is basically a sedative and will knock you out at night. It suppressed my Tinnitus a little bit as well. But again, everyone reacts differently. Discuss with your doctor

 

[linearb]

Don´t worry about that. Benzo is mostly benzo once it´s metabolized in our body.

Clonazepam is actually the big exception here, because in addition to half-life differentials, Clonazepam agonizes GABA-b in addition to the typical benzo GABA-a activity; IIRC this is why some people think Klonopin might be "better" for tinnitus, though also IIRC that speculation is mostly based off a single research paper that examined non-racemic baclofen, which pushes a GABA-b button in a way that racemic baclofen apparently does not -- this information is of limited utility, because non-racemic baclofen has never been available anywhere aside from custom synthesis....

...there's a reason I was super adamant about getting name-brand Klonopin as my weapon of choice when I stepped back onto the benzo addiction wagon last year.

Mmm, Klonopin

 

[PeteJ]

You answered your own question

If it helps, I take Diazepam (Valium) some nights when I'm in a really bad place, but my Doctor advises against it as they are very addictive.

If you think you might need to take an AD quite regularly, perhaps one of the long term ones would be better? I used to take Mirtazapine, which is basically a sedative and will knock you out at night. It suppressed my Tinnitus a little bit as well. But again, everyone reacts differently. Discuss with your doctor

Why don't you take Mirtazapine anymore?

 

[Luman]

Clonazepam is actually the big exception here, because in addition to half-life differentials, Clonazepam agonizes GABA-b in addition to the typical benzo GABA-a activity; IIRC this is why some people think Klonopin might be "better" for tinnitus, though also IIRC that speculation is mostly based off a single research paper that examined non-racemic baclofen, which pushes a GABA-b button in a way that racemic baclofen apparently does not -- this information is of limited utility, because non-racemic baclofen has never been available anywhere aside from custom synthesis....

...there's a reason I was super adamant about getting name-brand Klonopin as my weapon of choice when I stepped back onto the benzo addiction wagon last year.

Mmm, Klonopin

What advantage is there in taking the name brand? Do they work in different ways, or feel better, than generic versions of Klonopin?

 

[Emanuel Lourenco]

Why can't you get them? Dr. won't prescribe? I got some online but they were generic and expensive.

Yeah that's the issue. My doctor won't prescribe it, when I gave him a list of potential meds that could help, he straight up said they wouldn't do anything which is a lie.

I have taken Clonazepam before and it does help with the tinnitus. It reduced it a bit.

 

[Emanuel Lourenco]

You answered your own question

If it helps, I take Diazepam (Valium) some nights when I'm in a really bad place, but my Doctor advises against it as they are very addictive.

If you think you might need to take an AD quite regularly, perhaps one of the long term ones would be better? I used to take Mirtazapine, which is basically a sedative and will knock you out at night. It suppressed my Tinnitus a little bit as well. But again, everyone reacts differently. Discuss with your doctor

Thank you for your advice, the problem is the doctors where I live are never interested in helping me or finding any solution for my tinnitus.

 

[linearb]

What advantage is there in taking the name brand? Do they work in different ways, or feel better, than generic versions of Klonopin?

I have no general problem with generics, was on them for years.

Had no problem with SOLERA pills.

Got switched to ACCORD pills. Ignored this. Within days I was a sweaty anxious mess. Got on google, found tons of people complaining about these same specific generics, all within the last 2-3 months. The most dramatic story I found was "I have been on Klonopin for 10 years without problem. A week after getting switched to ACCORD I had a grand mal seizure".

Basically I think ACCORD is bottom-of-the-bucket, cheapest-in-class Chinese crap. I spoke to my doctor and pharmacist about this and neither would discount the possibility that some generics are garbage in 2019, with massive overseas labs and waning FDA oversight.

So, I will pay for the real Roche pills. They are made in Mexico, which I suppose is technically closer even if it might have some of the same issues, but, no problems like that since I switched. Also look how beautiful those pills with the cutout K are.

 

[PureNoise]

I was on a benzo daily for 3 months and in 3-4 weeks I'll be done tapering off of it. I feel it's causing me hyperacusis and that it's making me super drowsy during the day.

Hopefully any changes in my tinnitus when it gets louder during the taper aren't permanent. I feel getting off the daily benzo will help me let my tinnitus fade on its own.

 

[Emanuel Lourenco]

I was on a benzo daily for 3 months and in 3-4 weeks I'll be done tapering off of it. I feel it's causing me hyperacusis and that it's making me super drowsy during the day.

Hopefully any changes in my tinnitus when it gets louder during the taper aren't permanent. I feel getting off the daily benzo will help me let my tinnitus fade on its own.

I see man, that is exactly why I am reluctant to take it, I never used it daily for months, I used it sporadically on rough nights... I did however use Clonazepam daily for a few months and I should have probably tampered it slowly, however I have no indications that its withdrawal caused my tinnitus to become worse, at the time I noticed no difference.

 

[Tanni]

Why don't you take Mirtazapine anymore?

Because it worked too well! It was very hard to hold down a job as well as being on Mirtazapine because for me it was such a strong sedative. It also made me eat all the time. It's good for people who are very depressed and unable to function normally, ie can't sleep or eat, because it makes you able to do those things again.

Also, I'm quite slight, so someone bigger might not be affected by it in the same way, but it was too strong for me. Some people, such as Danish Girl and Drone Draper, get on really well with it.

Despite all the above, I may have to start up again because it was certainly helping with the depression/anxiety, and I can feel the difference now, so grr

 

[Tanni]

Thank you for your advice, the problem is the doctors where I live are never interested in helping me or finding any solution for my tinnitus.

No worries. Yes, I'm with you about doctors. I think because they can't cure or treat Tinnitus at the moment, they don't bother looking too much into it.

I've never had a problem getting ADs from them though - usually they realise Tinnitus can be a suicide risk and want to fill you up on pills and get you put the door! Perhaps try a different doctor if you can until you get a good one?

 

[Emanuel Lourenco]

I've never had a problem getting ADs from them though - usually they realise Tinnitus can be a suicide risk and want to fill you up on pills and get you put the door! Perhaps try a different doctor if you can until you get a good one?

That is where things are a bit different for me... once I showed a list with the name clonazepam and he almost had a fit with me saying "oh do you have any idea how serious these meds are?" and inside I am just thinking... well do you have any idea what it is like to live like this???

Anyway I have encountered so many idiotic doctors that I now have an aversion to them.

Truth is when it comes to tinnitus, Tinnitus Talk is actually much more useful than any doctor I have ever met.

 

[PeteJ]

Because it worked too well! It was very hard to hold down a job as well as being on Mirtazapine because for me it was such a strong sedative. It also made me eat all the time. It's good for people who are very depressed and unable to function normally, ie can't sleep or eat, because it makes you able to do those things again.

Also, I'm quite slight, so someone bigger might not be affected by it in the same way, but it was too strong for me. Some people, such as Danish Girl and Drone Draper, get on really well with it.

Despite all the above, I may have to start up again because it was certainly helping with the depression/anxiety, and I can feel the difference now, so grr

Thank you for the info, Tanni.
Maybe there are some vitamins or food you can take that can counteract the drowsiness? Snack on fruit and vegetables so you don't gain weight?

 

[PeteJ]

That is where things are a bit different for me... once I showed a list with the name clonazepam and he almost had a fit with me saying "oh do you have any idea how serious these meds are?" and inside I am just thinking... well do you have any idea what it is like to live like this???

Anyway I have encountered so many idiotic doctors that I now have an aversion to them.

Truth is when it comes to tinnitus, Tinnitus Talk is actually much more useful than any doctor I have ever met.

I learned that you always have to anticipate what your doctor will say and prepare a response.

I think you should have responded with exactly what you said here.

 

[Tanni]

Thank you for the info, Tanni.
Maybe there are some vitamins or food you can take that can counteract the drowsiness? Snack on fruit and vegetables so you don't gain weight?

No worries. It wasn't drowsiness during the day that was the problem - I was fine during the day. It was as soon as I took the pill at night, it knocked me out and I just couldn't wake up properly in the mornings so I was ending up late for work all the time.

If I go back on, I'll try to make sure I snack on fruit and veg a lot more. I have too much of a sweet tooth so I was eating like a pig!

 

[Cape crusader]

Don't bother with that drug.
Doesn't do squat just like everything else.

 

[Emanuel Lourenco]

Don't bother with that drug.
Doesn't do squat just like everything else.

Well I am aware it doesn't alleviate the tinnitus but it used to help me sleep.

 

[Cape crusader]

May I suggest Melatonin instead. Not as dangerous or addictive. Maybe some Magnesium Calm powder as well.

 

[Emanuel Lourenco]

May I suggest Melatonin instead. Not as dangerous or addictive. Maybe some Magnesium Calm powder as well.

I've tried melatonin and I never noticed any effect sadly...