- May 9, 2017
- 387
- Tinnitus Since
- 6/8/2016
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic trauma (go-kart racing)
I have read these posts too @Tinker Bell they make me wonder that this may be a permanent spike. It was really loud 
Can I Use These Earmuffs in MRI?
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MemberI have read these posts too @Tinker Bell they make me wonder that this may be a permanent spike. It was really loud
With respect @Apocalypse77 I believe it is stress and anxiety that is causing your spike and negative thinking. Please try to relax and forget about this. If you haven't read my post: Tinnitus and the negative mindset, please do as you might find it helpful. The link is below. Start using sound enrichment during the day and especially at night, to help desensitise your auditory system.
All the best
Michael
https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/tinnitus-and-the-negative-mindset.23705/
- May 9, 2017
- 387
- Tinnitus Since
- 6/8/2016
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic trauma (go-kart racing)
I'm most scared about waking up tomorrow. What if I have a huge spike I can't take it anymore I hate all these things I hate life I hate everything.
I can't take it anymore I hate all these things I hate life I hate everything.
And what if you wake up tomorrow and do not have a huge spike? All this worry about a potential spike and whether or not it will be permanent is not doing anything to help you improve. Do you have a therapist?I'm most scared about waking up tomorrow. What if I have a huge spike
- Feb 17, 2017
- 10,400
- Tinnitus Since
- February, 2017
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic Trauma
To understand where he is coming from, imagine if the two possibilities were "being paralyzed from the neck down" vs "getting $0.25." One outcome is horrific (especially if it is permanent). It completely overshadows the other outcome, as it should.
That is not a comparable analogy to the current scenario. A better one would be paralyzed from the neck down versus continuing to have numbness in your feet.
And, it assumes an either/or scenario. Black or white with no shades of gray. Those are not his only two possibilities. What if his tinnitus spikes for a few days but improves and goes back to its usual level?
In a scenario where you have already been exposed to loud noise, what is the benefit of worrying about whether you are going to have a permanent spike? Anxiety makes tinnitus and the perception of tinnitus worse. Continually worrying that your tinnitus is going to be worse, that every spike is permanent, has the potential to turn into a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Always assuming the worst possible outcome is catastrophizing and it's an element of anxiety.
- Feb 17, 2017
- 10,400
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- February, 2017
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic Trauma
When I do it, I am not Assuming that the worst outcome is going to materialize. It is just that in some instances, the worst outcome is so bad that no other outcomes are important.
But the same can be said for everything. Every single day there are possible horrible outcomes to our actions. If I only thought of the worst possible outcomes, I would never do anything.
Don't drive anywhere -- you could be in a car accident and become paralyzed.
Don't eat anything -- you could choke, go into a coma and end up paralyzed.
Don't take a shower or bath -- you could slip and fall and break your neck, ending up paralyzed.
And don't even use the toilet -- people are injured every year!
- Feb 17, 2017
- 10,400
- Tinnitus Since
- February, 2017
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic Trauma
These are all good points (that prove that it makes sense to ignore the worst outcome). In case of T, I believe the risk of getting a permanent spike if we are not careful is something like 1%. This is higher than the risk for the activities you listed.
Except for a car accident. The risk of severe injuries (not just paralysis) from a car accident is pretty high.
- Feb 17, 2017
- 10,400
- Tinnitus Since
- February, 2017
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic Trauma
This is true and I confess that I have been hypocritical. I love to drive, despite knowing that one's lifetime risk of dying in a car crash is close to 1%. (If you would like me to link to official sources that allow one to come up with this figure, just let me know.) I guess this risk involves young guys who drive like jackasses. So the risk for someone like me (who tries not to take risks while driving) is probably lower, while still being significant.
As they teach paramedics: serious crashes involve three collisions. First a car collides with another object, then the occupants collide with the inside of the car, and then the occupants' brains collide with the inside of their skull...
- May 9, 2017
- 387
- Tinnitus Since
- 6/8/2016
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic trauma (go-kart racing)
- Nov 25, 2015
- 1,705
- Tinnitus Since
- 11/2015
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Large caliber rifles&machine guns, +30 years of loud clubs
Whenever you need to do a MRI look for locations using either the GE silent scan or the Toshiba Pianissimo technologies - both do not go over 77db
Don't go for the older Loud MRI machines even if it means paying extra - not worth it
Don't go for the older Loud MRI machines even if it means paying extra - not worth it
- Nov 25, 2015
- 1,705
- Tinnitus Since
- 11/2015
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Large caliber rifles&machine guns, +30 years of loud clubs
- Nov 25, 2015
- 1,705
- Tinnitus Since
- 11/2015
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Large caliber rifles&machine guns, +30 years of loud clubs
I had a GE Silent Scan for two of my MRIs . . . which is why I had to have two more MRIs. The silent scan image quality was okay but it was not as good. For example, I have an area of concern on my brain that has been very obvious on MRIs for the last 10 years. It did not show up on the silent scan MRI, which seemed very odd. I mean, you can't miss the spot. It's not tiny nor hard to miss, even for my untrained eyes. Had my repeat scan, and there it was of course. For anyone with an MS concern, it's very important to not miss any potential spots like that.
And oddly, I did not think the silent scan machine was that much quieter than the other MRI machine. The techs explained to me that volume really depends on what sequence is being scanned.
Because they're not at every medical facility, perhaps due to quality. I live near a major city. I could only find one imaging clinic chain that had silent scans and they only had it at two of their locations.
- Nov 25, 2015
- 1,705
- Tinnitus Since
- 11/2015
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Large caliber rifles&machine guns, +30 years of loud clubs
well I'm due for an MRI so I start researching the subject - id happily drive accros the country to find a quiet MRI if I have too..
I will surely inspect a bunch of those in live action before setting foot inside
from what I understand, GE silent scan only did software changes to make it quieter so in some cases it still could be loud
TOSHIBA made some hardware mods and software mods so maybe its going to be better
I will surely inspect a bunch of those in live action before setting foot inside
from what I understand, GE silent scan only did software changes to make it quieter so in some cases it still could be loud
TOSHIBA made some hardware mods and software mods so maybe its going to be better
- Nov 25, 2015
- 1,705
- Tinnitus Since
- 11/2015
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Large caliber rifles&machine guns, +30 years of loud clubs
Everyone needs to chill. An MRI is NOT 125 db for 45 mins. It's spurts that break 100db with averages in the 80s and 90s. http://www.earplugstore.com/mri-safety-hearing-protection-information.html
In short - it's about as loud as a bar.
I've had at least 4 MRIs and slept through all of them.
In short - it's about as loud as a bar.
I've had at least 4 MRIs and slept through all of them.
- May 9, 2017
- 387
- Tinnitus Since
- 6/8/2016
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic trauma (go-kart racing)
My MRI was loud my doctor said I would be fine. Well I am definitely not okay, my T is louder because of this stupid MRI.
- May 9, 2017
- 387
- Tinnitus Since
- 6/8/2016
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic trauma (go-kart racing)
I am feeling so bad, there is nothing I can do. I have promised that I won't ever go to bars or any loud places, I had to take this MRI it is the only comfort I get.
- Feb 17, 2017
- 10,400
- Tinnitus Since
- February, 2017
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Acoustic Trauma
Most likely this will just be a temporary spike. Give it time, before getting depressed over it.
FounderAs a follow-up, I would like to quote @Apocalypse77 from another thread, where he posted today the following:
Quite the contrast against last week, when he felt his life was ending and the MRI spike was permanent.
A good reminder for all how spikes often (of course not always) go.
I could be better. Good news is that the spike has calmed down a little bit.
Quite the contrast against last week, when he felt his life was ending and the MRI spike was permanent.
A good reminder for all how spikes often (of course not always) go.
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