Can Some Hearing Loss Situations Recover?

[Rb86]

I have 30 dB hearing loss at 6 kHz in my left ear due to noise. The day my test was taken was when my tinnitus was the worst.

That was a month ago. Any chances for improvement?

I read 25 dB or less is considered normal for adults. I'm 33.

 

[Michael Leigh]

HI @Rb86

My advice to you is start taking Ginkgo Biloba as this can improve hearing and in some people improve tinnitus. When I first got tinnitus 23 years ago quite severe, I believed I had some difficulty hearing. My appointment at ENT was 6 months way which is not unusual unless there are additional problems with the onset of tinnitus. These are: deafness, acute pain in the ears, dizziness etc.

On the advice of a Herbalist I started taking GB and magnesium tablets. When I had my hearing test at ENT my consultant said I had above normal hearing and asked if I was taking anything. I told him Gingko Biloba and magnesium tablets on the advice of a herbalist. The ENT said this was the right thing to do and advises his tinnitus patients to do the same.

Gingko Biloba in tincture form is better than tablets as it enters the bloodstream quicker. Try and buy a good brand. Price is a usual indicator of quality. I take GB made by the company Avogel from Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=a+vogel+gingko+biloba&crid=196VPTU1GCHGO&sprefix=avogel+gin,aps,161&ref=nb_sb_ss_sc_1_10

Michael

 

[Rb86]

Ok thanks.

I took magnesium citrate the first couple weeks but I got so dehydrated I stopped.

 

[Michael Leigh]

Ok thanks.

I took magnesium citrate the first couple weeks but I got so dehydrated I stopped.

You need to take the magnesium regularly for at least 1 year preferably 2 years. When a person suffers a noise trauma and develops tinnitus with or without hyperacusis, it takes time to recover. The auditory system mainly consists of nerves. Magnesium helps repair nerves. I am not referring to the ear-hairs on the cochlea in the inner ear. As I have said, the ENT doctor advises his tinnitus patients to take Gingko Biloba and magnesium.

Hopefully someone might be able to help you with the dehydration issue.
Best of luck

Michael

 

[Rb86]

I'm just curious though, it is possible?

 

[Michael Leigh]

I'm just curious though, it is possible?

Curious of what? Please explain.

 

[Rb86]

Are there cases of NIHL being tested at onset with a certain loss, and say 6 months or so later, retested and gains made.

Mine is at 30 dB. Right in the mild area. 25 or less is normal I've read. I'm hoping I can get there over time. I'm 5 weeks in.

 

[Michael Leigh]

Are there cases of NIHL being tested at onset with a certain loss, and say 6 months or so later, retested and gains made.

@Rb86

My advice to you is not to read up too much information or research into tinnitus. The reason being it often causes worry and stress especially for someone new to the condition. Most (but not all) tinnitus veterans follow this approach. Tinnitus is enough to contend with without concerning yourself with non essential information that really is not of much benefit to you in grand scheme of things. It looks good writing this information in a forum. One comes across as if they are all knowing and knowledgeable about tinnitus. However, like most of the people that write this information on websites, have no actual experience of living with tinnitus long term.

Tinnitus is 90% mental. By this I mean the way a person is able to cope daily with it, as it as it can affect one's mental and emotional welbeing profoundly, especially when it is changeable. I will place some links below and advise you to read.

I don't know whether any tests have been carried out to determine if hearing has improved after 6 months after taking GB and magnesium. I was just relaying my experience to you. The onset of my tinnitus 23 years ago I suspected my hearing wasn't what it should have been. My appointment at ENT was 6 months away so decided to try and help myself and sought the advice of a herbalist. Fortunately, she knew about tinnitus caused by "noise trauma". In my case the result of using headphones at too high a volume like so many people. I was advised to take Gingko Biloba and magnesium and glad that I did.

As previously mentioned, my ENT doctor said my hearing was very good and when I mentioned I had been taking GB and Magnesium, he said it's something he advises all his tinnitus patients to do.

I wish you well.
Michael

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/is-positivity-important.23150/
https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/tinnitus-and-the-negative-mindset.23705/
https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/acquiring-a-positive-mindset.23969/
https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/the-habituation-process.20767/

 

[Rb86]

Thank you Michael

 

[Michael Leigh]

Thank you Michael

You are welcome
Take care

Michael

 

[Juan]

Are there cases of NIHL being tested at onset with a certain loss, and say 6 months or so later, retested and gains made.

Mine is at 30 dB. Right in the mild area. 25 or less is normal I've read. I'm hoping I can get there over time. I'm 5 weeks in.

Yes, that's possible, depending on what caused the hearing loss. How are you doing now?

 

[Rb86]

Yes, that's possible, depending on what caused the hearing loss. How are you doing now?

Still have tinnitus. And hearing loss. 11 months since onset.

 

[Juan]

Still have tinnitus. And hearing loss. 11 months since onset.

A loss of 30 dB at 6.000 Hz is not very important, it is barely hearing loss at all. I hope it does not progress. Take care!

 

[linearb]

Yes

My brother was unilaterally deaf for almost a year following a Mastodon concert; then recovered like 75% of the hearing in that ear.

Crazy fucker still won't wear plugs to shows. No tinnitus, either. Go figure!

 

[aot]

Crazy fucker still won't wear plugs to shows. No tinnitus, either. Go figure!

You would think that experince, plus a sibling with T,would make him reconsider.

 

[Juan]

Yes

My brother was unilaterally deaf for almost a year following a Mastodon concert; then recovered like 75% of the hearing in that ear.

Crazy fucker still won't wear plugs to shows. No tinnitus, either. Go figure!

Was it a spontaneous recovery?

 

[linearb]

Was it a spontaneous recovery?

he said it seemed deaf for a year and one day it didn't, but I also have the sense he was never really bothered by this and didn't pay much attention besides "well that was probably dumb". So it may have been gradual until it hit a threshold he noticed.

I have another friend who had a similar experience except his unilateral deafness was caused by a friend punching him in a contest and hitting his ear by mistake. Redneck AK-47s-in-the-woods-shooting-coors-cans shit, for sure.

 

[Nothisispatrick]

@Michael Leigh what kind of magnesium? I have magnesium glycinate something, is that good enough? I developed tinnitus about 5ish weeks ago. Sources are unknown, hearing test came back above average for my age and I just recently had a ear infection and retracted ear drum 2 weeks ago.

 

[Rb86]

A loss of 30 dB at 6.000 Hz is not very important, it is barely hearing loss at all. I hope it does not progress. Take care!

It's not heavy, however there are sounds I can hear in one ear and not the other. If the windows open at night I hear crickets in one, roll over and they're gone. That and speech recognition has gotten considerably worse.

Regardless of that, it's the tinnitus that sucks the worst.

 

[lightning]

Yes

My brother was unilaterally deaf for almost a year following a Mastodon concert; then recovered like 75% of the hearing in that ear.

Crazy fucker still won't wear plugs to shows. No tinnitus, either. Go figure!

I'm almost certain that Mastodon concerts have also played a role in my tinnitus.. Ooops. Amazing music though!

 

[Rb86]

It's not heavy, however there are sounds I can hear in one ear and not the other. If the windows open at night I hear crickets in one, roll over and they're gone. That and speech recognition has gotten considerably worse.

Regardless of that, it's the tinnitus that sucks the worst.

I said 30 dB and meant 35 dB. But whatever.

 

[leftearguy]

You need to take the magnesium regularly for at least 1 year preferably 2 years. When a person suffers a noise trauma and develops tinnitus with or without hyperacusis, it takes time to recover. The auditory system mainly consists of nerves. Magnesium helps repair nerves. I am not referring to the ear-hairs on the cochlea in the inner ear. As I have said, the ENT doctor advises his tinnitus patients to take Gingko Biloba and magnesium.

Hopefully someone might be able to help you with the dehydration issue.
Best of luck

Michael

I've read about hearing loss often being caused by the neurons in the choclea dying or becoming detached from the hair cells. Do you really think they can be regenerated by magnesium or otherwise?

 

[Contrast]

No one knows why some people recover.

 

[Michael Leigh]

I've read about hearing loss often being caused by the neurons in the choclea dying or becoming detached from the hair cells. Do you really think they can be regenerated by magnesium or otherwise?

Please read my post again. I was not referring to the hair cells that are attached to the cochlea. When I first got tinnitus in 1996, I started taking magnesium tablets and gingko biloba on the advice of a herbalist who knew about the affects noise induced tinnitus can have on the auditory system. She said the auditory system consists mainly of nerves and explained, taking magnesium and GB would help my hearing and repair never damage caused by the noise trauma. She was not referring to hair cells on the cochlea. When I was seen at ENT 6 months later, my doctor was impressed at my hearing was so good and asked if I was taking anything? I explained about the Ginkgo biloba and magnesium. He praised the herbalist and said, it's something the advises all his tinnitus patients to take.

Michael

 

[Michael Leigh]

@Michael Leigh what kind of magnesium? I have magnesium glycinate something, is that good enough? I developed tinnitus about 5ish weeks ago. Sources are unknown, hearing test came back above average for my age and I just recently had a ear infection and retracted ear drum 2 weeks ago.

HI @Nothisispatrick

I took magnesium citrate but I suppose any type will help. I had noise induced tinnitus and was advised to take magnesium and gingko biloba. My ENT doctor said this was a good idea and something he advises his tinnitus patients to take.

Michael

 

[Bartoli]

No one knows why some people recover.

Have you seen this? Might explain why people seem to "heal".

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378595513002104