Can You Help Me "Crack the Code" of Tinnitus Reduction?

[JasonP]

Okay, after hearing some things on here it seems there is some interesting things going on. For some, things that are Central Nervous System depressants help with tinnitus, but in others they increase tinnitus. Some CNS stimulants make things worse for people yet does no effect in others. Some anticonvulsants help but not with others. Some anti-depressants lower T while doing nothing for others and in others it increases T. It seems like though after time, these become less effective, stop working, or increase T. Withdrawal can also cause T or in some lessen T. It seems like all these drugs affect the CNS and my guess is hormones. I would like to put a list of a few things that seemed to have helped or hurt people:

CNS depressants:

Alcohol
Benzo's (Xanax, Klonopin, etc.)
Sleeping drugs such as Lunesta, Ambien

CNS stimulants:

Caffeine
Amphetamines

Anticonvulsants that I believe can have a side effect of relaxation:

Neurontin
Trileptal
Tegretol
Lyrica

Anticonvulsants that I believe have an antidepressant or energizing effect:

Lamictal

Anticonvulsant:

Trobalt

Mood Stabilizers:

Lithium which has an antidepressant effect
(Lamictal could also go here as well)
(In my opinion) Omega 3 fatty acids which can have an anti-depressant effect

Not sure how to classify:

Melatonin which has a calming effect or a depressant effect
Darkness which can have a calming effect or a depressant effect
Light which can have a energizing or anti-depressant effect
Cardio Exercise
NAC
Magnesium
Stress
Women's periods (hormones changing)
Certain foods

Can't quite figure out:

Sleep- which seems to be energizing for some to wake up from or makes other people depressed or very tired upon waking. Upon waking some people have lower T while others have louder T and others no difference.

There are others but this is just a few examples. If you think I am wrong, please let me know and correct me.

Keep in mind, there can be paradoxical effects with some of these drugs. For example, someone with ADHD is given stimulants to calm down and focus. Sometimes alcohol (a CNS depressant) can make people happy. It seems like there is some kind of hormonal thing going on that effects T in some people. Can some kind of hormonal "target range" be reached that would minimize tinnitus on a long term basis and if so, how?

 

[undecided]

I think your best bet is getting a woman's period.

 

[Tim Hogan]

There aren't any drugs that help Tinnitus, only drugs that calm the body down so you don't freak out as much thus perceive it less.

 

[JasonP]

There aren't any drugs that help Tinnitus, only drugs that calm the body down so you don't freak out as much thus perceive it less.

I disagree. While drugs may do that I have taken some things that have actually lowered it but upon continuous use something happened and changed things but it seems like things can be reversed as well. Its hard though to get unmaskable tinnitus to go away though. It seems like maskable tinnitus can be reduced though or at least the kind of tinnitus that goes away with residual inhibition at least in my case.

 

[Dana]

I think your best bet is getting a woman's period.

It doesn'T help.

 

[JasonP]

Okay, after hearing some things on here it seems there is some interesting things going on. For some, things that are Central Nervous System depressants help with tinnitus, but in others they increase tinnitus. Some CNS stimulants make things worse for people yet does no effect in others. Some anticonvulsants help but not with others. Some anti-depressants lower T while doing nothing for others and in others it increases T. It seems like though after time, these become less effective, stop working, or increase T. Withdrawal can also cause T or in some lessen T. It seems like all these drugs affect the CNS and my guess is hormones. I would like to put a list of a few things that seemed to have helped or hurt people:

CNS depressants:

Alcohol
Benzo's (Xanax, Klonopin, etc.)
Sleeping drugs such as Lunesta, Ambien

CNS stimulants:

Caffeine
Amphetamines

Anticonvulsants that I believe can have a side effect of relaxation:

Neurontin
Trileptal
Tegretol
Lyrica

Anticonvulsants that I believe have an antidepressant or energizing effect:

Lamictal

Anticonvulsant:

Trobalt

Mood Stabilizers:

Lithium which has an antidepressant effect
(Lamictal could also go here as well)
(In my opinion) Omega 3 fatty acids which can have an anti-depressant effect

Not sure how to classify:

Melatonin which has a calming effect or a depressant effect
Darkness which can have a calming effect or a depressant effect
Light which can have a energizing or anti-depressant effect
Cardio Exercise
NAC
Magnesium
Stress
Women's periods (hormones changing)
Certain foods

Can't quite figure out:

Sleep- which seems to be energizing for some to wake up from or makes other people depressed or very tired upon waking. Upon waking some people have lower T while others have louder T and others no difference.

There are others but this is just a few examples. If you think I am wrong, please let me know and correct me.

Keep in mind, there can be paradoxical effects with some of these drugs. For example, someone with ADHD is given stimulants to calm down and focus. Sometimes alcohol (a CNS depressant) can make people happy. It seems like there is some kind of hormonal thing going on that effects T in some people. Can some kind of hormonal "target range" be reached that would minimize tinnitus on a long term basis and if so, how?

I almost forgot:

Sugar

Sugar is well documented to have an effect on hormones.

In summary I really think there can be a hormone connection between tinnitus loudness. Probably not with everyone but I would think quite a few.

 

[Jkph75]

I totally agree. I think that there is a hormonal connection. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like the medical community is especially interested in this.

 

[Alue]

I'm especially interested in sodium and potassium ion channels and their effect on tinnitus. I wish I knew more about neurochemistry, but from my understanding potassium ion channels have a calming effect on neurons and sodium channels have an excitatory effect on neurons. Could that explain why Trobalt reduces tinnitus and high dietary sodium sometimes causes a spike in tinnitus?

 

[JasonP]

I'm especially interested in sodium and potassium ion channels and their effect on tinnitus. I wish I knew more about neurochemistry, but from my understanding potassium ion channels have a calming effect on neurons and sodium channels have an excitatory effect on neurons. Could that explain why Trobalt reduces tinnitus and high dietary sodium sometimes causes a spike in tinnitus?

That is an interesting point, but will that keep reducing T if a person keeps taking it for a long period of time?

 

[undecided]

I'm especially interested in sodium and potassium ion channels and their effect on tinnitus. I wish I knew more about neurochemistry, but from my understanding potassium ion channels have a calming effect on neurons and sodium channels have an excitatory effect on neurons. Could that explain why Trobalt reduces tinnitus and high dietary sodium sometimes causes a spike in tinnitus?

Could be there is a balance between potassium, sodium (and to some extent, calcium) that keeps tinnitus at bay. That balance gets disturbed, for whatever reason, you get tinnitus...

 

[JasonP]

Here is another thought. Is perfect balance needed or does it need to be just a tiny bit off balance in a certain direction as compared to normal?

 

[Alue]

That is an interesting point, but will that keep reducing T if a person keeps taking it for a long period of time?

If hyperactivity of the auditory nerves are the cause of the T, probably. What I don't understand is how a few people had a lasting reduction after discontinuing. Perhaps it reversed some of the initial neuroplasticity?

I really wish more neurologists would take interest in tinnitus.

 

[Dana]

Hard to imagine a "perfect balance".

 

[JasonP]

If hyperactivity of the auditory nerves are the cause of the T, probably. What I don't understand is how a few people had a lasting reduction after discontinuing. Perhaps it reversed some of the initial neuroplasticity?

I really wish more neurologists would take interest in tinnitus.

Interesting...so people actually had a permanent reduction in T after they quit? Do you know if this has been documented to last more than a year?

 

[Alue]

Interesting...so people actually had a permanent reduction in T after they quit? Do you know if this has been documented to last more than a year?

More than a year, I don't think so. It's only been a few people, most don't seem to report any lasting reduction. @attheedgeofscience reported one in his success story, but if I recall that is fairly recent.

It's unfortunate that drug has such nasty potential side effects.

 

[JasonP]

Hard to imagine a "perfect balance".

More than a year, I don't think so. It's only been a few people, most don't seem to report any lasting reduction. @attheedgeofscience reported one in his success story, but if I recall that is fairly recent.

It's unfortunate that drug has such nasty potential side effects.

Have you guys noticed feeling worse when your posture is bad or neck is too forward even while laying down on a pillow? I was reading how bad posture can affect hormones such as cortisol and testosterone and also affect circulation.

In addition water is very important to proper body function.