Cilcare's CIL001 Targets Cochlear Synaptopathy — An American/French Collaboration

Thanks for sharing. I'll keep an eye out for sign-ups for the clinics in France and Germany.

Are there any other members here who would potentially be interested in signing up?
If there's one in the UK, what have I got to lose? Another 10 to 20 years as a hermit with an aching, hissing ear while I wait for it to come to market?
 
How would targeting cochlear synaptopathy "fix" tinnitus?
Well, presumably the brain will have to adapt to its restored hearing and might decide at that point that the tinnitus sound is no longer necessary — or perhaps integrate the new audio into that pathway.

But it's anyone's guess, really, isn't it? For all we know, it could make everything worse since it's never been done in humans before.
 
I have been in contact with the researcher; however, I'm a little reluctant. Intratympanic injections are no longer seen as the best route to the cochlea. All trials using this method have failed, with companies often blaming the lack of permeability.

Many institutions are now moving away from this approach and have discovered new proprietary routes.
 
I have been in contact with the researcher; however, I'm a little reluctant. Intratympanic injections are no longer seen as the best route to the cochlea. All trials using this method have failed, with companies often blaming the lack of permeability.

Many institutions are now moving away from this approach and have discovered new proprietary routes.
I'm relatively new to all this, so forgive me if I'm totally off base, but even if it fails to pass through the round window and restore synaptopathy, since neurotrophin-3 has CNS potential, might this still potentially help with some types of noxacusis caused by middle ear damage?
 
I have been in contact with the researcher; however, I'm a little reluctant. Intratympanic injections are no longer seen as the best route to the cochlea. All trials using this method have failed, with companies often blaming the lack of permeability.

Many institutions are now moving away from this approach and have discovered new proprietary routes.
Is it known whether they're also exploring other forms of administration?
 
I have been in contact with the researcher; however, I'm a little reluctant. Intratympanic injections are no longer seen as the best route to the cochlea. All trials using this method have failed, with companies often blaming the lack of permeability.

Many institutions are now moving away from this approach and have discovered new proprietary routes.
That really is something the guys and gals in white coats need to figure out. I recall one research group mentioning that their drug had difficulty accessing the lower frequencies of the cochlea. Kind of fundamental, don't you think? It's like saying, "We have the wonder drug, but we can't deliver it."
 
I have been in contact with the researcher; however, I'm a little reluctant. Intratympanic injections are no longer seen as the best route to the cochlea. All trials using this method have failed, with companies often blaming the lack of permeability.

Many institutions are now moving away from this approach and have discovered new proprietary routes.
I hope they share these new routes of delivery.
 
How would targeting cochlear synaptopathy "fix" tinnitus?
Tinnitus is caused by cochlear synaptopathy.

For example, if you go to a club without earplugs, the loud music can damage cochlear synapses, destroying many of them. As a result, your hair cells still pick up sound, but there are far fewer synapses to receive and process the sound information. It is like a damaged microphone that cannot pick up sound properly.

To compensate for the loss of sound clarity and reduced signal input, your central nervous system increases central gain in an attempt to restore normal hearing levels. However, in the process of turning up central gain, tinnitus develops—just like how turning up the gain too high on a sound system to compensate for a poor-quality microphone would create buzzing and ringing. This also leads to a loss of sound clarity and fidelity.

If Cilcare's drug worked, it would restore sound input, allowing central gain to return to normal levels. As a result, hearing would improve with better clarity and fidelity, and the ringing would go away. That is why targeting cochlear synaptopathy could potentially fix tinnitus.
Well, presumably the brain will have to adapt to its restored hearing and might decide at that point that the tinnitus sound is no longer necessary — or perhaps integrate the new audio into that pathway.

But it's anyone's guess, really, isn't it? For all we know, it could make everything worse since it's never been done in humans before.
No, it could not make everything worse. If the synapses were regenerated, it could only lead to improvement—better sound fidelity and clarity, increased sound input, and less or no tinnitus and hyperacusis.
 

The brain scientist linked above conducted a comparative study on the brains of London taxi drivers and other groups, such as bus drivers. The study revealed that taxi drivers, who had to memorize not only street names and locations but also how they were interconnected, had much larger hippocampi than bus drivers, who only needed to memorize a single route, or the average person.

Perhaps a comparative study on the brains of patients with tinnitus, hyperacusis, hearing loss or deafness, and misophonia—or some combination of these—could reveal new insights.

It would also be valuable to examine the brains of healthy children, adolescents, and young adults for comparison.
Tinnitus is caused by cochlear synaptopathy.

For example, if you go to a club without earplugs, the loud music can damage cochlear synapses, destroying many of them. As a result, your hair cells still pick up sound, but there are far fewer synapses to receive and process the sound information. It is like a damaged microphone that cannot pick up sound properly.

To compensate for the loss of sound clarity and reduced signal input, your central nervous system increases central gain in an attempt to restore normal hearing levels. However, in the process of turning up central gain, tinnitus develops—just like how turning up the gain too high on a sound system to compensate for a poor-quality microphone would create buzzing and ringing. This also leads to a loss of sound clarity and fidelity.

If Cilcare's drug worked, it would restore sound input, allowing central gain to return to normal levels. As a result, hearing would improve with better clarity and fidelity, and the ringing would go away. That is why targeting cochlear synaptopathy could potentially fix tinnitus.

No, it could not make everything worse. If the synapses were regenerated, it could only lead to improvement—better sound fidelity and clarity, increased sound input, and less or no tinnitus and hyperacusis.
Ha! It is all about the flow.

Just like plumbing! 😉

To restore the water supply, first, you make sure the connection to the water main is working. Then, check if there is water in the tank. You have to make sure the faucet is not blocked, and so on.

Once everything is in order, you are good to go!

Or, for that matter, it is just like fixing the electrics.
 
Tinnitus is caused by cochlear synaptopathy.

For example, if you go to a club without earplugs, the loud music can damage cochlear synapses, destroying many of them. As a result, your hair cells still pick up sound, but there are far fewer synapses to receive and process the sound information. It is like a damaged microphone that cannot pick up sound properly.

To compensate for the loss of sound clarity and reduced signal input, your central nervous system increases central gain in an attempt to restore normal hearing levels. However, in the process of turning up central gain, tinnitus develops—just like how turning up the gain too high on a sound system to compensate for a poor-quality microphone would create buzzing and ringing. This also leads to a loss of sound clarity and fidelity.

If Cilcare's drug worked, it would restore sound input, allowing central gain to return to normal levels. As a result, hearing would improve with better clarity and fidelity, and the ringing would go away. That is why targeting cochlear synaptopathy could potentially fix tinnitus.

No, it could not make everything worse. If the synapses were regenerated, it could only lead to improvement—better sound fidelity and clarity, increased sound input, and less or no tinnitus and hyperacusis.
Tinnitus and hyperacusis do not always originate from the ears. The thalamus is also involved, for your information.
 
No, it could not make everything worse. If the synapses were regenerated, it could only lead to improvement—better sound fidelity and clarity, increased sound input, and less or no tinnitus and hyperacusis.
I was just being a little facetious, sorry! 🙂

Although, if their drug does not work as intended in trials, I suppose that could make things worse.
 
I did not know the cause of subjective tinnitus and hyperacusis had been definitively identified. That is great to hear! Hopefully, we will be saved from this terrible condition soon.
 
I have been following regenerative approaches since 2016 and have observed many developments. The same applies to Dr. Susan Shore and other approaches specifically for tinnitus management.

Past hearing regeneration efforts discussed on Tinnitus Talk, like Frequency Therapeutics and others, focused on singular objectives, primarily targeting either IHC and OHC (inner and outer hair cells) or synapses.

For example, Frequency Therapeutics' approach focused on regenerating IHC and OHC by proliferating supporting cells, but it did not address synapse regeneration. Additionally, the regenerated IHC and OHC sometimes grew irregularly, although I am unsure how significant that issue is.

To illustrate, you can compare IHC and OHC to car parking sensors. If your parking sensor malfunctions, your car's computer shows a warning. Similarly, if the wiring harness is cut or unplugged, the computer generates an alert. I believe something similar happens with hearing and tinnitus. When the brain senses it has lost connection to the "parking sensors" (IHC and OHC), it cannot determine the exact cause but generates a warning signal—tinnitus.

If we ever aim to address the root causes of most hearing loss and tinnitus, such as SSHL (sudden sensorineural hearing loss), SNHL (sensorineural hearing loss), NIHL (noise induced hearing loss), or ototoxicity from drugs, we must repair both IHC and OHC as well as synapses.

I recall seeing a theory suggesting that tinnitus could often arise more from the loss of synapses than from IHC and OHC damage.

If this company only focuses on repairing synapses, it might reconnect missing synapses to still-functioning IHC and OHC, which could bring some benefits. However, in my opinion, it would not fully resolve the problem. That said, if someone loses synapses while their IHC and OHC remain somewhat functional, this drug, if effective, could have practical benefits.

Another researcher worth mentioning is Dr. Zheng Yi Chen, who is rarely discussed. As I understand it, his team's research does not focus solely on IHC and OHC repair or synapse repair. It addresses both.

I watched a 2023 interview where Dr. Chen discussed his research and mentioned two areas of focus:
  1. Genetic hearing loss (people born deaf)

    His team identified specific genes that were not functioning properly and conducted a small proof of concept trial in Shanghai (late 2023 to early 2024) involving six children born deaf. Remarkably, five out of the six regained hearing. This differs from typical hearing loss because individuals born deaf lack functional IHC and OHC, which prevents them from generating electrical signals in response to sound vibrations. This progress is groundbreaking and had never been achieved before.

  2. Acquired hearing loss (e.g., SNHL, NIHL, ototoxicity)

    For acquired hearing loss, Dr. Chen's approach involves gene therapy. He described it as "turning the clock backward" in the inner ear by tricking it into a developmental stage. This process activates dormant genes and enables the ear to rebuild missing structures based on the DNA blueprint.
His team conducted proof-of-concept tests on lab mice and wild mice. In his words, "it worked beautifully." If I remember correctly, the repair cycle took about four to six weeks, similar to the speed at which birds regenerate their hearing.

Despite this success, Dr. Chen mentioned challenges they were addressing, such as the delivery method. For example, precise inner ear injections currently require cutting behind the ear. Additionally, while the viral vector used for the tests was effective, it was not ideal. They are already developing a better and safer viral vector for future use.

Apologies for the lengthy post, but I wanted to outline everything clearly. This company may be the only one nearing clinical trials in the short term, but other promising advancements could be on the horizon.
This was a great post. I had never heard of Dr. Zheng Yi Chen or his research before.

I also watched an interview from 2023, but I only noticed him discussing hair cells, not synapses. Correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe I need to watch the video again.
 
Does anyone know if they have finished the Phase 2a trial?

I have Turner syndrome, which slowly affects my hearing. I have sensorineural hearing loss, mild in the middle tones and moderately severe in the high pitches. I am getting tested again on Wednesday.

If this could help someone like me, that would be amazing! Any information is appreciated.
 
Does anyone know if they have finished the Phase 2a trial?

I have Turner syndrome, which slowly affects my hearing. I have sensorineural hearing loss, mild in the middle tones and moderately severe in the high pitches. I am getting tested again on Wednesday.

If this could help someone like me, that would be amazing! Any information is appreciated.
Phase II trials are set to begin at the end of this year. I'm not familiar with Turner syndrome, but I would assume repeated applications of the drug would be necessary even if it proves effective.

I believe the primary target here is hidden hearing loss, focusing more on clarity than range, though it may offer some additional benefits. However, I have a hunch that its impact will be mild compared to an intra-cochlear stem cell application like Rinri, which I believe is working on nerve regeneration and, eventually, hair cells—assuming their approach is successful.
 
Does anyone know if they have finished the Phase 2a trial?

I have Turner syndrome, which slowly affects my hearing. I have sensorineural hearing loss, mild in the middle tones and moderately severe in the high pitches. I am getting tested again on Wednesday.

If this could help someone like me, that would be amazing! Any information is appreciated.
From what I gathered from their site, Phase 2a hasn't started yet.

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The most likely timeframe for clinical availability is 2030 to 2033, but this is speculative and depends on the progress of Cilcare's clinical program.
 
Spectacular at 8 years old is absurd. I'm using Google Translate, so if it doesn't translate well, someone let me know. Although, if we are going to stop aging from 2032 onwards, I don't care so much anymore.
 
From what I gathered from their site, Phase 2a hasn't started yet.

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Cilcare provides more details on its website about how the trials for CIL-001 will proceed. The Phase 2a trials are divided into three distinct studies, each focusing on a different patient group. However, the goal and method remain the same: treating cochlear synaptopathy with intratympanic injection.
  • The first one focuses on type 2 diabetes patients, beginning in late 2025
  • The second one is dedicated to patients with Alzheimer's and Parkinson's diseases
  • The third and last one revolves around tinnitus patients
The second and last trials will only start in 2026.

(Apologies if my post is redundant and this information was given in someone else's post)
 

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