Does Anyone Still Use Power Tools?

[New Guy]

This is one thing I like about road trips - if you drive long enough, you know you will reach your destination.

I love road trips too. It's not about the destination but the journey for me. I prefer to take the road less traveled. I notice I literally zone out while driving, perhaps it's some form of mindfulness. My mind finds some kind of deep thought without consciously working on it. I just noticed I logged over 8000 miles on my car since May. I've been doing a lot of driving.

 

[AZeurotuner]

I don't Push anything. I am informing them that there is another way that might work better for them, given that they have tinnitus.

Trust me

You know Mr. Bauer, I can't say I've ever read an informative article that used phrases such as the one that I quoted.

 

[Bill Bauer]

You know Mr. Bauer, I can't say I've ever read an informative article that used phrases such as the one that I quoted.

In one of your earlier posts directed at me, you used the F word (the moderators had deleted the post). Earlier today, you made a personal attack (not sure if a moderator had deleted that one, or if you realized that it provided more information about you than about me, and edited the post). I can't recall any informative articles I got to read that had swear words and personal attacks in them.

Out of curiosity, what's wrong with

I don't Push anything. I am informing them that there is another way that might work better for them, given that they have tinnitus.

why wouldn't you expect an informative article to have words to this effect?

"Trust me" is a figure of speech, used all over the place, by the way. Perhaps the problem is that people don't use it as much in the UK.

 

[kelpiemsp]

The elevated DBs are probably because you are measuring indoor. Usually when they measure a power tool's DB they are doing it in an open environment where the sound can escape. It's usually measured a few feet above the tool as well. They assume your head isn't right next to it.

I use power tools quite frequently. I wear protection, obvi. I use solid muffs for non cutting power tools. For tools that are very shrill, I double up.

Read this study for accurate assessment of the real loudness of a tool. Start on PDF page 22 or report page 15 http://etd.fcla.edu/UF/UFE0004882/callahan_g.pdf

 

[kelpiemsp]

Trust me, nothing bad will happen if you mow it once at the start of July, and once at the start of September.

I'm not sure where you live...but in the heartland of the US we get big fines for grass over 8 inches. I'd guess it takes about 2 weeks to get that high and the grass season is probably 6 months long. For some, this creates a real problem.
I moved to an all electric mower that runs around 70DB, but the struggle is real.

 

[AZeurotuner]

In one of your earlier posts directed at me, you used the F word (the moderators had deleted the post). Earlier today, you made a personal attack (not sure if a moderator had deleted that one, or if you realized that it provided more information about you than about me, and edited the post). I can't recall any informative articles I got to read that had swear words and personal attacks in them.

Did it make you sad when I used the "F word"?

why wouldn't you expect an informative article to have words to this effect?

"Trust me" is a figure of speech, used all over the place, by the way. Perhaps the problem is that people don't use it as much in the UK.

"Trust me" is a phrase used in persuasive writing, a much different literary style than informative. Informative writing states only facts, and leaves the reader to draw their own conclusions.

Also, I'm not from the UK, I'm from Tucson, Arizona...

 

[Bill Bauer]

we get big fines for grass over 8 inches

I will have to double check, but my guess is that by the time my grass gets mowed, it is about 8 inches (so it grows about 8 inches in 2 months). Could it be that your grass grows faster because it receives more water than my grass?

 

[Bill Bauer]

Did it make you sad when I used the "F word"?

That's what gave me a mental image of you as that Ali G character.

is a phrase used in persuasive writing, a much different literary style than informative. Informative writing states only facts, and leaves the reader to draw their own conclusions.

None of the papers I had submitted to journals contain the words "trust me." This is an internet forum, so I figured it was ok to relax a bit, but perhaps I was wrong.

I'm not from the UK, I'm from Tucson, Arizona

It's a cool area. I like it a lot.

 

[AZeurotuner]

That's what gave me a mental image of you as that Ali G character.

None of the papers I had submitted to journals contain the words "trust me." This is an internet forum, so I figured it was ok to relax a bit, but perhaps I was wrong.

It's a cool area. I like it a lot.

That's irrelevant though, you didn't say that your journals were informative, you said your posts on this exact thread were.

I'm not a movie actor Mr. Bauer, but if I was, I'd be more Samuel L. Jackson than Ali G. I absolutely attacked you, and I would never try to claim such as being "informative". I lost my cool, period, and have enough self awareness to admit that.

 

[kelpiemsp]

I will have to double check, but my guess is that by the time my grass gets mowed, it is about 8 inches (so it grows about 8 inches in 2 months). Could it be that your grass grows faster because it receives more water than my grass?

I'm about 4-5 inches per week. Range is 2-6 but things are only getting hotter and wetter.

 

[Bill Bauer]

informative, you said your posts on this exact thread were.

It is possible to both provide information and be informal at the same time.

 

[AZeurotuner]

It is possible to both provide information and be informal at the same time.

Yes, but as soon as you add persuasion into the mix you're definitely not just informing people anymore, you're trying to push your own agenda.

An agenda that is very extreme, deviating far away from reasonable, to the point where you protect yourself from scanner beeps. This is no way to live, even for you Bill. I understand that there is a risk to attending social gatherings, and that you, being a man that doesn't particularly enjoy human company, isn't really suffering much from abstaining.

However, it's quite apparent that noise is a huge source of fear for you, to the point where you can't even enjoy a hot shower without placing earplugs in. If you're being honest with yourself Bill, there's no way you can enjoy living your whole life walking on eggshells, worrying constantly about "spikes" and permanent increases.

Get some help man, and I don't mean that in a pejorative sense.

 

[Bill Bauer]

you're trying to push your own agenda.

Agenda? What's it in it for me, if I get people to protect their ears (besides the knowledge that their chance of healing will be higher and chance of getting hurt will be lower)?

 

[Bill Bauer]

way you can enjoy living your whole life walking on eggshells

Here is today's post that provides a confirmation to me that "my way" makes sense

After a sound exposure this past May, my tinnitus worsened,

 

[AZeurotuner]

Here is today's post that provides a confirmation to me that "my way" makes sense

By that logic you should also stop driving, flying, crossing the street or walking near traffic, using electrical devices, etc. You might as well just stay inside of your house and never come out because the world is an inherently dangerous place.

And how do you know that living "my way" caused that increase? What do you even think living "my way" is? Shooting off Ak-47s, going to nightclubs, and attending rock concerts? My way is a reasonable one, a grey area so to speak, almost nothing in life is black and white, yet oddly so many people see it that way.

The user has only one post and doesn't elaborate on the cause of their said increase, your making an assumptionand treating it as fact.

 

[Emperor-Drax]

By that logic you should also stop driving, flying, crossing the street or walking near traffic, using electrical devices, etc. You might as well just stay inside of your house and never come out because the world is an inherently dangerous place.

Sounds like a potential case of agoraphobia.

 

[Bill Bauer]

Sounds like a potential case of agoraphobia.

Who are you talking about? Some imaginary person in his fantasies?

 

[Emperor-Drax]

@AZeurotuner as Ali G? He doesn't really come across as a chav. Not yet at least.