I was chatting to someone about my tinnitus I get bad in the morning and it slightly disappears in the afternoon and I posted a video of what my tinnitus sounds like. Anyway when I let this person listen to the video he tells me he hears nothing but silence. Now this has got me wondering about my hearing and why me and people on the comments can hear the sound but other people cannot hear it.
Dog Whistle Test
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I can see why you want to protect your ears, as I can hear all of the video. Feel for you man.
- Jun 26, 2014
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I've suffered from tinnitus for 10 years and have tried most treatments. I'm now trying ozone therapy. There have been good reviews regarding this. Check it out on Google. I've also just downloaded an app on my phone that helps mask the terrible hissing sound in my left ear. I'm hoping.....
Post if it's works as I have a dreadful hissing sound in my left ear :-( I know I am not going to habituate to it as its too invasive
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This is the same sound I have in my head. I have to increase the volume a lot to hear it.
T most often occurs on the frequency where you have hearing loss. So you can hear T on a frequency of 15 kHz, but not the same sound from outside. Some time ago I played a dog whistle to someone and she (70 years old) said: "I cannot hear anything, so where do you have a problem with?" Makes you look like an idiot.
This is the same sound I have in my head. I have to increase the volume a lot to hear it.
T most often occurs on the frequency where you have hearing loss. So you can hear T on a frequency of 15 kHz, but not the same sound from outside. Some time ago I played a dog whistle to someone and she (70 years old) said: "I cannot hear anything, so where do you have a problem with?" Makes you look like an idiot.
- Aug 21, 2014
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Similar to my most typical tinnitus frequency (it jumps around), hence the username.
Is anyone else intensely bothered by those devices they sometimes install around public promenade areas to keep teenagers from loitering? I'm 32 but I can hear them like knives stabbing my ears.
Is anyone else intensely bothered by those devices they sometimes install around public promenade areas to keep teenagers from loitering? I'm 32 but I can hear them like knives stabbing my ears.
Ah, I see. Don't think we have any here. I went on youtube and I can hear that sound lol
I see you're in England. According to Wikipedia, "In the UK, over 3,000 have been sold, mainly for use outside shops and near transport hubs." Although there may not be any exactly where you live. But it seems that the public sense of controversy surrounding these devices is greatest in the UK.
Personally, I've done some amateur testing on myself and I believe I can hear as high as 18,500 hz, if the volume is loud enough. I remember when I was a teenager I could hear up to 19,000. I can't explain why my upper threshold has diminished so little by age 32, compared to other people. A tinnitus specialist I saw believes that my brain is simply hypersensitive and hyper-aware of all stimuli. He told me my brain is "missing a filter" that other people have, and that's the reason I have tinnitus, in his opinion.
Ah, that's quite different. To be honest all tinnitus sufferers will have some hearing loss, even if it's hidden hearing loss. And the tinnitus we hear is represented as sound by hyperactive neurons, even if you were deaf you would still hear tinnitus, hearing doesn't matter. Tinnitus is a brain problem first and foremost.
I used to agree with this, but I'm not so sure anymore. This tinnitus specialist I saw is a hardcore TRT guy. I can confirm that he strongly believes that hearing loss is _not_ an absolute prerequisite for tinnitus. When I brought up the subject of "dead hair cells," he shocked me by interjecting that he doesn't believe I have any dead hair cells whatsoever. He doesn't even believe that my ears ever experienced any injury. He tells me that something probably "changed," and that I should not interpret his word "change" as a synonym for "injury." He said the change was probably so insignificant and minor (e.g. some hair cells changing position by 5 degrees), but because of the nature of brain and my personality type, my brain pounced on that change like an attack dog and reports it to me as my tinnitus sound.
Personally I wouldn't listen to a TRT specialist ever...I would go and see an neurologist. I hope you never paid much to see this charlatan.
I did not pay much, and I do have my doubts. I'm curious, why do you believe TRT is a farce?
Also, I've thought about seeing a neurologist, but I'm not sure what they could even do. Until we have the technology to micro-image the inside of a living person's cochlea, and to be able to watch data being transmitted over a specific neuron in vivo, I feel like doctors are just guessing.
Mate...I know people who have just a skin graft in their ear and no cochlea so you are misinformed.
Many treatment options are tried, most with limited success. They range from drugs affecting the central nervous system to electrical treatments and auditory and cognitive behavioural therapies.
Research shows that tinnitus arises within the central nervous system, and may be caused by increased neural activity in regions of central auditory pathway. Thus treatments for tinnitus need to focus on targets within the brain, and not the cochlea.
Autifony is developing a novel drug, AUT00063, that may help to treat people with some types of tinnitus, in particular tinnitus associated with hearing loss following noise exposure or ageing. The first clinical trial to explore the possible efficacy of AUT00063 in people with tinnitus has now started and is recruiting in the UK. For more information see our
Also, epilepsy medication has been proven to work for tinnitus sufferers. TRT can't reduce tinnitus, these meds can. Also, I have managed to cure my hyperacusis and reduce tinnitus by 80% using trobalt and keppra; TRT can't do that.
I have T loud enough in my left ear to drown out your voice. I have perfect hearing in both ears (my T comes in bursts). Also I can hear the dog whistle. Doesn't bother me in the slightest perhaps because my T is a different sound.
- Jun 26, 2014
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What does your audigram look like? sounds like you have a lot of hearing loss in your left ear? How can you have perfect hearing if you hear T over voice? i would get your hearing checked.
The T is not constant. It is sporadic. Between the T ... Spasms? I don't know what to call them, my hearing is fine. There is no hearing loss, only that when the T comes on its so loud it drowns other noise out.
- Aug 21, 2014
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This sounds like "tone bursts" or "fleeting tinnitus", which is a poorly understood but relatively common occurrence, even among healthy people without chronic tinnitus. However, it seems like 'normal' people experience this in the range of "once every few weeks" to "once or twice a day", but not "all the time".
How often does this happen to you?
- Aug 21, 2014
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Lots of people report that their hearing has gotten worse over time but the tinnitus has not -- obviously not everyone is so lucky, but, the fact that a lot of people have that experience shows how adaptable the brain is...
Is the soundclip on wikipedia really 17.4 khz because I could hear it clearly and I do have some hearing loss at 16 khz. No one tests above that lol.
- Aug 21, 2014
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The ability of your speakers to accurately reproduce > 15khz waveforms depends a lot on the quality of those speakers and of your audio processor. I have a relatively nice set of headphones, and I know that when I push them up to about 18kHZ I start to get a bunch of sound artifacts that are in frequencies a lot lower than that.
What I'm hearing is a clear pure tone that is very strident/annoying. I'm using a pair of AudioTechnica ATH-M50X. I have no way to analyze the signal to see if it really is 17.4 khz. I doubt it though it very much though. It sounds like something in between 8-10 khz.
Sporadically all day and night. It lasts for seconds or up to two minutes at a time. It stops for seconds or on good days up to five minutes or really wonderful days which are rare it could stop for up to an hour.
But it is not the T itself which makes life difficult. It is the accompanying bouncing shaking vision and head vibrating and losing balance and spatial awareness.
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