Effects of Long-Term Cardio Exercise vs. Short-Term Exercise on Tinnitus?

[JasonP]

Okay, so here is my question. In the short term, exercise seems to increase my tinnitus a bit for a short time afterwards. My question is though, after long term cardio exercise, can this reduce my T? Anyone have this happen?

 

[Starthrower]

Hi JasonP!

You ask interesting questions. I am an avid runner averaging abut 6 miles a day. I used to run on the beach but changed my routine to a gym treadmill. I run in the early morning and it started being unsafe for a female alone on the strand in my beach area.

Short term or not this does not seem to affect my tinnitus level. But the exercise makes me feel so much better every day. I get the adrenaline high and it helps with my down mental feeling do to tinnitus.

I think to answer your question, it does help the tinnitus, because it helps ease the stress and mental state in my body.

 

[Michael Leigh]

Okay, so here is my question. In the short term, exercise seems to increase my tinnitus a bit for a short time afterwards. My question is though, after long term cardio exercise, can this reduce my T? Anyone have this happen?

Running on hard ground or on a treatmill can make tinnitus worse for some people. Many people have contacted me about this and there is information on the Internet about running and tinnitus. I use an elliptical machine and have no problems. I believe this is due to my feet not making contact with the ground, therefore, no impact is transferred up through my body.
Michael

 

[JasonP]

Running on hard ground or on a treatmill can make tinnitus worse for some people. Many people have contacted me about this and there is information on the Internet about running and tinnitus. I use an elliptical machine and have no problems. I believe this is due to my feet not making contact with the ground, therefore, no impact is transferred up through my body.
Michael

Is it temporary or long term?

 

[Michael Leigh]

Is it temporary or long term?

Unfortunately the people that have contacted me about their tinnitus getting worse when running on hard ground or treadmill, find it is Long term. Click on the following link to see where tests have been carried out saying: running makes tinnitus worse. http://www.nytimes.com/1994/04/06/us/inner-ear-may-take-beating-from-high-impact-aerobics.html

 

[glynis]

Sometimes its the rise in your heart rate and blood pressure.
As you get fitter you can increase slowly and your BP will get better and reduce the tinnitus.
Always best to do warm up exercises and cooling down slowly after and not just stop.
I agree with @Michael Leigh that the impact through the body can cause tinnitus to spike for some people.
..lots of love glynis

 

[Starthrower]

Micheal your article is from 1994 and addresses mostly high impact aeorbics - that part I agree with regarding impact.

I didn't mention that yes it is important to purchase good running shoes with extra padding and support along with a good treadmill. Today's treadmills are very user friendly for the runner. Much better than running on cement or pavement. Glad the elliptical machine is a good form of exercise for you. Many with knee or other issues find this to be an excellent way to get cardio.

JasonP's question in part was:

"My question is though, after long term cardio exercise, can this reduce my T."

Not everyone is negatively affected with terminal louder tinnitus after running.

In fact it is important to have some sort of cardio exercise. This does improve one's health in the long term. If you feel better and healthier the mental load of intrusive tinnitus improves. Whether or not it comes from running, walking or using other ways to increase one's cardio.

Running works for me for the past 20 years. Good shoes. Stopped using pavement/cement and opted for a very well made treadmill. My tinnitus is always 24/7 and loud.

I chose to live life and run with scissors.

 

[yonkapin]

I love running. I used to get short term spikes after intense resistant training and cardio sessions in the beginning but don't seem to experience that anymore. Does seem to be a common event most of us experience though, but it could be due to a number of factors like having increased blood flow, increased stress on the cardiovascular system, etc. I don't think it's a sign that you are doing damage to your hearing.

There are some issues with that study cited by another poster from 1994, super small sample size and questionable testing methods. As mentioned in that article a lot of the trainers and people affected are taking part of aerobic classes where they love to blast the music. They do this at my local spin class, they literally pump the music as loud as you would expect at a club, super silly of them to do.

I doubt running moderately does any damage to hearing. I'm talking 5-10k runs 3 to 5 times a week on a treadmill or outside. I could see issues if you were doing some extreme running activities like ultra-marathons regularly or running ridiculous distances on varying elevation but other than that I doubt there's any damage being done.

Anyway, keep running and exercising. There are so many very significant benefits to gain from it. Have a peep through this Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurobiological_effects_of_physical_exercise

People who regularly perform aerobic exercise (e.g., running, jogging, brisk walking, swimming, and cycling) have greater scores on neuropsychological function and performance tests that measure certain cognitive functions, such as attentional control, inhibitory control, cognitive flexibility, working memory updating and capacity, declarative memory, spatial memory, and information processing speed.[1][5][7][9][10] Aerobic exercise is also a potent antidepressant and euphoriant;[13][14][15][16] as a result, consistent exercise produces general improvements in mood and self-esteem.[17][18]

Regular aerobic exercise improves symptoms associated with a variety of central nervous system disorders and may be used as an adjunct therapy for these disorders. There is clear evidence of exercise treatment efficacy for major depressive disorder[11][15][19][20] and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder.[21][22] A large body of preclinical evidence and emerging clinical evidence supports the use of exercise therapy for treating and preventing the development of drug addictions.[23][24][25][26][27] Reviews of clinical evidence also support the use of exercise as an adjunct therapy for certain neurodegenerative disorders, particularly Alzheimer's disease[28][29] and Parkinson's disease.[30][31][32][33] Regular exercise is also associated with a lower risk of developing neurodegenerative disorders.[31][34] Regular exercise has also been proposed as an adjunct therapy for brain cancers.[35]

Running and resistance exercise has helped me tremendously through my battle with tinnitus and hyperacusis.

 

[SilverSpiral]

I try not to view the body as some sort of organic mecha suit, that you pump this much, and do this stretch, and then 15 jilkijumps and 33 supersquatrangles.

For reducing T, I would suggest walking in nature, where you can't hear cars anymore, connecting with nature, slowing down, and becoming part of nature, where you are no long a visitor, but are part of nature. Meditate in a place that seems special to you. Do some some simple Qi Gong or Tai chi... That'll be good for you and your T. Lay on the ground, listen to sounds of nature around you. Maybe bring an esoteric book to read at a special place. Meditate, freestyle some taijiquan, no instruction necessary just flow.

Then if you must, measure your T before planning your way home. Then measure it when you arrive home, then measure it when you are posting your results on TT.

Plain western "cardio" workouts are bound to be stimulating, this may aid bloodflow to the ear, but the stimulating nature of the exercizes may spike T. You can calmly fortify your cardiovascular system through less intense forms of daoist arts.

 

[david c]

Running is great exercise and improves mood. Yes some people do report temporary spikes in tinnitus after going for a run but the claim that running can permanently worsen tinnitus is frankly nonsense with no significant recent evidence to support it.

 

[az-g]

For me after running is when I first started noticing my T a few months ago. Now running or strength training does seem to make it worse, as do some yoga poses where I'm bent over.

I can't imagine giving up exercise, though, so unless/until exercise really makes me feel bad, I'm going to keep doing it.

 

[JurgenG]

I had plans to do a marathon this year.. Better to skip it?

 

[Michael Leigh]

For me after running is when I first started noticing my T a few months ago. Now running or strength training does seem to make it worse, as do some yoga poses where I'm bent over.I can't imagine giving up exercise, though, so unless/until exercise really makes me feel bad, I'm going to keep doing it.

Many people have contacted me over the years that have tinnitus and running on hard ground or on the treadmill makes the condtion worse, due to impact underfoot. This travels up the body into the head and auditory system and I believe affects the cochlea, resulting in increased tinnitus. I use an elliptical machine. There is no impact and haven't noticed an increase in my tinnitus. There has been studies into aerobic exercise (running) making tinnitus worse. Click on the link below.
Michael
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/04/06/us/inner-ear-may-take-beating-from-high-impact-aerobics.html

 

[JasonP]

I had plans to do a marathon this year.. Better to skip it?

Hey JurgenG, did you ever run the marathon? If so, did it affect your tinnitus?

 

[Elfin]

If so, did it affect your tinnitus?

In a former lifecycle, I ran a marathon. It had no negative effect on my T and the endorphin release at the end lasted several days and was more potent than any chemical high I have ever experienced. The focus on the training and prep actually gave me a focus and took me out of thinking of the T.

On the day, I ran in earplugs, as there were (in areas) loud cheering and roadside speakers playing music designed to encourage you (they certainly made me run past them faster).

Did you do one @JurgenG

I would fully recommend it if it's your thing. No need for T to hold you back from this.

 

[glynis]

Over the years of going the gym it can really tell on your joints.
I ended up with OA in some joints and walked with sticks after for years and needed knee surgery.
I think a brisk walk or swim or Yoga etc are good and remember exercise should be enjoyable and not keep going till your ready to drop and lots and lots of training and building up for long distance running.
If you ache all over the next day you did to much to soon.
love glynis

 

[john paul]

Ive not noticed any negative side effects from running so far, only 7/8 months in but no problems yet touch wood. I run about 10k every other day on hard ground with running shoes and special gel inner soles. I find it helps me a lot with the Tinnitus fight mentally.

 

[JasonP]

In a former lifecycle, I ran a marathon. It had no negative effect on my T and the endorphin release at the end lasted several days and was more potent than any chemical high I have ever experienced. The focus on the training and prep actually gave me a focus and took me out of thinking of the T.

On the day, I ran in earplugs, as there were (in areas) loud cheering and roadside speakers playing music designed to encourage you (they certainly made me run past them faster).

Did you do one @JurgenG

I would fully recommend it if it's your thing. No need for T to hold you back from this.

Wow! I had no idea an endorphin high could last several days. That is amazing. Do you know how long it would last if you only ran a mile? I'm just curious...I am kind of a little uneasy about running hard because I have known a couple of people who messed their knees up when they were running.

 

[Alvaro030663]

I play tennis regularly, and it can a bit of catch 22. After some strenuous exercise, my tinnitus goes up but so do my emotions, so basically, I have higher tinnitus but I care less.

 

[GlennS]

I have known a couple of people who messed their knees up when they were running.

I messed up my knees even from elliptical but I was pushing things way too far.

I am in probably the worst shape of my life so I'm not one to be giving out advice right now but from yo-yoing I do know what works and what doesn't even if I'm not following my own advice.

Benefits of exercise:

1) endorphins, a natural anti-depressant
2) you're more naturally tired at the end of the day, so easier to fall asleep

I've also found that you can achieve a secondary natural high when you hit your stride in a low-carb diet and you enter ketosis. The trick is to move through the cravings and the brain fog to actually get there (hence my yo-yoing).

These benefits are a clear net gain even if you perceive your tinnitus more due to increased blood flow.

 

[Tex]

I messed up my knees even from elliptical but I was pushing things way too far.

I am in probably the worst shape of my life so I'm not one to be giving out advice right now but from yo-yoing I do know what works and what doesn't even if I'm not following my own advice.

Benefits of exercise:

1) endorphins, a natural anti-depressant
2) you're more naturally tired at the end of the day, so easier to fall asleep

I've also found that you can achieve a secondary natural high when you hit your stride in a low-carb diet and you enter ketosis. The trick is to move through the cravings and the brain fog to actually get there (hence my yo-yoing).

These benefits are a clear net gain even if you perceive your tinnitus more due to increased blood flow.

You should try a cross country ski machine, like the old original Nordic Track. I still use one regularly. You can find them on eBay or on Craigslist. It is a very vigorous workout with no impact.

 

[kingsfan]

I have a really annoying tinnitus tone that gets louder when my heart-rate increases, and sort of goes along with my pulse. It's not a whooshing pulsatile, but more of an up and down EEE tone.

I'm wondering if getting back in shape will lessen it. I was in great shape before getting the job I have now about 2.5 years ago. But the job takes most of my time, and I'm paid way less than I was at my previous company... which ended up shutting down.

 

[Ivan Milliau]

My Ear doctor in the university hospital this morning advised me more running /cardio (what I like) as it increases adrenaline and it would lower BodyFat around my Eustachius tube. (I got heavy Tinnitus after an ear infection 5 yrs ago and my Eustachius tube does not work properly anymore)


QUOTE="Starthrower, post: 228052, member: 1348"]Micheal your article is from 1994 and addresses mostly high impact aeorbics - that part I agree with regarding impact.

I didn't mention that yes it is important to purchase good running shoes with extra padding and support along with a good treadmill. Today's treadmills are very user friendly for the runner. Much better than running on cement or pavement. Glad the elliptical machine is a good form of exercise for you. Many with knee or other issues find this to be an excellent way to get cardio.

JasonP's question in part was:

"My question is though, after long term cardio exercise, can this reduce my T."

Not everyone is negatively affected with terminal louder tinnitus after running.

In fact it is important to have some sort of cardio exercise. This does improve one's health in the long term. If you feel better and healthier the mental load of intrusive tinnitus improves. Whether or not it comes from running, walking or using other ways to increase one's cardio.

Running works for me for the past 20 years. Good shoes. Stopped using pavement/cement and opted for a very well made treadmill. My tinnitus is always 24/7 and loud.

I chose to live life and run with scissors. [/QUOTE]