Elton John Concert — Too Loud?

Brooklyn NY

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Hi, any opinions would be appreciated. I've been invited to an concert in NYC. I have custom musicians ear plugs including the solid adapter. Is attending the concert still too risky even with reasonably good protection? Thanks.
 
Hi, any opinions would be appreciated. I've been invited to an concert in NYC. I have custom musicians ear plugs including the solid adapter. Is attending the concert still too risky even with reasonably good protection? Thanks.
The solid adapter may trigger the occlusion effect and may actually make things worse. How long have you had tinnitus for and was it noise induced?
 
The solid plug is similar to foam earplugs. I wear this at every concert.

The whole point of custom plugs is they LIMIT occlusion.

GO TO THE SHOW. And if you don't, sell me your tickets at face value. I'm not kidding btw. I'll buy 'em and you should use 'em.
 
Is attending the concert still too risky even with reasonably good protection? Thanks.
There is only one way to know for sure!

If you go, and it turns out to be the wrong decision, you might have a lifetime to think about your choices and priorities.

To help you make that choice, check out the posts that I had quoted below
https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/learn-from-others-mistakes.29437/

Having said that, many people go to those concerts, wear earplugs, and end up being ok. Is the upside valuable enough to compensate for the possible downside of a lifetime of regret?

Also, check out the two posts below

Relative newbies to tinnitus are likely to find all the information/opinions above quite confusing. So here are a few common-sense rules to follow:

1. The best protection of all is avoidance. Even the best earplugs can't guarantee complete hearing protection so those relatively new to tinnitus are best advised to avoid prolonged loud noise exposure - especially amplified sound at for example live concerts and sports events. This may involve lifestyle changes.

2. When in doubt, use hearing protection. In the many tasks we all do through the week, some will inevitably involve exposure to noise - which may be at higher levels than we at first realise - so using hearing protection for many of these is only sensible.

3. Build quiet into your day. It's not a good idea to be wearing hearing protection all the time - so you need to give your ears a break by ensuring that there will be quieter times during your day when hearing protection isn't necessary.This may involve changing your routine. Use soft masking noise and light music (not using headphones) to avoid "silence" where tinnitus is most noticeable.

4. Don't stress about stress. Tinnitus newbies are forever being told that the thing which makes tinnitus worse is stress. But while it's true that how you are feeling at a particular moment can make tinnitus temporarily louder, it won't have a lasting effect. But prolonged loud noise exposure can make tinnitus permanently louder. So don't stress about stress - but do be concerned about noise.


I didn't read all the above comments, but did peruse a fair amount of it, and ran across many good points on both sides of the argument. What strikes me is there seems to be an underlying assumption (of course I may be wrong on this) that all brains and neurological systems are created equal. The way I see it, that's simply not the case, so everybody's way of dealing with tinnitus and/or hyperacusis is going to have to be highly individualized.

I read a book many years ago called "Adrenal Syndrome". A lot of the book touched on the residual resiliency of people's adrenal glands as they respond to life's stresses. Very low resiliency often resulted in months/years of chronic debilitating exhaustion following a stressful event(s) in their lives. Very high resiliency indicated essentially the opposite. The author broke this down into some rough numbers:

25% of people have low resiliency, meaning normal life stressors will often send them into some degree of a tailspin.
25% of people have high resiliency, meaning that no matter how severe a stressor comes into their lives, they will be able to cope without becoming debilitated to any degree.
50% of people fall somewhere inbetween.

I believe there are some kind of corresponding numbers for a person's brain and neurological resiliency as well, which can greatly affect the ability to cope with tinnitus. (I believe adrenal resiliency also plays a major role in our ability to cope). -- Based on these assumptions, it's pretty easy for me to conclude that what may be overprotection for one person will be underprotection for another, and vice versa.

I think the main point to understand for someone new to tinnitus is that their path forward is going to be a lot of "testing the waters". Generally, IMHO, it's going to take a few weeks or months to get important insights that will help us achieve a healthy balance. In all likelihood, most people are going to learn from experience when their over-protecting or under-protecting.

I've come to believe however, that in those early months, if one is going to err in either direction, it should be toward overprotection. It just seems to me the consequences of underprotection (which could result in permanent injury) in those early times are much more dire than the consequences of overprotection--which as I understand, generally results in temporary setbacks.

Doing a number of things to better support the brain and neurological system and the body's stress response (adrenal glands) is quite high on my list of recommendations I would make to anybody with tinnitus. Doing so might even prevent phonophobia or OCD, etc., as we go through our learning curves -- Just my 2 cents worth.
 
Hi, any opinions would be appreciated. I've been invited to an concert in NYC. I have custom musicians ear plugs including the solid adapter. Is attending the concert still too risky even with reasonably good protection? Thanks.

My personal experience would say it's too risky. At least, not worth the risk. But I don't know how you or your ears handle things.
 

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