Exercise

[Christophe_85]

@JoyBenz007 yes you should keep exercicing but in the gym it is very noisy with the iron falling down very hard sometimes...

So you should protect your ears putting some earplugs... And also do other cardio than Running...

All the Best

 

[pef]

I run with the yellow peltor earplugs on the treadmill. When outside I don't wear plugs. My tinnitus does seem louder after running, but it's probably due to the increased blood flow, etc. But overall I have not noticed an adverse effect.

That's just me, YMMV. Good luck

 

[TuneOut]

I run with the yellow peltor earplugs on the treadmill. When outside I don't wear plugs. My tinnitus does seem louder after running, but it's probably due to the increased blood flow, etc. But overall I have not noticed an adverse effect.

That's just me, YMMV. Good luck

I'd be concerned about that occlusion effect when running with earplugs. You haven't found the noise of your feet hitting the ground to be louder?

 

[TuneOut]

What is somatic?

Hi Joy. Somatic mean related to the body. Somatosensory tinnitus is just tinnitus that is effected by clenching or moving the jaw and neck, among other things. I don't know the mechanism.

 

[JoyBenz007]

Thank you everyone! Went for a little walk and did some weight training yesterday

 

[Kaelon]

Awesome, Joy. Exercise is really good for your overall health, as you know. Tinnitus requires several things in order to be established and perpetuated:

1. Hearing loss, including "undetectable" hearing loss.
2. Sleep deprivation (and deprivation of REM).
3. Anxiety, or emotional stress.
4. Memory loss.

Exercise helps with all of these, including increasing blood flow to support the brain with hearing loss. However, the real gain here is that with exercise, you will sleep better, be less anxious, and be able to sharpen your mind.

That said, it is very common for during/immediate aftermath of Tinnitus, especially in somatic patterns, for Tinnitus to initially be much louder; this settles down. Over time, as you exercise for at least three weeks, the body begins to adjust to better support cardiovascular health and general circulation.

 

[Gman]

Just be careful of running on the treadmill or on hard ground as it can make tinnitus worse for some people. Please click on the link to see tests that were carried out on people whose tinnitus was made worse doing some forms of exercise. http://www.nytimes.com/1994/04/06/us/inner-ear-may-take-beating-from-high-impact-aerobics.html

Interesting article but very aggravating. Now high impact exercise is bad? The list is never ending.
In contrast to this article, I have found since getting T I no longer get motion sickness at all. Since childhood I would always get bad motion sickness.

 

[Michael Leigh]

Now high impact exercise is bad?

Impact exercise is not bad for everyone that has tinnitus each person is different. There is a lot to enjoy in life even with tinnitus. However, if person chooses to have a negative mindset then all they will see is doom and gloom

Michael

 

[Gman]

@Michael Leigh True.
I personally have been trying to have an optimistic outlook on life in recent months after a truly horrible first 6months to the year. I have habituated so much that I can usually even sleep with my ear on the pillow. Running has been a good form of stress relief for me. But for the past couple of months I have been getting clicking sounds in my ear when I jog and I get spikes for a day afterward. So this article does make me a little concerned, especially if it may potentially worsen things permanently. Next they will say breathing is bad because oxygen causes whatever.
But having said that, in the recent past riding a bike, which is supposedly low impact, gave me a massive spike for days. Not sure if that was wind or neck/spine related.

 

[Michael Leigh]

@Gman

I use an elliptical machine/crosstrainer at home for exercise and have no problems as my feet don't touch the floor.
A person with tinnitus has to learn to be more positive about life and this takes time. Click on the links below and read my articles that you might find helpful.

All the best
Michael

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/acquiring-a-positive-mindset.23969/

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/tinnitus-and-the-negative-mindset.23705/

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/is-positivity-important.23150/

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/tinnitus-and-mental-health.21978/

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/inspiration.22894/

 

[Gman]

Thanks for the positive vibes. I appreciate it, but I don't recall saying I had a negative mindset.

Anyway I have officially stopped jogging. The past 3 times I've had clicking followed by quite bad T that felt different from the "normal" spikes ie potentially permanent increase. Additionally I have had quite bad aural fullness with ear pain, return of TTTS and a couple of instances thumping in my middle ear. Night time T is def worse.
Nothing attributable to noise.
It has settled quite a lot in the week since my last jog, but not to baseline (yet).

I just don't get it. It's like the little bones are becoming loose or something. In my first 8 months jogging caused me no issues. But I guess lately I have been setting personal best times.

I'm sticking to low impact now and going to visit a new ENT.

 

[Michael Leigh]

I'm sticking to low impact now and going to visit a new ENT.

If you are going to see a new ENT doctor you will not get much help unless there is an underlying medically problem making your tinnitus more intrusive. The person to see for help with tinnitus management and treatment is a Hearing Therapist or Audiologist that specialises in the treatment and management of tinnitus.

All the best
Michael

 

[Screamin Ears]

As much as I'd like to totally agree with you, I cannot. Running and lifting heavy spikes my tinnitus every damn time. It wasn't this way for 20 years but its been this way for around a year now.

I get the same and it sucks, i have virtualy stopped all weight training now because the T is already louder than i can cope with i don't need it any louder.

 

[Gman]

If you are going to see a new ENT doctor you will not get much help unless there is an underlying medically problem making your tinnitus more intrusive. The person to see for help with tinnitus management and treatment is a Hearing Therapist or Audiologist that specialises in the treatment and management of tinnitus.

All the best
Michael

Exactly. I do have some unresolved medical issues, some of which fall within what an ENT deals with, some of which do not. I believe the clicking may possibly be the middle ear bones. The increase T is just a symptom of this. Hence I am going to visit a new ENT I was recommended by someone. Apparently they are helpful unlike most.
On a positive note my T has settled massively today.

 

[obutterfly]

Do. Not. Stop.
Exercising.

I can't stress this enough. Most of what people here say causes spikes does not. Most posts on this site are made by exhausted people who still can't sleep stuck in the freak out phase with zero ability to determine causation from correlation.

If you made a post about how water with more than 4 cubes of ice caused a spike there'd be ten people who only used three to be safe and people who swore their t spiked even at two, so they use one from now on.

How are you doing now?

 

[obutterfly]

If you are going to see a new ENT doctor you will not get much help unless there is an underlying medically problem making your tinnitus more intrusive. The person to see for help with tinnitus management and treatment is a Hearing Therapist or Audiologist that specialises in the treatment and management of tinnitus.

All the best
Michael

What should an audiologist be able to do for me? I went to one, and she sold me a pair of $4000 hearing aids. They have masking capability, but I find the masking to be even more annoying than the tinnitus alone. Other than that she hasn't helped me as far as I can tell.

 

[Michael Leigh]

What should an audiologist be able to do for me? I went to one, and she sold me a pair of $4000 hearing aids. They have masking capability, but I find the masking to be even more annoying than the tinnitus alone. Other than that she hasn't helped me as far as I can tell.

It all depends what kind of treatment your Audiologist practices and what you are paying for? If you are paying for hearing aids with or without maskers then that is what you got and shouldn't expect anymore. However, if your Audiologist practices tinnitus management this can include: counselling, CBT and TRT. Some Audiologists test hearing and fit a patient with hearing aid. While others do the same but also specialise in tinnitus managment and practice the treatments I've mentioned with their patient/client.

Hearing Therapists can also specialise in tinnitus management by practicing the trements that I've mentioned above with their patients/clients.

Michael

PS: Hearing aids with maskers should be introduced slowly. First use the hearing aids alone without masking. After a few weeks introduce the masking but keep the sound slightly below your tinnitus.

 

[obutterfly]

It all depends what kind of treatment your Audiologist practices and what you are paying for? If you are paying for hearing aids with or without maskers then that is what you got and shouldn't expect anymore. However, if your Audiologist practices tinnitus management this can include: counselling, CBT and TRT. Some Audiologists test hearing and fit a patient with hearing aid. While others do the same but also specialise in tinnitus managment and practice the treatments I've mentioned with their patient/client.

Hearing Therapists can also specialise in tinnitus management by practicing the trements that I've mentioned above with their patients/clients.

Michael

PS: Hearing aids with maskers should be introduced slowly. First use the hearing aids alone without masking. After a few weeks introduce the masking but keep the sound slightly below your tinnitus.

Thank you, Michael.

 

[Gman]

Be careful of using the treadmill Bill as it can make tinnitus more intrusive for some people. Also, running on hard ground. It is due to impact underfoot travelling up through the body to the auditory system. Please click on the link: http://www.nytimes.com/1994/04/06/us/inner-ear-may-take-beating-from-high-impact-aerobics.html

I know this for a fact. I developed clicking in my ears when I jogged which, as far as I can tell, only temporarily worsened my T. But I chose to quit.
I find low impact exercise still makes my middle ears puff up inside, which I don't understand. Could it be my cervical issues or something vascular?

 

[Michael Leigh]

I know this for a fact. I developed clicking in my ears when I jogged which, as far as I can tell, only temporarily worsened my T. But I chose to quit.
I find low impact exercise still makes my middle ears puff up inside, which I don't understand. Could it be my cervical issues or something vascular?

I haven't got any idea. I can only suggest if a person finds doing a certain exercise increases their tinnitus and it doesn't reduce, after the exercise has been finished. Stop doing it. I use an elliptical machine at home and haven't had any problems.

 

[Tweaker]

I always find moutain biking off-road helpful. No traffic noise. Just sound of gentle breeze and nature sounds.