Fire Alarm 2/21

[Gman]

I'm not against it. I'm saying people shouldn't be influenced by the overwhelming overuse that saturates the forums. There's no evidence to suggest it really does anything in the case of a noise trauma. It seems more likely to be useful when something else is causing the tinnitus such as an inflammatory response or infection maybe. Noise trauma causes oxidative stress which is best relieved with anti-oxidants.

If a Dr prescribes it it's a different story. They can review your case and check your history. I just find the number of people going to a Dr and demanding it because of a forum culture (and without doing any research on it) a bit concerning. It is rife.

It does do something for acoustic trauma, it reduces inflammation inside the ear.

 

[Bill Bauer]

lifetime of problems

In the best case scenario it is Months or Years of problems....

 

[dpdx]

In the best case scenario it is Months or Years of problems....

God, I miss my old life so much. I wish i had 20 more years of life like that.

 

[jer]

@Ed209 i respect your opinion that you have about prednisone, but I have my own. Nobody (or at least not me) is popping them like candy. When I have taken them it has always been after a doctors consultation. Once I have taken them after a car alarm went off next to my head for 15 mins, and once I have taken them after suffering sudden hearing loss. Some might argue it does nothing, but I will argue that both times I did not receive a permanent spike or loss of hearing after taking it. And as mentioned before, in many countries it is being used as the first line of defense against noise trauma by many doctors. Since these people studied for it, surely they surely must know something about this right?

Also, someone mentioned (I believe free radicals) being released in the ear after noise trauma. I would gladly take any Alternatives out there instead of prednisone if someone knows any? I know how bad prednisone is, but for me it's a last line of defense that has worked twice.

 

[Ed209]

i respect your opinion that you have about prednisone, but I have my own. Nobody (or at least not me) is popping them like candy. When I have taken them it has always been after a doctors consultation

Jazzer, that's absolutely fine. The key difference here is that a Dr prescribed it. Unfortunately, there really are people on here who take it unnecessarily because they think they have experienced a trauma, when in fact, they are just extremely anxious. It is often recommended that people take it with no knowledge of ones medical history or other drugs they maybe taking; and we aren't all Drs or Pharmacists. It's a powerful drug that shouldn't be played around with, so let the experts deal with this stuff.

 

[Ed209]

It does do something for acoustic trauma, it reduces inflammation inside the ear.

@Ed209 i respect your opinion that you have about prednisone, but I have my own. Nobody (or at least not me) is popping them like candy. When I have taken them it has always been after a doctors consultation. Once I have taken them after a car alarm went off next to my head for 15 mins, and once I have taken them after suffering sudden hearing loss. Some might argue it does nothing, but I will argue that both times I did not receive a permanent spike or loss of hearing after taking it. And as mentioned before, in many countries it is being used as the first line of defense against noise trauma by many doctors. Since these people studied for it, surely they surely must know something about this right?

Also, someone mentioned (I believe free radicals) being released in the ear after noise trauma. I would gladly take any Alternatives out there instead of prednisone if someone knows any? I know how bad prednisone is, but for me it's a last line of defense that has worked twice.

A Dr prescribing them is absolutely fine. The problem, is in all the years I've been on here, there have been an inordinate amount of posts with people telling others to go out and get some with no regard for their health.

Proving it's efficacy is hard because most people experience a TTS that resolves within 24 hours anyway; the usual limit in which you should take prednisone. After that it doesn't work.

I'm not anti-prednisone, I'm against people throwing it about without any medical knowledge.

 

[Gman]

A Dr prescribing them is absolutely fine. The problem, is in all the years I've been on here, there have been an inordinate amount of posts with people telling others to go out and get some with no regard for their health.

Proving it's efficacy is hard because most people experience a TTS that resolves within 24 hours anyway; the usual limit in which you should take prednisone. After that it doesn't work.

I'm not anti-prednisone, I'm against people throwing it about without any medical knowledge.

A doctor still has to prescribe it. It's not passed out like candy, unless there are candy machines out there that do dispense it?!
Have you experienced acoustic trauma before? If not, I really think you should stop commenting about it.

 

[Ed209]

A doctor still has to prescribe it. It's not passed out like candy, unless there are candy machines out there that do dispense it?!
Have you experienced acoustic trauma before? If not, I really think you should stop commenting about it.

There are people who hoard this stuff up and use it anytime they hear the slightest bang. @JurgenG already admitted to this and there are others. And yea, of course I've had acoustic traumas. I've had many. One of the worst is when a stunt team at a ball I was at suddenly came out firing blanks (it was a James Bond theme) whilst we were all eating dinner. People jumped so much they were dropping food and cutlery everywhere. I freaked out big time because I had no chance to grab my earplugs, and to be honest, had I known I'd have waited outside until the shooting stopped. Thankfully, nothing came of it although I did have a temporary spike. Not sure if it was real or perceived because it's so hard to know when you have tinnitus this bad, but my stress response went through the roof.

Anyway, I think we should stop commenting now and let dpdx get back to his thread.

 

[Julien87]

Gman, read the forum a little more, it often happens that people suggest taking prednisone after what is clearly not an acoustic trauma, in the true sense of the word.

 

[Jazzer]

Jazzer, that's absolutely fine. The key difference here is that a Dr prescribed it. Unfortunately, there really are people on here who take it unnecessarily because they think they have experienced a trauma, when in fact, they are just extremely anxious. It is often recommended that people take it with no knowledge of the persons background, and we aren't all Drs or Pharmacists on here. It's a powerful drug that shouldn't be played around with, so let the experts deal with this stuff.

@Ed209 - I developed huge lumps in my legs in 1991 (erythema-nodosum) together with shortness of breath, and was prescribed prednisolone.
I refused to take it.
My GP said "I suspect you have sarcoidosis and you are so wrong to refuse it.
Within a week you will come here and plead for it."
Within three days I felt incredibly ill.
I went out to walk my dogs - luckily my wife was with me. I could not breath, could not get back.
She got the car, and phoned my doc.
He said "don't wait for an ambulance - go straight to hospital."
She got me there - they injected steroids - gave my an X-ray - my lungs were completely white.
I had sarcoidosis and hypercalcemia.
Blood calcium levels are critical at 2.4 /2.5 %.
Mine was 3.3 %.
I was hospitalised for two weeks and prescribed prednisolone at 30mg a day for six months.
Sarcoidosis can easily kill you.
When calcium becomes mobile in the blood stream it can destroy lungs, kidneys, eyes, anywhere there are tiny capillaries.
It forms a sediment. I was very lucky.

To cut a long story short - I got better, having lost just 1cm off of one of my kidneys.
The specialist said "MrHewett - you were well into your last day on this earth."
So, prednisolone undoubtedly saved my life.
The downside is, in 6 months I had absorbed over 5,000 mg of prednisolone
My Tinnitus (albeit at low level) started a few months later.
But I'm still here - and I tend to listen to my doctor a bit better these days.
Sorry this story is so long.

 

[Ed209]

@Ed209 - I developed huge lumps in my legs in 1991 (erythema-nodosum) together with shortness of breath, and was prescribed prednisolone.
I refused to take it.
My GP said "I suspect you have sarcoidosis and you are so wrong to refuse it.
Within a week you will come here and plead for it."
Within three days I felt incredibly ill.
I went out to walk my dogs - luckily my wife was with me. I could not breath, could not get back.
She got the car, and phoned my doc.
He said "don't wait for an ambulance - go straight to hospital."
She got me there - they injected steroids - gave my an X-ray - my lungs were completely white.
I had sarcoidosis and hypercalcemia.
Blood calcium levels are critical at 2.4 /2.5 %.
Mine was 3.3 %.
I was hospitalised for two weeks and prescribed prednisolone at 30mg a day for six months.
Sarcoidosis can easily kill you.
When calcium becomes mobile in the blood stream it can destroy lungs, kidneys, eyes, anywhere there are tiny capillaries.
It forms a sediment. I was very lucky.

To cut a long story short - I got better, having lost just 1cm off of one of my kidneys.
The specialist said "MrHewett - you were well into your last day on this earth."
So, prednisolone undoubtedly saved my life.
The downside is, in 6 months I had absorbed over 5,000 mg of prednisolone
My Tinnitus (albeit at low level) started a few months later.
But I'm still here - and I tend to listen to my doctor a bit better these days.
Sorry this story is so long.

My mom is on prednisone long term Jazzer. I'm not against it. It's just thrown about on here far too much that's all.

It seems I've opened a right can of worms, so I'll leave it now because I've made my point.

 

[Jazzer]

And you are quite right!

Under medical supervision ONLY !

 

[Ed209]

Gman, read the forum a little more, it often happens that people suggest taking prednisone after what is clearly not an acoustic trauma, in the true sense of the word.

Exactly Julien. If it's prescribed because of a genuine trauma then it's fine. There's no problem with that.

 

[Gman]

Gman, read the forum a little more, it often happens that people suggest taking prednisone after what is clearly not an acoustic trauma, in the true sense of the word.

Sorry but I have a life to live, so I can't read every post. However, I read the forum enough. Prednisone/Prednisolone has a place and I know this from experience. Let's move on.

 

[Tweaker]

I spoke with an old guy on a mobility scooter and he decided to show off what it could do, bless him. He started off with the beeper horn. Boy it was loud and I was right over it. I got 3 blasts and now T not happy. Can't avoid these things sometimes. Trying to just get on with things but I did feel a bit anxious afterwards cos I know these loud high pitched sounds set my high pitched T into orbit. A few seconds of a horn can lead to a few days of suffering. This is what I hate about T. So many daily sounds that can make it worse.