Found a Set of Supplements That Reduced Tinnitus by More Than 70%

#61
erik said:
The problem with any vitamin or supplement is there are so many variables to its bioavailability that most of them just don't work. Most supplements are so formulated that their bioavailability is poor and because of this they are unable to provide much if any results. It can be anything from when you take it, dosage, on an empty stomach or with food, dairy or no dairy, do they use mineral salts or magnesium stearate to aid in delivery (most do and it is not good for bioavailability).

Most recent studies show little to no benefit for supplements or vitamins in general -
https://www.sciencealert.com/are-vitamin-pills-good-or-bad-some-you-should-take-folic-acid-zinc,
https://annals.org/aim/fullarticle/...top-wasting-money-vitamin-mineral-supplements
https://www.consumerreports.org/dietary-supplements/does-turmeric-really-reduce-inflammation/

Getting your vitamins and minerals from food is still the best way and most efficient for your body. Of course there are some supplements like Ginkgo that you cannot get from food, however, most of those generally do not work either.

These studies will do little to curb the growing $50 billion dollar a year supplement industry and even though more people are using supplements than ever before, we have higher numbers of heart disease, cancers, neuro diseases and almost everything else across the board increasing.
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I don't dispute these studies or your opinion for that matter. It comes down to the expectations you have for the supplements. You can't eat hamburgers and fries daily and hope a turmeric supplement will prevent heart disease. I think the problem is that manufacturers are free to claim all sorts of health benefits for higher profits while consumers are looking for a magic pill to solve their problems. Both parties are equally wrong here. I see supplements more as conveniences rather than miracles. Can I take my 2000mg of turmeric naturally by eating the root? Sure but can I do this consistently daily? Not with our busy lives so I buy the supplements for the convenience factor. Are they better than the fresh root? Probably not but again, there's a compromise you have to make for the convenience.
 
#62
You're a winner but we are not supposed to sugarcoat it: it is all a placebo + luck. You are starting to heal and you will never be certain to what degree. I was in same boat as you. I was very hopeful and not patient. This website has a very nice community, and they're all very sweet. And it should be. We live with hell. For a lot of people tinnitus on here is their biggest problem. For other people despite it being as loud as theirs it is just another one of their long list of problems. And they are allowed to give it any priority they want. I have a hard time to get motivated to come here every day. Tinnitus is not important to me no more. Though I still believe scientists should find a cure, of course. And I wish everyone to be cured still, of course. But *my* tinnitus is not that important anymore. Even if it hurts, when I get hurt for every 2 hours. Yes I'm right now in such a situation, and nobody leaves me alone lol.

Admittedly I am not sure what happened. If my other problems worsened that this tinnitus has faded in the background (literally I mean) or that I have gotten better.
I have no frigging idea if I ever get rid of it. I have stopped caring. Yes kinda sad for me to not know if a room or place has external sound or not, but I stopped giving it priority. It will sound annoying as I am not you or anyone else here. I have no tips or advice. Everyone works differently. Lord. Tinnitus is so complicated.
 
#63
@Bob den Hartog @Nick M
Like many others, I truly believe that inflammation is the root cause of all disease. I was born a type A personality & always highly strung. Doctors wanted to give me tranquilizers. But I had my blood analyzed by a Holistic doctor and my inflammation & cortisol markers were literally off the chart. Deep breathing, yoga & meditation don't always work for everyone. It would seem I was an inflamed person waiting for Tinnitus or some other inflammatory disease to take hold.
 
#66
Inflammation is not one of those things you just get rid of. Inflammation is a key process in the way the human body functions and recovers. It is not necessarily bad. On the other hand, chronic inflammation is a different story altogether and one which science barely understands. Lupus is considered chronic inflammation and after 30 years of studies and trials on dozens of Lupus drugs, mostly failures.

There is really little hard evidence on the link between disease, diet, exercise, general health and chronic inflammation. As far as anti-inflammatory diets and supplements helping fight inflammation goes, that is highly unlikely and mostly marketing ploys to part you with your $.

We know that certain things such as losing weight, lowering stress, eating a healthy diet and not smoking can be huge factors which can help keep chronic inflammation in check, other than that, it is still mostly a mystery.

Whether this will have some affect with tinnitus remains to be seen. Even if it has little or no impact on your tinnitus, I think the healthier you are the better for everything overall including how you feel about your tinnitus.
 
#67
Quiet please said:
Still a 7.. maybe a 7 1/2. I guess I do need the full dosage; so I took it about an hour ago without the magnesium because that makes me sleepy. Experimentation time!
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And in your case, a 7 for this long is pretty rare, right? Still a 7!

Quiet please said:
Experimentation time!
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Well well well, look who's getting confident with the supplements!
 
#68
@erik
Yes; unfortunately, I'm very familiar with chronic inflammation. I have another medical condition that's causing that in my body. Of all my traditional doctors, not one has recommended Turmeric. Of course, they all want to give me steroids. That is awful for me, as I don't respond well and get all sorts of horrible side effects. All this is in a vicious cycle causing stress, which causes the Tinnitus to spike, etc. I'm willing to try this and see what happens. So far, the T is lower and that in itself is taking stress off my mind.
 
#70
So it was a challenging day yesterday. I took only the Turmeric & Ginkgo together mid-morning. By that evening, I had a weird tingling / crawling sensation on the side of my head around my bad ear. I've had SSHL in that ear about 5 years ago & lost 90% of my hearing. I had a 3-day steroid injection protocol & regaining 60% of hearing and now wear bi-lateral hearing aids. They have a tinnitus setting, which I hate & never use.

The tingling / crawling sensation was around the entire left ear & expanded to my left cheek & up across my right forehead. I got a bit nervous, as this went on for several hours. At bedtime I took the powdered Calm magnesium with a Xanax. I slept well and the tingling / crawling sensation was mostly gone when I awoke. It itched a bit. It's completely gone now. The tinnitus never changed. It started out the day a 7 - 7 1/2 & stayed that way until I went to sleep. This morning it was the same. But that's actually a small improvement, as most days it's an 8-9 when I wake up & then usually settles to a 7 -7 1/2. Most days it spikes; but haven't had that in the last few days.

My guess (hope) is that the supplements are causing circulation activity and it's not really a bad thing. Will take it again tonight & keep fingers crossed.
 
#71
Quiet please said:
So it was a challenging day yesterday. I took only the Turmeric & Ginkgo together mid-morning. By that evening, I had a weird tingling / crawling sensation on the side of my head around my bad ear. I've had SSHL in that ear about 5 years ago & lost 90% of my hearing. I had a 3-day steroid injection protocol & regaining 60% of hearing and now wear bi-lateral hearing aids. They have a tinnitus setting, which I hate & never use.

The tingling / crawling sensation was around the entire left ear & expanded to my left cheek & up across my right forehead. I got a bit nervous, as this went on for several hours. At bedtime I took the powdered Calm magnesium with a Xanax. I slept well and the tingling / crawling sensation was mostly gone when I awoke. It itched a bit. It's completely gone now. The tinnitus never changed. It started out the day a 7 - 7 1/2 & stayed that way until I went to sleep. This morning it was the same. But that's actually a small improvement, as most days it's an 8-9 when I wake up & then usually settles to a 7 -7 1/2. Most days it spikes; but haven't had that in the last few days.

My guess (hope) is that the supplements are causing circulation activity and it's not really a bad thing. Will take it again tonight & keep fingers crossed.
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Thanks for the update. Sorry to hear about the roller coaster ride with the tingling sensation. I believe it does in fact increase circulation. I can no longer notice my slight asymmetric HL that remained after the infection so I'm convinced that it does something circulation or inflammation wise which causes improvement. Maybe you can try taking the supplements before bedtime and see what happens? I take mine just before bed like the video stated. I also noticed a change in my tinnitus and spike patterns when I began taking the supplements. The couple of times that I had spikes, they lasted a maximum of 12 hours before going back to baseline where before, spikes could last weeks. I feel like it acts as a buffer or in other words, keep the tinnitus in check preventing it from getting out of control.

So far my improvements are staying. I take the supplements religiously. Keep us posted.
 
#72
@Nick M
So glad you're still experiencing progress! I'm so happy for you!

I agree I should just take at night and the only reason I took during the day yesterday was because when had that weird whirling sensation around my bronchial area the night before, it woke me at 1:30am & scared the heck out of me. Thank goodness my husband was home with me.

This time I just had someone in the house with me for the earlier part in the evening, as my husband was on a business trip. I figured if it happened during the earlier part of the night, I'd handle it better with someone with me there. I had no idea it would concentrate on my head this time though! LOL Oh man.. that was a very weird sensation.

But Yes; starting tonight I'm taking it before bed. My husbands home tonight to hold my hand for the next wacky thing that might happen.

Did you feel anything sensation within 3-6 hrs after taking it? It can't just be me!
 
#73
Quiet please said:
@Nick M
So glad you're still experiencing progress! I'm so happy for you!

I agree I should just take at night and the only reason I took during the day yesterday was because when had that weird whirling sensation around my bronchial area the night before, it woke me at 1:30am & scared the heck out of me. Thank goodness my husband was home with me.

This time I just had someone in the house with me for the earlier part in the evening, as my husband was on a business trip. I figured if it happened during the earlier part of the night, I'd handle it better with someone with me there. I had no idea it would concentrate on my head this time though! LOL Oh man.. that was a very weird sensation.

But Yes; starting tonight I'm taking it before bed. My husbands home tonight to hold my hand for the next wacky thing that might happen.

Did you feel anything sensation within 3-6 hrs after taking it? It can't just be me!
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Sounds like a plan. To be honest, I can't tell you about specific sensations from the supplements because I began getting all sorts of sensations randomly after my problems started (before the supplements) almost two years ago. I have a constant itching sensation in my inner ear. I randomly get dull shooting pains that go from my ear to my head that last for seconds then go away. I sometimes have a tingling sensation on my scalp at the back of my head. I sometimes feel like I have ice pressed up against my head (cold sensation). When I have bad head tinnitus, I have this drunk light-headed feeling. When I sneeze, my ear hurts for a couple of minutes then goes away.

In the beginning these sensations would be alarming but I've learned to accept them and have convinced myself that they are healing pains (whether they are or aren't in reality).

Even if the supplements did give me weird sensations, I would just attribute them to my existing ear issues not being able to distinguish the difference.
 
#74
@Nick M
Got ya! I have experienced some odd sensations due to Tinnitus as well. Mostly in the actual left ear itself. But I have had occasional numbness on the left side of my head too. Of course, the sensations were different this time, but looking at it as a whole picture, I would say it's not highly unusual to get different sensations in and around the area. Just hoping and praying it's all healing and positive. Once I get past the initial anxiety, I'm ok. I have started to revisit deep breathing, meditation & positive thinking. I want this to be an uplifting experience. My anxiety has been detrimental to my health for so long; I have to try my best to permanently change my way of thinking. Worry will not solve anything. Namaste.
 
#75
I am glad this is at least of some positive influence, @Quiet please. Let's hope this will continue to improve.

For me, I think I'm out. The supplements have not given me any benefit up until now. I have received the Natural Calm product by now and drank it last night, which did not give me additional sleepiness, but I did get a dull pain in my right temple. This was followed by a restless night, and once again no advancement in my tinnitus. As with all supplements, this is not doing anything.
 
#76
@Bob den Hartog
Awww.. I was wondering why we haven't heard from you.

Maybe try it a bit longer? I'm not experiencing anything super extraordinary myself. Yes, my tinnitus has been a steady 7-7 1/2, but that's still pretty awful. It hasn't stopped for one minute. I'm trying to downplay it in my mind because I'm trying to stay positive. I'm not giving up until the bottles are empty. And I've got plenty! Puritans Pride loves to give these buy 1 get 2 free deals! So I've got a box full of Turmeric & Ginkgo. AND I actually got a spike tonight. It lasted 4 hrs. Came out of nowhere. But my spikes usually last from 12 hrs to 5+ days, so that's an improvement. My breathing is definitely better too. Have you gotten any slight improvement in that area?

I hope you continue to give it s shot until at least you're finished with the pills. The magnesium powder might be doing you some good too; sometimes it's hard to know right away. As long as you're not getting any adverse reactions, please think about continuing.

Be hopeful my friend. Please reconsider.
 
#77
Quiet please said:
@Bob den Hartog
Awww.. I was wondering why we haven't heard from you.

Maybe try it a bit longer? I'm not experiencing anything super extraordinary myself. Yes, my tinnitus has been a steady 7-7 1/2, but that's still pretty awful. It hasn't stopped for one minute. I'm trying to downplay it in my mind because I'm trying to stay positive. I'm not giving up until the bottles are empty. And I've got plenty! Puritans Pride loves to give these buy 1 get 2 free deals! So I've got a box full of Turmeric & Ginkgo. AND I actually got a spike tonight. It lasted 4 hrs. Came out of nowhere. But my spikes usually last from 12 hrs to 5+ days, so that's an improvement. My breathing is definitely better too. Have you gotten any slight improvement in that area?

I hope you continue to give it s shot until at least you're finished with the pills. The magnesium powder might be doing you some good too; sometimes it's hard to know right away. As long as you're not getting any adverse reactions, please think about continuing.

Be hopeful my friend. Please reconsider.
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Thank you for your considerate reply. As of now, after taking all the supplements for a week, and now also the Natural Calm before bed, I haven't seen any improvement or difference in my health either, unfortunately. So I'm taking all these pills without any noticeable effect. My tinnitus is in a downward spiral again this week, and my hyperacusis pain is returning, so what I need right now the most, is a good night's sleep, since I usually recover from the day before after a night.

So I'm thinking of getting back on my anti-depressant, as it did give me longer nights than now (and since the nights are getting shorter, it's more difficult to sleep, which might explain the deterioration). I was hoping the magnesium would give me a better night, but a la. I also don't think if it's a good idea to keep taking so many supplements while on AD.

I think I'll continue with the turmeric, though. I'm sure that's mainly a good, healthy thing to take. And yeah, I also got that 1+1 deal, haha, so I have enough lying around here.
 
#79
Bob den Hartog said:
I am glad this is at least of some positive influence, @Quiet please. Let's hope this will continue to improve.

For me, I think I'm out. The supplements have not given me any benefit up until now. I have received the Natural Calm product by now and drank it last night, which did not give me additional sleepiness, but I did get a dull pain in my right temple. This was followed by a restless night, and once again no advancement in my tinnitus. As with all supplements, this is not doing anything.
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Sorry to hear that. It's good to be honest with yourself and not give up. I have been pulling my hair trying everything under the sun in the past two years with almost no success. Diet, exercise, various supplements, vitamins, stress relief, etc. If I had given up along the way to where I am now, I would have still been in the same miserable state of mind that I was in just a short while ago. I don't think it will hurt to continue the supplements unless you are seeing negative effects from it. If it still doesn't work then look into other solutions and I'm sure you will eventually stumble upon something that will help. Have a positive attitude towards getting better as that's half the battle.

Good luck and keep us posted if anything changes.
 
#80
Nick M said:
Sorry to hear that. It's good to be honest with yourself and not give up. I have been pulling my hair trying everything under the sun in the past two years with almost no success. Diet, exercise, various supplements, vitamins, stress relief, etc. If I had given up along the way to where I am now, I would have still been in the same miserable state of mind that I was in just a short while ago. I don't think it will hurt to continue the supplements unless you are seeing negative effects from it. If it still doesn't work then look into other solutions and I'm sure you will eventually stumble upon something that will help. Have a positive attitude towards getting better as that's half the battle.

Good luck and keep us posted if anything changes.
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Well, the change is that last night, i took the turmeric along with my AD, and half an hour later, I felt nauseous and my tinnitus just ramped up. It was horrible while I was in bed. Now, this morning, again, it's way more reactive and loud :(.
 
#81
@Bob den Hartog
That's just awful; I'm truly sorry to hear this. It's just terrible when you try something new and it just makes things worse. Maybe give it more time? I have no answers; I wish I did. Just know you're not alone. Does that help? I don't know.

I tried 2 different AD's in the past and both made the tinnitus much worse for me. I gave each about a month, but just couldn't go any further. My doctor was very "disappointed" with me and made me feel terrible. She said; give it more time. But she wasn't in my head screaming with me.

I took the whole supplement regime last night and woke up at 4:30 am with my head exploding. I don't think it's the supplements. I'm going to continue them for now. I just think it's the nature of the beast. My beast gets in its moods and can nap somewhat quietly and be somewhat docile at times. But then it awakens and roars and roars. It shakes my poor brain, mind, body & soul. It brings me to my knees. It shakes my faith. I'm having trouble with that one.

Some of my worse times happen when I'm asleep; when I awaken to be specific. My jaw is very tense; so it may be contributed to TMJ. I had it years ago & thought it was gone, but maybe it's back. Sometimes things come back; they're not finished yet.

My next step is to see a dental specialist to help soothe the beast. More time, more effort, more money, more hope to be dashed.. maybe. We'll see.
Keep trying.
 
#82
Quiet please said:
@Bob den Hartog
That's just awful; I'm truly sorry to hear this. It's just terrible when you try something new and it just makes things worse. Maybe give it more time? I have no answers; I wish I did. Just know you're not alone. Does that help? I don't know.

I tried 2 different AD's in the past and both made the tinnitus much worse for me. I gave each about a month, but just couldn't go any further. My doctor was very "disappointed" with me and made me feel terrible. She said; give it more time. But she wasn't in my head screaming with me.

I took the whole supplement regime last night and woke up at 4:30 am with my head exploding. I don't think it's the supplements. I'm going to continue them for now. I just think it's the nature of the beast. My beast gets in its moods and can nap somewhat quietly and be somewhat docile at times. But then it awakens and roars and roars. It shakes my poor brain, mind, body & soul. It brings me to my knees. It shakes my faith. I'm having trouble with that one.

Some of my worse times happen when I'm asleep; when I awaken to be specific. My jaw is very tense; so it may be contributed to TMJ. I had it years ago & thought it was gone, but maybe it's back. Sometimes things come back; they're not finished yet.

My next step is to see a dental specialist to help soothe the beast. More time, more effort, more money, more hope to be dashed.. maybe. We'll see.
Keep trying.
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Well apparently you're not supposed to take turmeric with mirtazapine, as it can lead to serotonine syndrome. Which might be why I'm still slightly dizzy, slightly nauseous, have a slight tremor, slightly sick, dull headache, and stuff. And why my tinnitus ramped up after intake, and I had a bad feeling in my stomach. But, 'most cases resolve in 24 to 72 hours and do not cause death'. Well. That's a relief.

I am, however, supposed to discontinue any of the medications that caused it. I only took half a mirtazapine, but also both the turmeric and Curcumine, which might be what causes my bad reaction to it. I'll stop taking any of it and wait for it to calm over. Also hoping that will lower the T again.

Thanks again for your kind words, and sorry to hear about your struggles. I'm really hoping the dental specialist will be able to give you relief. There must be a reason for all of this to happen, it doesn't just happen.
 
#83
@Bob den Hartog
Ahhh.. good to know about the Turmeric interaction issue with your AD. I didn't know that. I do know it has to be discontinued at least one week prior to surgery or dental work, as it's a blood thinner. Glad you found out quickly.
It's always something, isn't it?

I don't believe my Tinnitus is caused by TMJ, but it MAY be spiking it. It's no coincidence I wake up every morning with it screaming. A highly specialized ENT with the demeanor of a slightly alive corpse diagnosed me with Cochlear Hydrops; an incurable (what else!) vestibular disorder. In my own research (she offered nothing except water pills which make me so ill, I can't function) it can be linked to inflammation. This is why I want to stay on the Turmeric for now. We must be our own advocates! Good luck to us. We need all the luck we can get.,
 
#84
Quiet please said:
Deep breathing, yoga & meditation don't always work for everyone.
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and that's why I take Klonopin, on top of breath and metta meditation :-/ The latter things "work", just within a confined spectrum (and learning how to meditate when in a crisis state is more or less impossible).

Quiet please said:
I don't believe my Tinnitus is caused by TMJ, but it MAY be spiking it.
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My incidents of waking up with one side really screaming dropped dramatically when I started sleeping with a properly fitted TMJ bite guard. On the other hand, it cost $1700...
 
#85
@linearb
I know what you mean; when it gets real bad, I do have an rx for Xanax. I just try not to use it during the day because even small doses make me sleepy and zoned out.

I'm going to a new TMJ dentist next week for a first time consultation, which will cost out of pocket $450.00, so I can only imagine what an oral appliance will cost! But if it helps; I'm in. I actually had TMJ therapy and custom day & night appliances made about 8 years ago. I had jaw pain & the scan showed my right joint had slipped with lots of inflammation. I had treatment every month for a year. He did a good job with the pain & the 2nd scan showed the joint back in place. But it didn't help the TMJ at all.

This was all before I had 2 dental implants which changed my bite & a nasty rear-end auto collision 2 years ago that made the T much worse. This is a new dentist & I'm hoping he can help. Fingers crossed.

Update: Still taking the supplements. The T hasn't changed that much so far; just a tiny little bit lower in frequency. I'm continuing the regime.
 
#88
linearb said:
i will join this experiment, too, because I've never taken this exact regimen, but I literally have all the ingredients laying around.

my bathroom closet looks like an apothecary...
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Like most of us. Just proves the struggle is real... Post the outcome.
 
#89
Something interesting I want to post... I skipped the supplements Thursday evening by just forgetting to take them. I had a busy day and it just didn't come to mind I guess. Friday I woke up to really bad tinnitus. I would rate it a 8 or 9. I thought it would be a good experiment so I didn't take them in the morning either. The tinnitus was screaming all Friday. Last night I took them again and this morning (Saturday) I woke up to a 4 or 5. This evening it had settled down a bit more so I'm almost back to the tolerable 2 or 3. My spikes always follow a sawtooth graph pattern where the spike comes on quick then slowly drops back to baseline. Sometimes it would take a few days and sometimes weeks before it settled down. With these supplements, the journey back to baseline comes much quicker in like 24-36 hours and I've tended to stay in baseline much longer and quieter so far.

I'll keep posting updates and other interesting findings I come across. I wish you all good luck.
 
#90
Nick M said:
Something interesting I want to post... I skipped the supplements Thursday evening by just forgetting to take them. I had a busy day and it just didn't come to mind I guess. Friday I woke up to really bad tinnitus. I would rate it a 8 or 9. I thought it would be a good experiment so I didn't take them in the morning either. The tinnitus was screaming all Friday. Last night I took them again and this morning (Saturday) I woke up to a 4 or 5. This evening it had settled down a bit more so I'm almost back to the tolerable 2 or 3. My spikes always follow a sawtooth graph pattern where the spike comes on quick then slowly drops back to baseline. Sometimes it would take a few days and sometimes weeks before it settled down. With these supplements, the journey back to baseline comes much quicker in like 24-36 hours and I've tended to stay in baseline much longer and quieter so far.

I'll keep posting updates and other interesting findings I come across. I wish you all good luck.
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@Nick M
Started the supplements yesterday :) will update in a couple of weeks...or
sooner if any significant change. Have a hissing sound all the time -
in left ear sometimes or all over head. Not as bad as it was in January when
I started @R. David Case sound therapy but still annoying. Let's hope this
will work for us all. Thanks.
 

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