From Severe to Very Mild Tinnitus and How I Did It with Mentha Arvensis Tea
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It is if I blast music for more than a few minutes. So, I am quitting music and using my speakers for a year or two. I give the example of a broken arm. You don't want to ruin the healing process by smashing it with a bat everyday.
It is no longer multitonal, I used some eardrops 2 months ago, and woke up in the middle of the night to a screeching noise, and all the noises combined to a single hiss.
The drops I used were a mix of Menthas arvensis, pine tree leaves, pine nuts, castor oil and vinegar.
There was also another occasion 3 weeks ago where this mix completely cured me, as in I heard silence for the first time in 10 years. I heard a noise like connecting 2 wires, and I heard ACTUAL silence for the first time in 10 years. The liquid was stuck in my left ear, so the right still had a slight hiss and the tinnitus came back after about 5 seconds from the 0.2/10 hiss in the right ear to both ears.
I tried the mixed drops some more, but it never did the same thing. I'm still grateful for where it's at now though.
@arctic_penguin, did you have hyperacusis as well? Do you have any knowledge of this working on people having bad reactive tinnitus for years?
I've only tried the drops myself. For hyperacusis, try drops made from pine nuts, castor oil, and vinegar. Same regimen, but let me know how it went. For hyperacusis, almond oil makes it worse.
- Apr 30, 2018
- 2,507
- Tinnitus Since
- 02/2018
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Single 25 mg dose of (anticholinergic) drug Promethazine
Something that seems to help (just started doing it recently), is putting castor oil on my ears, and then putting a gentle heat source up next to the ears (I use hot water bottles). The directions I ran across said to do it 4x daily for a few days, but I've never been that disciplined. But doing it just once a few times definitely created a calming effect in my ear and auditory cortex. @Star64.
I guess nobody will mind when I say: what on earth is this all about? Severe 10-year-old tinnitus caused by acoustic trauma practically cured by dripping lukewarm mint tea in your ear?
I guess we all agree this could maybe potentially only do something for an ear infection... not for an actual tinnitus that is due to broken synapses, ingrained in the brain - type of situation.
I guess we all agree this could maybe potentially only do something for an ear infection... not for an actual tinnitus that is due to broken synapses, ingrained in the brain - type of situation.
I'll definitely try it out with a heat source next. Castor oil was the majority of the mixture that time I experienced a cure. It was lodged in my left ear through that night: usually it spills out. I may have to try earplugging it in and using some sort of heater. I just have to keep trying and hope it works again on both ears.
I so feel the same. Even if this, say a miracle happened, would heal some hair cells, how do you change the maladaptativity in the brain areas, which is real and exists!?
- Apr 30, 2018
- 2,507
- Tinnitus Since
- 02/2018
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Single 25 mg dose of (anticholinergic) drug Promethazine
Hi @Ben Winders -- I'm curious why you refer to synapses as "broken". I've tended to look at them as chronically "agitated", or something like that. But I've not really thought of them as being damaged.
Most of my focus on trying to improve my tinnitus is doing different things that might calm down my brain and/or neurological system, and/or auditory cortex, thus improving both my ear and brain tinnitus. Marginal improvements from various things seems to be working for me, though it does take a long time!
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You wouldn't.
Plus I think this whole "hair cells missing, brain filling in space" theory is way outdated. Imho I don't think restoring hearing, at least for severe cases, will do much. I think Thanoses research is a good example of what's actually going on for most people who develop tinnitus, albeit still unknown why some don't. I guess genetics.
MemberHaven't really felt any need to rain on this parade, because, well, like @Matchbox said, experimenting with this potential "treatment" is unlikely to do anyone any harm.
We've got the weird Tinnitus Mix thread still going, which may actually worsen some of those who try it. So in comparison, @arctic_penguin's suggestion is about as risky as telling people to try prayer.
Also, I'm always open to being proven wrong despite my preconceptions. I don't believe aliens are visiting or flying around earth for example. But if tomorrow the Empire State Building gets vaporised, or the MIB try to recruit me with "Alien Tinnitus Cure" covered in the health insurance plan, then call me a believer.
That said, I don't see this working for anyone (except, apparently, the OP). Reasons being:
1) Mint tea has no regenerative properties. I suppose it does have purported anti-inflammatory properties. But assuming the (one) theory (of many) that tinnitus is as the result of "bent", instead of dead, CHCs, and anti-inflammatory medications applied directly to the cochlear remedied that problem; dropping said medication (or tea...) down an ear canal with an intact tympanic membrane, is not going to reach those hair cells. Hence why most of the modern regenerative medicines that are being trialled are intratympanically delivered.
2) If any anti-inflammatory medication did miraculously make it past the tympanic membrane, or in some non-existent medical procedure, was directly applied to the cochlear, it would still have a lesser effect compared to a regenerative medicine. Or more succinctly put: a regenerative medicine would fix the problems an anti-inflammatory medication would and more. But, seeing as to date results involving FX-322 have been underwhelming, I think we can safely assume mint tea isn't going to help us resume our full-lives any time soon, unless indigestion is what's stopping you from resuming a full life...
May as well just stick an Ibuprofen in your ear and hope for the best.
Pleased you're doing so much better though @arctic_penguin, you seem like a cool guy.
Severe since December until about a month ago. The ear infection was long gone in December, using antibiotics.
The castor oil mixture helped me on 2 occasions, and 100% not a coincidence. The first time, I woke up to the 3 sounds merging into one and that was the end of the multitonal pulsating tinnitus. On a second occasion, it cured me for 5 seconds in the left ear where it was stuck. Mind you I hadn't heard actual silence in 10 years, so I was shocked. But, the right ear didn't silence completely, so the tinnitus returned to a baseline of 2/10 from a 7/10. I tried it a few more times, but it never did the same thing.
The mentha arvensis tea also helps, but it's for anyone here that wishes to try.
Would there be any reason not to buy this fresh and make your own tea from the leaves?
I should have been more specific. The mentha arvensis makes it more difficult to find the tinnitus, when it's masked with outside noise. It's like you are forgetting tinnitus. First time I used it, it took me maybe 7 seconds as I was trying to remember the ringing. Normally I could hear it immediately and that was in a silent room.
I would like to know if anyone else experiences this, when using the wild mint drops. If you have used it, let me know if you experience this as well.
Also, not everyone with tinnitus has hearing loss, and vice versa.
I would like to know if anyone else experiences this, when using the wild mint drops. If you have used it, let me know if you experience this as well.
Also, not everyone with tinnitus has hearing loss, and vice versa.
Either way is fine, but it has to be wild mint/mentha arvensis. There are many species of mint.
That is possibly true. But then, if a person using this method has tinnitus without hearing loss, it makes no sense to apply medication, or drops of tea, or any other herbal infusion (for that matter), to the ear.
And again, the above is generously implementing the wild hypothetical that said medication or herbal remedy could reach the cochlear despite the tympanic membrane (which it can't).
Like I said before, not trying to discourage people from trying this. If you can safely put drops of olive oil in your ear, you can safely put tea leaf infused water in your ear. But there's no reason this should work beyond miraculous circumstances, or supernatural intervention.
Only 30% of those with hearing loss have tinnitus. Also, tinnitus makes it more difficult to pass a hearing test. Hopefully, we can get about 2 people to try it out. I like to keep an open mind.
- Apr 30, 2018
- 2,507
- Tinnitus Since
- 02/2018
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Single 25 mg dose of (anticholinergic) drug Promethazine
Personally, I'm of the opinion it's best to avoid absolute statements like this, until the day a significant portion of the mystery surrounding tinnitus has been unravelled.
Perhaps, but the extent to which current hearing tests accurately measure hearing loss is questionable at best and ineffectual at worst.
Well I'll admit your thread has me curious, in somewhat the same way people's shared experiences with DMT have occasionally taken my interest.
Like @Lane, I'm not going to argue with anything that works, however it works. So whatever you or I say, the proof will be in the pudding.
- Apr 28, 2021
- 1,881
- Tinnitus Since
- 1999
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Trauma
Has anyone tried it? I know it sounds too good to be true lol.
I don't like bashing anything until I've tried it or if it sounds just too ridiculous/dangerous.
I don't like bashing anything until I've tried it or if it sounds just too ridiculous/dangerous.
- Apr 30, 2018
- 2,507
- Tinnitus Since
- 02/2018
- Cause of Tinnitus
- Single 25 mg dose of (anticholinergic) drug Promethazine
Hey @Damocles -- I certainly respect your skepticism. Something to remember however, is that castor oil is part of the regimen that @arctic_penguin is using, and it has some pretty miraculous properties all on its own. I've been familiar with "castor oil packs" for many years, and have often gotten into a routine of doing them regularly (daily sometimes) for extended periods of time. They always help to "re-ground" me if I've gotten out of sync in some manner or another (like getting tinnitus). They were sort of a salvation for me when I first got my screaming tinnitus back in 2018 (tinnitus is much better now however).
I learned many years ago that the rather famous personage of Edgar Cayce often recommended them for a variety of ailments. It apparently worked for so many things because of its unique ability to "harmonize" and balance the sympathetic and parasympathetic systems in the body, with the main junction of the two being in the solar plexus area (which is where you put heated castor oil). From my own experience doing them, I've come to believe that some sort of neurological integration can take place after any kind of major shift or trauma in the body, including tinnitus onset, and that these packs can be very helpful in that integration process.
I read a book on the topic years ago (link below) and was highly impressed by one of the testimonials in the book, which had a fairly "miraculous" story. If you read about three paragraphs at this link starting with "Velma is a seventy-two...", it dramatically illustrates how one therapy session alone successfully addressed a 23-year long history of intense intestinal discomfort --- within minutes. I definitely think anybody who uses castor oil in some therapeutic manner has the potential to experience a miracle for themselves (whether minor or significant).
The Oil That Heals: A Physician's Successes With Castor Oil Treatments
I'm more than likely going to give this a go if my local hippy store has some of this tea.
Besides, mint tea is nice anyway.
Nobody else has tried this? It's too hard to find pure Wild Mint tea? I read your cure as a good antibacterial cleanse that helped lower inflammation and the ringing lowered too... Idk. I hope at least one of us tries this out.
Wondering the same thing. Maybe it could help with our "physical" ear pain @Wrfortiscue, although I wouldn't put much faith into that.
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