"Full" Recovery from Tinnitus — Not an Actual Possibility?

[Dij111]

Hi,

I wanted to discuss something on my mind,

The act of tinnitus "fading", particularly with noise-induced T and any that are caused by actual damage to the inner ear.

We know that once damage is occurred, the brain keeps misfiring signals from hyperactive neurons to compensate for the lost frequencies.
Now we don't know why it fades for some people, maybe it heals partially - hair cells themselves don't regenerate.

We have no data to conclude that tinnitus is 100% gone once it arrives - as in, no longer reacts to stressful situations, no "spikes" from exercise.
Only info I got was from jjflyman who still had a very slight hiss when plugging his ears back when his T went away.

I believe that tinnitus sound can "fade" to the point of not being heard, but the brain still remains in that tinnitus mode of hyperactivity so the issue in itself is not actually resolved, the brain is still working incorrectly.

Any thoughts, maybe studies that can back this up or prove me wrong?

 

[Bill Bauer]

jjflyman who still had a very slight hiss when plugging his ears back when his T went away.

Really? I didn't know that... Was that the case, @jjflyman ?

I believe that tinnitus sound can "fade" to the point of not being heard

I remember reading somewhere that those sounds are there even for the healthy people, and that tinnitus is the brain losing its ability to filter the noise out.

 

[jjflyman]

Really? I didn't know that... Was that the case, @jjflyman ?

I think Dij111 misunderstood my comment. The first time with T it faded 100% GONE. I did comment to him that with foam earplugs in, I did not hear total silence, because I don't think anyone hears "nothing". But the T and all it's ringing and hissing was totally gone.
BTW Bill, my current T is close to 90% gone now, after 18 months. I remain hopeful for a complete recovery!

 

[Bill Bauer]

I did comment to him that with foam earplugs in, I did not hear total silence

If it wasn't hissing, what did you hear?

BTW Bill, my current T is close to 90% gone now, after 18 months.

I am very glad that you continue to improve!

 

[jjflyman]

If it wasn't hissing, what did you hear?

Well, kind of hard to explain. I simply meant to say that after 50 years of everyday life our ears aren't like new. The noise (maybe like slight static) in a quiet room with earplugs in is quite normal, and everyone would hear *something* in that situation. It wasn't bothersome, and I NEVER heard it in everyday life, it was there before my T and after my T, and IMO everybody would hear *something* in a quiet room with earplugs in.
It was not caused by my T, and it wasn't left over from my T. My T healed 100%

 

[Bill Bauer]

The noise (maybe like slight static) in a quiet room with earplugs in is quite normal, and everyone would hear *something* in that situation.

Back then, would you say that you would not hear anything if you were to NOT wear earplugs in a quiet room?

 

[jjflyman]

Back then, would you say that you would not hear anything if you were to NOT wear earplugs in a quiet room?

Correct. After about 2 years I didn't hear any ringing, hissing or static without earplugs even in complete quiet room, it was like I never had T

 

[I who love music]

Hi,

I wanted to discuss something on my mind,

The act of tinnitus "fading", particularly with noise-induced T and any that are caused by actual damage to the inner ear.

We know that once damage is occurred, the brain keeps misfiring signals from hyperactive neurons to compensate for the lost frequencies.
Now we don't know why it fades for some people, maybe it heals partially - hair cells themselves don't regenerate.

We have no data to conclude that tinnitus is 100% gone once it arrives - as in, no longer reacts to stressful situations, no "spikes" from exercise.
Only info I got was from jjflyman who still had a very slight hiss when plugging his ears back when his T went away.

I believe that tinnitus sound can "fade" to the point of not being heard, but the brain still remains in that tinnitus mode of hyperactivity so the issue in itself is not actually resolved, the brain is still working incorrectly.

Any thoughts, maybe studies that can back this up or prove me wrong?

I don't have studies to show, but I have a story about ridding 98 percent of my T. And it's based in science.
Good luck, Terry
https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/back-to-silence.7172/

 

[Zug]

Hi,

I wanted to discuss something on my mind,

The act of tinnitus "fading", particularly with noise-induced T and any that are caused by actual damage to the inner ear.

We know that once damage is occurred, the brain keeps misfiring signals from hyperactive neurons to compensate for the lost frequencies.
Now we don't know why it fades for some people, maybe it heals partially - hair cells themselves don't regenerate.

We have no data to conclude that tinnitus is 100% gone once it arrives - as in, no longer reacts to stressful situations, no "spikes" from exercise.
Only info I got was from jjflyman who still had a very slight hiss when plugging his ears back when his T went away.

I believe that tinnitus sound can "fade" to the point of not being heard, but the brain still remains in that tinnitus mode of hyperactivity so the issue in itself is not actually resolved, the brain is still working incorrectly.

Any thoughts, maybe studies that can back this up or prove me wrong?

Your Tinnitus is very recent. At this point in time, the best thing you could do would be to stop thinking about all this stuff. I really wished someone told me that when I was in your shoes (but I probably wouldn't listen anyway...).

Best,
Zug

 

[Michellejean]

@jjflyman can I ask you what induced your T the first time, and the second time?

Much love

 

[Contrast]

Hi,

I wanted to discuss something on my mind,

The act of tinnitus "fading", particularly with noise-induced T and any that are caused by actual damage to the inner ear.

We know that once damage is occurred, the brain keeps misfiring signals from hyperactive neurons to compensate for the lost frequencies.
Now we don't know why it fades for some people, maybe it heals partially - hair cells themselves don't regenerate.

We have no data to conclude that tinnitus is 100% gone once it arrives - as in, no longer reacts to stressful situations, no "spikes" from exercise.
Only info I got was from jjflyman who still had a very slight hiss when plugging his ears back when his T went away.

I believe that tinnitus sound can "fade" to the point of not being heard, but the brain still remains in that tinnitus mode of hyperactivity so the issue in itself is not actually resolved, the brain is still working incorrectly.

Any thoughts, maybe studies that can back this up or prove me wrong?

That is one of the things researchers still have not understood about tinnitus.

 

[Rohit Saluja]

@jjflyman can I ask you what induced your T the first time, and the second time?

First time his tinnitus was caused by some loud machine, and second time by concert.

He is the only active person in the forum, whose tinnitus has completely gone away first time.

 

[SugarMagnolia]

IMO everybody would hear *something* in a quiet room with earplugs in.

Not me. Before T, I needed silence to concentrate or sleep. Any little sound annoyed me. I was hyperaware of any sound in an otherwise quiet environment. And I never heard even the faintest T sound.

 

[dpdx]

Not me. Before T, I needed silence to concentrate or sleep. Any little sound annoyed me. I was hyperaware of any sound in an otherwise quiet environment. And I never heard even the faintest T sound.

Same but with my mild T I was able to work and do things unlike now where I cant do anything.