High Dose Vitamin D3 for Tinnitus Relief

[Molan]

There is a video on YouTube of a guy claiming Vitamin D3 helped his tinnitus. Across the videos he says he takes (or took) Vitamin D3 in the range of 30,000+ IUs per day.

If anyone has tried super high dosages of Vitamin D3 for tinnitus, can you say how many IUs you took a day and for how long? And was it a tablet or a liquid?

Thanks.

The video in question is below:

 

[Mister Muso]

There is a video on YouTube of a guy claiming Vitamin D3 helped his tinnitus. Across the videos he says he takes (or took) Vitamin D3 in the range of 30,000+ IUs per day.

If anyone has tried super high dosages of Vitamin D3 for tinnitus, can you say how many IUs you took a day and for how long? And was it a tablet or a liquid?

Thanks.

Is that the same variant of D3 that helps with COVID-19? If so, sounds like a win-win.

Also, I believe it's useful to take a magnesium supplement if you are taking extra vitamin D.

 

[Greg Sacramento]

Vitamin D3 in the range of 30,000+ IUs per day.

Add the word dangerous to this and place into an internet search.

Just one of many study articles:

Hypercalcemia, hypervitaminosis A and 3-epi-25-OH-D3 levels after consumption of an "over the counter" vitamin D remedy. a case report

 

[Molan]

Is that the same variant of D3 that helps with COVID-19? If so, sounds like a win-win.

Also, I believe it's useful to take a magnesium supplement if you are taking extra vitamin D.

Yes it is, from what I gather it is very good for your immune system.

 

[Molan]

Add the word dangerous to this and place into an internet search.

Just one of many study articles:

Hypercalcemia, hypervitaminosis A and 3-epi-25-OH-D3 levels after consumption of an "over the counter" vitamin D remedy. a case report

The limit regarding Vitamin D toxicity can vary greatly depending on the study,

I have read a theory that Tinnitus caused specifically from Ear infections, might potentially respond to very high dosages of Vitamin D.

This is due to the idea that antibiotic resistant biofilms (caused by the ear infection and antibiotics taken for it) could be responsible for Tinnitus. They could settle on the auditory nerve causing it to mis-fire and generate Tinnitus sounds.

This idea of course is completely theoretical, there is no concrete evidence to support this idea yet.

Vitamin D has been shown to be potentially effective against antibiotic resistant bacteria.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6798578/

Based on this idea I wondered if huge amounts of Vitamin D could potentially have some kind of impact on Tinnitus. If this theory of antibiotic resistant biofilms on the auditory nerve was true.

Anyone who has tried high dose Vitamin D for Tinnitus please let me know.

 

[Greg Sacramento]

@Molan Not saying that vitamin D doesn't have health benefits. Certainly vitamin D deficiency isn't good - with tinnitus or not. With no reflection upon you. You are just asking a question - and as a former healthcare worker I responded.

30,000+ IUs of vitamin D per day can cause many health problems. Most vitamins should also not be taken at the same time with most medications.

https://www.hearingsol.com/faq/name-vitamins-cause-tinnitus/

The IOM's safe upper limit for daily vitamin D intake is 4,000 IU. A person who ingests too much vitamin D may feel nauseated, weak and lose their appetite. Getting 10,000 to 40,000 IU of vitamin D in a day could lead to acute toxicity.

Most vitamins should not be taken at the same time with most medications.

https://vitamindwiki.com/Side+Effects+and+Warning+for+vitamin+D

https://www.easy-immune-health.com/magnesium-and-vitamin-d.html

Vitamin D Interaction With Prescription Drugs 1 Water Pills. If you are taking a diuretic, also called a water pill,... 2 Antacids. Vitamin D can increase the body's absorption of aluminum,... 3 Heart Medications. Calcium affects the heart and because vitamin D increases calcium levels.

Vitamin A toxicity, can cause nausea, vomiting, dizziness, blurred vision, hypertension crisis - organ and artery damage and poor muscle coordination.

Rare, but tinnitus may be a symptom of early hypercalcemia. The Hypercalcemia may also increase chances of coma, cardiac arrhythmias, renal insufficiency, and other serious problems. Therefore Excess of Vitamin D can cause ringing in your ears. You should take this in a limited amount.

 

[GBB]

I've been doing vitamin D a few days at 20k IU and if anything I've spiked. In the video he actually says he noticed the benefit in the first few days, so I think if it was going to help me it would have by now. I'm discontinuing as there's no reason to take this much vitamin D otherwise.

 

[B18c1vtech]

About a week ago, I took Magnesium, D3, and C all at once, and noticed a significant reduction in my tinnitus. If I had to guess, it was mostly from the Vitamin D, as I do not take this often. Could have been placebo. I haven't been taking many supplements recently, but I'll try the vitamin D again and report back.

 

[Molan]

I've been doing vitamin D a few days at 20k IU and if anything I've spiked. In the video he actually says he noticed the benefit in the first few days, so I think if it was going to help me it would have by now. I'm discontinuing as there's no reason to take this much vitamin D otherwise.

I'm sorry for your experience. This is what I feared because if the dosages he was taking was effective for the majority, it would have been major news on Tinnitus Talk long before I posted this thread.

This is why I want to try a super high one off dose to see what happens.

 

[Molan]

About a week ago, I took Magnesium, D3, and C all at once, and noticed a significant reduction in my tinnitus. If I had to guess, it was mostly from the Vitamin D, as I do not take this often. Could have been placebo. I haven't been taking many supplements recently, but I'll try the vitamin D again and report back.

Thank you for your useful report. May I ask how much Vitamin D3 did you take?

 

[GBB]

I'm sorry for your experience. This is what I feared because if the dosages he was taking was effective for the majority, it would have been major news on Tinnitus Talk long before I posted this thread.

This is why I want to try a super high one off dose to see what happens.

No worries, I just wanted to try it, no need for apologies. What didn't work for me may work for you - I hope it does!

 

[Molan]

@Molan Not saying that vitamin D doesn't have health benefits. Certainly vitamin D deficiency isn't good - with tinnitus or not. With no reflection upon you. You are just asking a question - and as a former healthcare worker I responded.

30,000+ IUs of vitamin D per day can cause many health problems. Most vitamins should also not be taken at the same time with most medications.

https://www.hearingsol.com/faq/name-vitamins-cause-tinnitus/

The IOM's safe upper limit for daily vitamin D intake is 4,000 IU. A person who ingests too much vitamin D may feel nauseated, weak and lose their appetite. Getting 10,000 to 40,000 IU of vitamin D in a day could lead to acute toxicity.

Most vitamins should not be taken at the same time with most medications.

https://vitamindwiki.com/Side+Effects+and+Warning+for+vitamin+D

https://www.easy-immune-health.com/magnesium-and-vitamin-d.html

Vitamin D Interaction With Prescription Drugs 1 Water Pills. If you are taking a diuretic, also called a water pill,... 2 Antacids. Vitamin D can increase the body's absorption of aluminum,... 3 Heart Medications. Calcium affects the heart and because vitamin D increases calcium levels.

Vitamin A toxicity, can cause nausea, vomiting, dizziness, blurred vision, hypertension crisis - organ and artery damage and poor muscle coordination.

Rare, but tinnitus may be a symptom of early hypercalcemia. The Hypercalcemia may also increase chances of coma, cardiac arrhythmias, renal insufficiency, and other serious problems. Therefore Excess of Vitamin D can cause ringing in your ears. You should take this in a limited amount.

To summarize,

- The amount of Vitamin D you can take before reaching toxicity levels has varied greatly over the decades and varies between country to country. What is considered toxic in one is consider fine or too low in another.

There have also been absurd maximum level tolerance levels stated in the past. For example Merck once said 2000 - 3000 IUs was the maximum you could take before levels became toxic. In a pre-industrial society most people were getting between 10,000 - 20,000 IUs everyday in the summer by being outside all day.

A study in 1981 showed pregnant women being given colossal doses of Vitamin D seemingly without negative side effects.

They were given 2 doses of 600,000 IUs of D3, one in the 7th and the other in the 8th month of pregnancy.

Effects of Vitamin D Supplementation in Pregnancy

- Now to be clear I 'am NOT advocating people take gigantic amounts of Vitamin D3 on a regular basis. However I 'am personally willing to try a very high one off dose and see what happens.

I just need to find out what is highest amount of D3 anyone has ever taken for their tinnitus and plan from there.

 

[Molan]

No worries, I just wanted to try it, no need for apologies. What didn't work for me may work for you - I hope it does!

Thank you and I hope your tinnitus calms down and returns to baseline soon.

May I ask what form did you take the D3 in? Was it a tablet, liquid or D3 lamp?

 

[B18c1vtech]

Thank you for your useful report. May I ask how much Vitamin D3 did you take?

It was either 1,000 IU or 2,000 IU. I wouldn't go too crazy with it. I took 1,000 IU today, and my tinnitus seems quieter, but again I really can't say if it's due to the D3 or not. My tinnitus intensity varies wildly throughout the day, and is affected by lots of factors. I may try taking it on a more regular basis, to see if I can get a better idea of how it works. I'll let you know if I notice any further improvements with taking it.

 

[GBB]

May I ask what form did you take the D3 in? Was it a tablet, liquid or D3 lamp?

I took a pill with K2 and Phosphorus.

 

[Molan]

It was either 1,000 IU or 2,000 IU. I wouldn't go too crazy with it. I took 1,000 IU today, and my tinnitus seems quieter, but again I really can't say if it's due to the D3 or not. My tinnitus intensity varies wildly throughout the day, and is affected by lots of factors. I may try taking it on a more regular basis, to see if I can get a better idea of how it works. I'll let you know if I notice any further improvements with taking it.

Thanks for letting me know, I have taken 10,000 IUs in the past for a day or two but noticed zero effect on my tinnitus. I'm currently getting around 5000 IUs a day using a liquid D3 spray. Again no difference.

I don't know if you saw the study I posted in response to Greg Sacramento, but pregnant women were given a single dose of 600,000 IUs. Once in the 7th and the other in the 8th month of pregnancy. So that's 1.2 million IUs of Vitamin D3 that was absorbed. Seemingly without any negative side effects.

So I'm personally thinking I may try a one off dose of something like this and see what happens. Unless I can find someone who has taken more for their tinnitus without improvement.

 

[Molan]

I took a pill with K2 and Phosphorus.

Ah so it was an all in one pill. Thanks for that.

I'm no expert on the matter but apparently D3 in liquid spray form is better absorbed by the body compared to a pill. I do not know for sure how true that really is. I know it is recommend to take a spray with a tablet of K2 for better absorption. So it makes sense why people would take an all in one.

Thanks for letting me know anyway!

 

[B18c1vtech]

Thanks for letting me know, I have taken 10,000 IUs in the past for a day or two but noticed zero effect on my tinnitus. I'm currently getting around 5000 IUs a day using a liquid D3 spray. Again no difference.

I don't know if you saw the study I posted in response to Greg Sacramento, but pregnant women were given a single dose of 600,000 IUs. Once in the 7th and the other in the 8th month of pregnancy. So that's 1.2 million IUs of Vitamin D3 that was absorbed. Seemingly without any negative side effects.

So I'm personally thinking I may try a one off dose of something like this and see what happens. Unless I can find someone who has taken more for their tinnitus without improvement.

I'm sure it wouldn't hurt short term, but I'm no doctor. Is your tinnitus affected easily by factors such as your diet, sleep, stress, etc? My tinnitus can be easily worsened by a poor diet, lack of sleep, and many other things. Because tinnitus is so complicated, I don't believe that any one supplement will work for everyone, but if you find that you're deficient in some way, you could see huge improvements by taking a specific supplement. A blood test would help you determine if you're getting enough vitamins, and find any imbalance in your system.

 

[Molan]

I'm sure it wouldn't hurt short term, but I'm no doctor. Is your tinnitus affected easily by factors such as your diet, sleep, stress, etc? My tinnitus can be easily worsened by a poor diet, lack of sleep, and many other things. Because tinnitus is so complicated, I don't believe that any one supplement will work for everyone, but if you find that you're deficient in some way, you could see huge improvements by taking a specific supplement. A blood test would help you determine if you're getting enough vitamins, and find any imbalance in your system.

Not sleeping well definitely impacts my tinnitus but diet not so much (that I've noticed).

I agree not one supplement will work for everyone because it seems there are so many different causes. However if the theory about antibiotic (resistant) biofilms causing most cases of tinnitus is true, then 'theoretically' removing the biofilm should lessen or even remove it completely.

However it likely wouldn't help those with tinnitus from other causes like loud noise exposure.

Yes when this Coronavirus mess is behind us I definitely want to get my vitamin levels checked.

 

[B18c1vtech]

Not sleeping well definitely impacts my tinnitus but diet not so much (that I've noticed).

I agree not one supplement will work for everyone because it seems there are so many different causes. However if the theory about antibiotic (resistant) biofilms causing most cases of tinnitus is true, then 'theoretically' removing the biofilm should lessen or even remove it completely.

However it likely wouldn't help those with tinnitus from other causes like loud noise exposure.

Yes when this Coronavirus mess is behind us I definitely want to get my vitamin levels checked.

I agree. Thankfully the majority of my tinnitus is (probably) not caused from hearing loss, but other issues with my health. I think those with noise induced tinnitus have a harder time changing their tinnitus severity.

Let me know if the D3 ends up helping you if you do decide to take it.

 

[Molan]

I agree. Thankfully the majority of my tinnitus is (probably) not caused from hearing loss, but other issues with my health. I think those with noise induced tinnitus have a harder time changing their tinnitus severity.

Let me know if the D3 ends up helping you if you do decide to take it.

I assure you when I try this I will post back in this thread (and maybe create a new one) to let others know what happened.

Based on my history I'm not optimistic, but I'm more hopeful than usual because I haven't (yet) found anyone taking anywhere near the doses I'm thinking of for their tinnitus.

Reminds of that scene from the first Matrix, where Trinity says to Neo that no-one has ever done this before. Then he replies 'that's why it's going to work!'.

Really hope that will be true in this case!

 

[josh77]

High doses of Vitamin D3 are also known to make tinnitus worse. But who knows... maybe.

 

[nocticolor]

Interesting. I took 5000 IU every day (the bottle said to take it every five days, I'm just an idiot who apparently can't read) in December because I caught COVID-19 and I felt like my tinnitus was less bad. Probably only an coincidence, though.

 

[ZaneBerry]

I've stumbled upon this study. Has anyone seen it before? Apparently, SSHL showed a correlation with low blood vitamin D levels.

Investigation of vitamin D levels in patients with Sudden Sensory-Neural Hearing Loss and its effect on treatment

Anyone who wants to take a look and maybe come up with an explanation?

 

[mohn]

@ZaneBerry - looks like maintaining D3 level at 25.71 ± 11.21 ng/ml (14 to 36 ng/ml) is a safe bet.

 

[Matchbox]

I think you can actually lose bone with too much vitamin D (and ironically without it!)

It's more of a hormone than a vitamin anyways.

If you are "deficient" then yeah, it would make sense, your immune system needs it as a check and balance.

If your levels are normal, I don't see this helping. It modulates inflammation pathways, it doesn't prevent or limit it.

Same with taking lots and lots of Turmeric. Sure, it's anti-inflammatory to a point where it starts behaving more like high dose Aspirin (granted that'd be a LOT).