How Do You Find Forgiveness When Your Tinnitus Was Caused by Another Person/Source?

[all to gain]

I wonder if any people with tinnitus have gone out and sought revenge?

I felt very revengeful last night! Won't do anything though, except fill in the form to highlight an ototoxic reaction to the medication i was given. Will make sure my Dr gets sent a copy too. May cause friction as he is friendly with the family.

 

[JohnAdams]

I wonder if any people with tinnitus have gone out and sought revenge?

I felt very revengeful last night! Won't do anything though, except fill in the form to highlight an ototoxic reaction to the medication i was given. Will make sure my Dr gets sent a copy too. May cause friction as he is friendly with the family.

Go hire a medical malpractice lawyer and sue the shit out of him.

 

[all to gain]

Go hire a medical malpractice lawyer and sue the shit out of him.

It would cost a fortune and would be hard to prove. The patient thinks it was the meds, but the doctor doesn't agree! Even if he does, he's not going to say so. He did say too much serotonin had gone to the brain, but that's all.

I'm pretty sure it was the meds though. Underlying stress may have allowed the meds to do their nasty thing a bit more easily though. But the doctor could just say it was all to do with stress or depression and not the meds at all.

At the very, very least, when i asked the doctor about side effects three times, I shouldn't have been told no, no, no. Even then he could say that he did tell me or that I should have looked at the insert in the packet.

It's all in the past now, but it has ruined my life and hence the lives of my kids. And for all the talk about this or that research, we are decades off of a cure for tinnitus.

 

[GoatSheep]

I don't believe my tinnitus was caused by someone else. But I wonder if my symptoms weren't exacerbated by the psychiatrists at the psych ward loading me up on serotonergic drugs.

When I went in all I had was ringing. By the time I left I had ear fullness in both ears and hyperacusis. I had already had tinnitus for two weeks before that. I know symptoms obviously can progress so that wasn't necessarily it... I try not to dwell on it.

 

[JohnAdams]

It would cost a fortune and would be hard to prove. The patient thinks it was the meds, but the doctor doesn't agree! Even if he does, he's not going to say so. He did say too much serotonin had gone to the brain, but that's all.

I'm pretty sure it was the meds though. Underlying stress may have allowed the meds to do their nasty thing a bit more easily though. But the doctor could just say it was all to do with stress or depression and not the meds at all.

At the very, very least, when i asked the doctor about side effects three times, I shouldn't have been told no, no, no. Even then he could say that he did tell me or that I should have looked at the insert in the packet.

It's all in the past now, but it has ruined my life and hence the lives of my kids. And for all the talk about this or that research, we are decades off of a cure for tinnitus.

How old are your kids?

 

[all to gain]

How old are your kids?

Very young, 3.5 and 7 months. I'm an older Dad, so knew i had to be in good shape and was, until this happened.

 

[Bndsmheowqhe]

Go hire a medical malpractice lawyer and sue the shit out of him.

I second this but he may have to call around. A lot of attorneys I spoke with don't give a s**t about hearing injuries.

 

[JohnAdams]

Very young, 3.5 and 7 months. I'm an older Dad, so knew i had to be in good shape and was, until this happened.

my son is about 3.5

really makes things interesting.

we have major responsibility.

 

[all to gain]

my son is about 3.5

really makes things interesting.

we have major responsibility.

It makes things hard. We do have major responsibility.

I don't know how old you are John, but from what I have read you are dealing with your tinnitus much better than I am. Either yours is quieter, a nicer sound or you have a better mentality for dealing with this.

I'm really not dealing well at all. Fear for my kids' future.

 

[all to gain]

I second this but he may have to call around. A lot of attorneys I spoke with don't give a s**t about hearing injuries.

How would I even prove that I have tinnitus?

Having OCD as well, they could just so, "Oh well, he's just mentally ill. Making it all up."

 

[JohnAdams]

I don't know how old you are John, but from what I have read you are dealing with your tinnitus much better than I am. Either yours is quieter, a nicer sound or you have a better mentality for dealing with this.

Mine goes away or goes down to almost nothing much of the time. It does spike up frequently and I have hyperacusis when it does.

 

[all to gain]

Mine goes away or goes down to almost nothing much of the time. It does spike up frequently and I have hyperacusis when it does.

So do you actually hear real silence sometimes? Is it in both ears?

Has it always been like that or is it due to the mega doses of supps you take?

 

[Bndsmheowqhe]

How would I even prove that I have tinnitus?

Having OCD as well, they could just so, "Oh well, he's just mentally ill. Making it all up."

Medical history or mental health treatment records are at least a start.

"Oh well, he's just mentally ill. Making it all up" is one of the reasons I've stopped talking to most of my friends and family.

 

[all to gain]

Just to mention, I read recently doctors are required to send some kind of report "somewhere" when a patient has an adverse drug reaction. I've been meaning to contact the hospital that gave me the ototoxic drug that gave me tinnitus, and have them send me a copy. -- Wish I had more details to share, but thought I'd at least leave a "heads up".

This is the UK equivalent: https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk/

 

[all to gain]

Feeling very unforgiving today! Looking into making a formal complaint and maybe further. Got to move quickly though. Won't bring me silence though.

 

[Mymlan]

I don't know who caused my tinnitus, but I stupidly walked into a tunnel near a large building suite when suddenly a loud jackhammer (130 dB) started out of nowhere. I was very unlucky, wrong place, wrong time

 

[JohnAdams]

It's a requirement Matthew 6:15:
But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

 

[Rajin]

@Bam Thank you for asking. I'm afraid I'm not doing very well at all. Things are very bad....

Hopefully we will get some help soon. I am sorry to hear this.

 

[Yuuls]

I never had any tinnitus issues in my life. One Saturday while I was getting ready for a birthday party that I didn't even want to go to (and it ended up being extremely lame anyways) I got water stuck in my left ear. I tried a bunch of cures from the internet, jumping around, laying down on my left side, using a blow dryer lightly, banging my head a bit against a soft surface (my mattress - very gently but probably did some damage here).

I also went to a concert the day before (Friday) and it was one of my coworkers who had a free ticket that invited me to go. Didn't wear ear plugs (didn't know it was a thing ) and I was heavily debating going out that night anyways.

My left ear feels full and itchy constantly, as if something is about to pop out of there but both ENT's I've seen say there's nothing there. Hearing is fine.

I can't forgive myself for going to both events. I am kind of mad at my friends for even inviting me out (it isn't their fault in any way) but I wish they never invited me. My life is absolutely ruined. I'm only 26 years old and feel absolutely disabled. All my dreams of wanting a big family, going to grad school, absolutely ruined - all because of a stupid weekend that wasn't even fun.

 

[Lilah]

Forgiveness happens over time. Most likely the people/sources who caused your tinnitus did not mean to cause it, so you have to remember that.

 

[Gman]

For me, forgiveness can only begin when the other party accepts responsibility. Unfortunately, doctors are not in the practice of accepting responsibility of any kind. And unless you lawyer up with lots of cash, there's nothing that will change that. Hence zero forgiveness.

 

[Gman]

I never had any tinnitus issues in my life. One Saturday while I was getting ready for a birthday party that I didn't even want to go to (and it ended up being extremely lame anyways) I got water stuck in my left ear. I tried a bunch of cures from the internet, jumping around, laying down on my left side, using a blow dryer lightly, banging my head a bit against a soft surface (my mattress - very gently but probably did some damage here).

I also went to a concert the day before (Friday) and it was one of my coworkers who had a free ticket that invited me to go. Didn't wear ear plugs (didn't know it was a thing ) and I was heavily debating going out that night anyways.

My left ear feels full and itchy constantly, as if something is about to pop out of there but both ENT's I've seen say there's nothing there. Hearing is fine.

I can't forgive myself for going to both events. I am kind of mad at my friends for even inviting me out (it isn't their fault in any way) but I wish they never invited me. My life is absolutely ruined. I'm only 26 years old and feel absolutely disabled. All my dreams of wanting a big family, going to grad school, absolutely ruined - all because of a stupid weekend that wasn't even fun.

Was it the concert or the water getting in the ear that triggered it do you think?

Anyway give it some time, it's way too early to tell. Don't stress too much. There's a chance it will go away. Don't fiddle around with your ears or put anything in them like q tips, or earphones etc.

 

[Yuuls]

Forgot to add my idiot upstairs neighbors who vacuum their hardwood floor at 10PM, watch loud movies from 5-2AM, stomp around like elephants and move furniture around on the daily that led me to buying noise cancelling headphones and using them daily to block out their noises so I could manage to not go crazy.

And a big F you to my landlord who refuses to do anything about it despite my entire apartment complaining to him on numerous occasions. A simple rug on the floor or actual enforcement after the "silence after 10PM" rule in our building would have gone a long way

Now I am trapped in this apartment. Just me and my supplements that probably don't, white noise that is driving me up the wall, while all my friends are all out enjoying their lives, going to restaurants without fear, dating. I'll probably end up in an alley somewhere in a few years, drugged up and hoping maybe a car will run me over or an accidental overdose will occur.

Maybe I'll lose my mind enough to actually have the courage to put an end to it all myself.

 

[Yuuls]

Was it the concert or the water getting in the ear that triggered it do you think?

Anyway give it some time, it's way too early to tell. Don't stress too much. There's a chance it will go away. Don't fiddle around with your ears or put anything in them like q tips, or earphones etc.

I have a feeling it was the water. I've been to maybe 3 concerts last year, all in giant arenas and I was never close to speakers. I've never had Tinnitus after a concert. I didn't have any fullness or anything after the last one I went to either.

I have the ringing in both ears but the pressure and weird sensations - tickling, feeling as if something is jammed in there - is all in the left ear. I think it was the wind blowing from my blowdryer that messed something up big time

I will never forgive myself for this. I ruined my own life. I was unhappy before but this is a terrible punishment.
Doesn't help that after my parents die I will have absolutely no one in this world to lean on, no cousins, no siblings, no spouse, no aunts or uncles or grandparents. I'll be completely alone.

I can't stop thinking about how I single handedly ruined everything I had going for me and how different today would be if I had just chosen to stay in that weekend.

 

[Gman]

I have a feeling it was the water. I've been to maybe 3 concerts last year, all in giant arenas and I was never close to speakers. I've never had Tinnitus after a concert. I didn't have any fullness or anything after the last one I went to either.

I have the ringing in both ears but the pressure and weird sensations - tickling, feeling as if something is jammed in there - is all in the left ear. I think it was the wind blowing from my blowdryer that messed something up big time

I will never forgive myself for this. I ruined my own life. I was unhappy before but this is a terrible punishment.
Doesn't help that after my parents die I will have absolutely no one in this world to lean on, no cousins, no siblings, no spouse, no aunts or uncles or grandparents. I'll be completely alone.

I can't stop thinking about how I single handedly ruined everything I had going for me and how different today would be if I had just chosen to stay in that weekend.

Obviously I'm not a doctor, but it could just be your middle ear muscles being sensitive from what you were doing. Doesn't necessarily mean damage has been done.

Hopefully the ENTs looked closely enough and were competent. You can always get another opinion, up to you.

Seriously go easy on yourself. Don't stress so much, because it's not good either. Some people have gotten tinnitus from stress, believe it or not. I put widely available over the counter earwax drops in my ears, felt it get stuck in my ear (behind the wax I guess), shook my head side to side, and freaked out a bit and that's what triggered mine.

Relax, wait and see. Many people get tinnitus and have it go away. It's way too early for you to jump to conclusions.

 

[Mymlan]

I'm dealing with a lot of self hate

 

[all to gain]

For me, forgiveness can only begin when the other party accepts responsibility. Unfortunately, doctors are not in the practice of accepting responsibility of any kind. And unless you lawyer up with lots of cash, there's nothing that will change that. Hence zero forgiveness.

Drs are 1. probably taught never to accept responsibility as they could get sued and 2. probably don't think they could have possibly done anything wrong.

I think my doctor knows he screwed up but won't outright admit it.

I screwed up too by being too naive and too trusting in my doctor and his so-called expertise. I should have trusted myself but didn't.

 

[all to gain]

I'm dealing with a lot of self hate

Me too!

 

[all to gain]

Most likely the people/sources who caused your tinnitus did not mean to cause it, so you have to remember that.

Maybe so, but their actions/advise did directly cause my tinnitus. And they, my GP, won't even accept that the drugs that caused it can actually cause it. There is plenty of evidence and literature out there though that they can.

 

[Gman]

Drs are 1. probably taught never to accept responsibility as they could get sued and 2. probably don't think they could have possibly done anything wrong.

I think my doctor knows he screwed up but won't outright admit it.

I screwed up too by being too naive and too trusting in my doctor and his so-called expertise. I should have trusted myself but didn't.

When I see a doctor now, I see them as someone who I manipulate to get the desired result I want. I usually know what I want and steer them into giving it to me.

Everything they recommend or prescribe that I'm unsure of, I question, scrutinise and research extensively before committing to. Hence most things I've ignored or prescriptions have gone into the trash.

It's a pity though. Prior to all this I had never had a bad experience with a doctor and that's why I was so trusting. Never again.