I Invented a Sound That Knocked Out My Tinnitus

[AZeurotuner]

Google sonic attack in Cuba

I never said Cuba did it, it was in Cuba. Truth be known it was Russia making our diplomats leave and to make the U.S. suspect Cuba of it.

I'm well aware of what happened in Cuba. In all likelihood it wasn't an attack, the media sensationalized the incident, which was likely an accidental cross of two subsonic frequencies.

 

[JohnAdams]

That's quite a different scenario than what Mr. Case is referring to... Plus, the general consensus regarding that "attack" is that it was likely an accidental cross between two frequencies, such as an ultrasonic jammer and ultrasonic transmitter.

lol WHAT!? there is no general consensus!

 

[AZeurotuner]

This thread is full of conspiracy theories and pseudo-science.

lol WHAT!? there is no general consensus!

"lol" nothing....

https://spectrum.ieee.org/semicondu...e-sonic-weapon-used-at-the-us-embassy-in-cuba

 

[JohnAdams]

This thread is full of conspiracy theories and pseudo-science.


"lol" nothing....

https://spectrum.ieee.org/semicondu...e-sonic-weapon-used-at-the-us-embassy-in-cuba

well, that's a good source. I back down.

 

[Markku]

@R. David Case, would you be up for this sort of thing;

• Send us the uncompressed audio file via a service like WeTransfer (max 2GB file size) or MyAirBridge (max 20GB).
• We put the audio file up, handily available for download.
• Along the download, we include your instructions for what you claim are ideal conditions for listening. We should also include a disclaimer and warning about the quality of the sound; not everyone is able to listen to such harsh sound.
  
• Optionally, a person can sign up to take part in an "experiment", where they fill TFI (Tinnitus Functional Index, for which we own a license for) before starting the listening program, then 21 days (?) later when the program stops, and finally, for example, at the 3-month mark a final follow-up questionnaire.

Far from strong science, no control group or anything, but still probably better than this messing with CDs deal. Wouldn't this also reduce your workload, not having to ship things?

I have decided to disregard all of the nonsense conspiracy theories - no time for that sort of thing.

But what do people reading this thread think, would anyone want to take part in an experiment like the above?

Also... you state you have helped over 400 people reduce or eliminate their tinnitus. How many reported complete elimination of tinnitus? And how many people have you shipped the CDs to (total number of people)?

 

[Contrast]

Wikipedia has something to say about "V2k tinnitus"


My question is how does auditory brain tinnitus caused by hearing loss relate to V2k conspiracies?

 

[JohnAdams]

I am 100% behind your solar truck. I've done a little research into solar cells and that article about getting 90hp from that area over the Ranger is easily believable. this however has nothing to do with tinnitus.

many of us use masking and still listen to music and also continue to hear daily noises. how can your sounds be any more useful that road noise, fans, noise generators, speech, or music?

i'm calling bs.

 

[Champ]

I give out the CD version because there are fewer variables in the chain, and no hacking etc. The problem is it is a high quality sound mix with ultra-sonic pulses, that makes a huge file and we don't want it compressed.

wut
Your statement about high quality is nonsensical. CDs are physical hardware that become damaged and can have data become inaccessible over time on them. Lossless files are forever the same 1s and 0s.
Host and release the lossless file, its 2018 people have 150 MB/s download speeds now and if your cure works it should work when it's in it's purest form - as a file. That CD nonsense is pointless. Otherwise this is a blatant scam and you're just lying to yourself and others to keep it going by charging premiums for shipping and sending.

 

[R. David Case]

wut
Your statement about high quality is nonsensical. CDs are physical hardware that become damaged and can have data become inaccessible over time on them. Lossless files are forever the same 1s and 0s.
Host and release the lossless file, its 2018 people have 150 MB/s download speeds now and if your cure works it should work when it's in it's purest form - as a file. That CD nonsense is pointless. Otherwise this is a blatant scam and you're just lying to yourself and others to keep it going by charging premiums for shipping and sending.

Files can be hacked, stolen, changed, etc. The CD is the most secure way, but as I said the test group set up a download using dropbox and we are testing it that way too.

 

[R. David Case]

I am 100% behind your solar truck. I've done a little research into solar cells and that article about getting 90hp from that area over the Ranger is easily believable. this however has nothing to do with tinnitus.

many of us use masking and still listen to music and also continue to hear daily noises. how can your sounds be any more useful that road noise, fans, noise generators, speech, or music?

i'm calling bs.

As I said it interferes with the structure of the tinnitus, it does not mask it knocks it out. We formed the test group of over 200 to quantify how many types of tinnitus it works on, we know it works on several types ,sound induced,etc

 

[R. David Case]

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Wikipedia has something to say about "V2k tinnitus"


My question is how does auditory brain tinnitus caused by hearing loss relate to V2k conspiracies?

I am curing both, thats all I am saying

 

[R. David Case]

@R. David Case, would you be up for this sort of thing;

• Send us the uncompressed audio file via a service like WeTransfer (max 2GB file size) or MyAirBridge (max 20GB).
• We put the audio file up, handily available for download.
• Along the download, we include your instructions for what you claim are ideal conditions for listening. We should also include a disclaimer and warning about the quality of the sound; not everyone is able to listen to such harsh sound.
  
• Optionally, a person can sign up to take part in an "experiment", where they fill TFI (Tinnitus Functional Index, for which we own a license for) before starting the listening program, then 21 days (?) later when the program stops, and finally, for example, at the 3-month mark a final follow-up questionnaire.

Far from strong science, no control group or anything, but still probably better than this messing with CDs deal. Wouldn't this also reduce your workload, not having to ship things?

I have decided to disregard all of the nonsense conspiracy theories - no time for that sort of thing.

But what do people reading this thread think, would anyone want to take part in an experiment like the above?

Also... you state you have helped over 400 people reduce or eliminate their tinnitus. How many reported complete elimination of tinnitus? And how many people have you shipped the CDs to (total number of people)?

Absolutely, that's why I posted here. I would entertain that idea, we are finding it works best on sound induced tinnitus and unknown reason sudden tinnitus. I think the best place to start would be the sound induced group. We are finding the hyperacusis group can't take much sound introduced and are experimenting with bone conduction headphones since they do not go on the ear.

 

[R. David Case]

I'm well aware of what happened in Cuba. In all likelihood it wasn't an attack, the media sensationalized the incident, which was likely an accidental cross of two subsonic frequencies.

No, the state dept is trying to play down the sonic attacks because the U.S. uses these weapons and does not want the info in main stream media.

 

[Contrast]

I am curing both, thats all I am saying

How are they related, that's what I'm saying?

Hyperacusis sufferers have to deal with noise induced pain because outer hair cell nerve fibers are the culprits
https://www.ata.org/news/news/hyperacusis-related-damage-nerve-cells-inner-ear

It doesn't matter if the sound goes through the ear normally or threw the bone it still contacts the cochlea and the damaged outer hair cells.

 

[R. David Case]

Cuba really did use extremely loud ultra sound weapons to induce tinnitus.

yes, the sonic tinnitus causes brain damage, and we are finding that naturally occurring tinnitus is causing brain damage in that brain chemistry is being degraded, that is why the CD takes longer to stop tinnitus if you have had tinnitus for 20 years, if you have had tinnitus for only one year the CD works much faster.

 

[TuxedoCat]

I will try it if I can download the information from Tinnitus Talk. None of my devices (MacBook Air and an iPhone) have CD drives. Not even my car has a CD player.

Any feedback I give will be anonymous. I doubt I would sign up for an experiment using the TFI even with assurance of HIPPA compliance.

Also, I will not give out my personal information or pay $15.00 for shipping and handling.

Take it or Leave it.

Thanks and good nite.

TC

 

[Contrast]

yes, the sonic tinnitus causes brain damage, and we are finding that naturally occurring tinnitus is causing brain damage in that brain chemistry is being degraded, that is why the CD takes longer to stop tinnitus if you have had tinnitus for 20 years, if you have had tinnitus for only one year the CD works much faster.

it's a phantom signal the brain is doing.

When a veteran loses a limb they can sometimes feel the lost limb, when a hearing loss occurs the audiotory brain compensates for lost hearing. Read research on tinnitus and central gain.

hyperacusis may also have a central version being similar to phnatom pain.

tinnitus = phantom sensation of a lost limb
hyperacusis type??? = phantom pain of a lost limb

These are neurological issues but they don't add up to the V2k hypothesis.

 

[R. David Case]

it's a phantom signal the brain is doing.

When a veteran loses a limb they can sometimes feel the lost limb, when a hearing loss occurs the audiotory brain compensates for lost hearing. Read research on tinnitus and central gain.

hyperacusis may also have a central version being similar to phnatom pain.

tinnitus = phantom sensation of a lost limb
hyperacusis type??? = phantom pain of a lost limb

These are neurological issues but they don't add up to the V2k hypothesis.

Tinnitus is not a phantom sound, it is real and deafening, the medical industry does not understand tinnitus and only uses educated guesses , I have cured many that doctors said was permanent

 

[Contrast]

I'd go as far as saying you are reverse engineering Susan Shore's device, but I believe the evidence strongly suggest tinnitus is only heard by the sufferer and is infact hyperactivity in the brain making the phantom noise. Give me a time to read your post and I'll get back to answering why tinnitus is only heard by the sufferer.

 

[R. David Case]

I listened to part of your tape on sound cloud and it was very uncomfortable with high pitch screeching and electronic mechanical noises. It did not lower my tinnitus

yea, when all else fails read instructions, it can take 3 weeks to knock out some peoples tinnitus, and I guess you did not use the Koss ktx-pro1 headphones that go to 24.ooo hertz, no you didn't. That is a big problem in our test group, nobody reads instructions.

 

[R. David Case]

I'd go as far as saying you are reverse engineering Susan Shore's device, but I believe the evidence strongly suggest tinnitus is only heard by the sufferer and is infact hyperactivity in the brain making the phantom noise. Give me a time to read your post and I'll get back to answering why tinnitus is only heard by the sufferer.

I did not reverse engineer anything, I built my device in the year 2000 and just heard of her experiment about 2 months ago, and mine is more advanced, mine only uses headphones, hers needs electrodes. I never thought it would be so hard to help others , every body calls me names, a scammer, i have an agenda, you even said a wacko. almost all of my testimony letters start with "I was so skeptical of this Dave case and his CD" even Brian Douglas was read his statement

again

 

[R. David Case]

it's a phantom signal the brain is doing.

When a veteran loses a limb they can sometimes feel the lost limb, when a hearing loss occurs the audiotory brain compensates for lost hearing. Read research on tinnitus and central gain.

hyperacusis may also have a central version being similar to phnatom pain.

tinnitus = phantom sensation of a lost limb
hyperacusis type??? = phantom pain of a lost limb

These are neurological issues but they don't add up to the V2k hypothesis.

I said I was curing both, that means there is some correlation in the process, either in the brain or ear. Also I believe the electromagnetic pulses coming from the coil of the Koss KTX-PRO1 headphones also come into play as to why my CD knocks out tinnitus, so the sound mix and magnetic pulses together break the tinnitus chain

 

[JohnAdams]

Well you seem very adamant. How long do I have to listen to it per day?

 

[R. David Case]

Do you have play in all night while sleeping for at least 21 nights?
Does it work if I listen to it during waking hours. Maybe at work.

For full benefit you must use all night every night for 3 weeks, The sound changes after a few days and becomes soothing and will put you in a deep sleep.

 

[Julien87]

This whole thing is really fishy. And I think listening to this awful sound for hours every night with headphones may be dangerous for some people.

 

[R. David Case]

Well you seem very adamant. How long do I have to listen to it per day?

You must use it all night every night for 3 weeks for full benefit, you can use in day but when your sleeping there are no distractions

 

[R. David Case]

This whole thing is really fishy. And I think listening to this awful sound for hours every night with headphones may be dangerous for some people.

We are having a high success rate with sound induced tinnitus like yours, just so you know.

You are wrong and just assuming things, I have been using it for 18 years and have got back my high frequency range hearing, sleep better than ever, increased cognitive ability because of the deep sleep,etc YOU MUST understand that at first it is a horrible sound but after a few days changes and becomes soothing. I wound never recommend anything that was dangerous and I have not had one bad side effect reported in all these years, ONLY good side effects.

 

[Julien87]

Even if it works for you, this does not mean it is appropriate for other people. I know some who have been seriously harmed by this kind of "therapy".

 

[Bam]

We are having a high success rate with sound induced tinnitus like yours, just so you know.

You are wrong and just assuming things, I have been using it for 18 years and have got back my high frequency range hearing, sleep better than ever, increased cognitive ability because of the deep sleep,etc YOU MUST understand that at first it is a horrible sound but after a few days changes and becomes soothing. I wound never recommend anything that was dangerous and I have not had one bad side effect reported in all these years, ONLY good side effects.View attachment 25290

Am I understanding this correctly? It doesn't matter what frequency your tinnitus is this bad boy sound will take it out for good after just 3 weeks?

 

[R. David Case]

Even if it works for you, this does not mean it is appropriate for other people. I know some who have been seriously harmed by this kind of "therapy".

This kind of therapy has never existed before, you like others are assuming it's just another masking sound or white noise etc. This is only available through me and is not anywhere else. It is not dangerous.