I Invented a Sound That Knocked Out My Tinnitus

[Capstan]

Interesting, I never gave a lot of credit to Tinnitus Mix but I actually had a reduction of noise distortion sleeping in my kitchen which has weird noises because of refrigerator and clocks and water stuff...

I wonder now if it could work... I might add it to my roadmap for healing. One of the stuff I may try.

R. David Case, is Tinnitus Mix suitable for tinnitus around 1800Hz-2400Hz? Because it seems to be suitable for higher frequency tinnitus.

@Zud what is your tinnitus like?

People please be careful with this stuff. Noise can cause more damage. I believe sound therapy caused me dysacusis at higher frequencies.

 

[Capstan]

Please avoid sound therapy. It will hurt you.

How are you doing Phat Tuna?

 

[rei]

Used this for close to two months and no progress at all.

 

[MRItechssuck]

I find the mix useful as a distraction background noise and I believe it suppresses my tinnitus for a minute after turning the sound off... but that's it.

Some of those YouTube, or other nature sounds... for tinnitus are more annoying for me... this is not a silver bullet... just a sound file that could help.

I would like the specifics of @Capstan... loudnesss... what sounds you used, etc.. no one wants to get worse.

Information sharing is key...

If I had known about MRIs... two pieces of foam for 20 minutes could have saved me a lifetime of grief.

 

[linearb]

Used this for close to two months and no progress at all.

I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.

 

[rei]

I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.

Yeah, but at least the government's satellites can no longer interfere with my brain.

 

[Capstan]

it was totally gone at one point but restarted after I tried Tinnitus Mix

Another victim of Tinnitus Mix.

 

[Capstan]

I find the mix useful as a distraction background noise and I believe it suppresses my tinnitus for a minute after turning the sound off... but that's it.

Some of those YouTube, or other nature sounds... for tinnitus are more annoying for me... this is not a silver bullet... just a sound file that could help.

I would like the specifics of @Capstan... loudnesss... what sounds you used, etc.. no one wants to get worse.

Information sharing is key...

If I had known about MRIs... two pieces of foam for 20 minutes could have saved me a lifetime of grief.

I used pink noise 4k on YouTube. I played it at masking level - didn't think it was very loud. Played on my PC speakers. It was no louder than playing music but my feeling it is more damaging because it's a constant broadband assault like Tinnitus Mix. My ears felt funny after listening that was the first clue. I thought that meant it was working, boy was I wrong.

Stop using it, it's impossible it can help.

 

[FGG]

Another victim of Tinnitus Mix.

Mine eventually settled back to baseline thankfully but I didn't persist when it started to get bad.

 

[linearb]

Yeah, but at least the government's satellites can no longer interfere with my brain.

That explains my problems, likely, then, since I never used it.

Another victim of Tinnitus Mix.

Hey @Contrast why isn't this on your radar as an alt-health thing we should be Very Worried about? Lack of financial gain doesn't mean no one is harmed.

 

[R. David Case]

I will not use headphones.

Have you heard from anyone who has just played your file via speakers?

Yes, but it takes longer, it works 90% better with the Koss KTX-PRO1 headphones.

 

[R. David Case]

That explains my problems, likely, then, since I never used it.

Hey @Contrast why isn't this on your radar as an alt-health thing we should be Very Worried about? Lack of financial gain doesn't mean no one is harmed.

If one has reactive tinnitus sound therapy in general may not work and may cause temporary spikes, nobody has been harmed by my therapy.

 

[R. David Case]

Another victim of Tinnitus Mix.

If you have reactive tinnitus sound therapies in general may not help you and may cause a temporary spike.

 

[R. David Case]

I used pink noise 4k on YouTube. I played it at masking level - didn't think it was very loud. Played on my PC speakers. It was no louder than playing music but my feeling it is more damaging because it's a constant broadband assault like Tinnitus Mix. My ears felt funny after listening that was the first clue. I thought that meant it was working, boy was I wrong.

Stop using it, it's impossible it can help.

You did not follow instructions.

 

[Capstan]

You did not follow instructions.

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Stop, just stop pushing this line of "treatment".

 

[linearb]

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Yes, always blame the user for not reading the incantation correctly when the spell does not work.

It is known.

 

[R. David Case]

Stop, just stop pushing this line of "treatment".

I have helped hundreds around the world and will not stop because you want me to, I get letters and emails every week saying how I saved their lives.If it did not help you just don't play it, it's that simple.

 

[R. David Case]

Yes, always blame the user for not reading the incantation correctly when the spell does not work.

It is known.

You are right, there is something that is not quantifiable in Tinnitus Mix, it is stopping hyperacusis, stopping tinnitus, stopping the condition of hearing voices, and restoring hearing in members of many groups. It amazes me every day!

 

[linearb]

You are right, there is something that is not quantifiable in Tinnitus Mix

So you admit this is magic, and could never be demonstrated to be effective in a double blind RCT?

Cool, nothing more to discuss then.

People recover from hyperacusis and tinnitus spontaneously all the time, and if you think some audio mix is effective for people "hearing voices", uhm, well. I'm not even touching that one. Hearing voices is not a manifestation of tinnitus in any clinical dx sheet I've ever seen, but it is a very common indication of various altered states of mental processing including paranoid schizophrenia.

 

[GlennS]

Hearing voices is not a manifestation of tinnitus in any clinical dx sheet I've ever seen, but it is a very common indication of various altered states of mental processing including paranoid schizophrenia.

The most important facet of mental illness is that those who are mentally ill are rarely capable of acknowledging such. It's sort of like dunning-kruger where incompetents never realize they are incompetent. The reason I'm pointing this out is that calling someone out for being mentally ill is pissing in the wind. They are incapable of self reflecting enough to accept it.

For instance, L Ron Hubbard made it a key facet of Dianetics to declare war against the psychiatric profession. And it makes sense because the ego feels assaulted if someone came up to you and said you were a damaged person. Someone who is genuinely healthy doesn't spend a lot of time attacking the psychiatry. It's an obvious defense-mechanism.

 

[Bndsmheowqhe]

The most important facet of mental illness is that those who are mentally ill are rarely capable of acknowledging such. It's sort of like dunning-kruger where incompetents never realize they are incompetent. The reason I'm pointing this out is that calling someone out for being mentally ill is pissing in the wind. They are incapable of self reflecting enough to accept it.

For instance, L Ron Hubbard made it a key facet of Dianetics to declare war against the psychiatric profession. And it makes sense because the ego feels assaulted if someone came up to you and said you were a damaged person. Someone who is genuinely healthy doesn't spend a lot of time attacking the psychiatry. It's an obvious defense-mechanism.

In my experience, people with legitimate psychiatric disorders are usually well aware of their issues. The real problem is the significant percentage of the population suffering from cluster b personality disorders. Technically they're not mentally ill but rather damaged on a fundamental level in a way that can never be corrected. In many cases mental health practitioners won't even give a formal diagnosis of BPD to women because they don't want to 'stigmatize' them. If you've ever encountered a 'Karen' you've met a woman with BPD.

 

[GlennS]

In my experience, people with legitimate psychiatric disorders are usually well aware of their issues.

Not when they are clinging to paranoid ideas that have come to define their sense of self, and so it functions like a religion. I think that is true of Mr. Case and I think my own sister is in that bucket, unfortunately.

If you've ever encountered a 'Karen' you've met a woman with BPD.

There's a fine line between having a bad personality and a clinical mental illness. Few of us are so self-actualized that we're ready to ascend in the lotus position to nirvana. Obviously when it comes to tinnitus most of us are in some shape or form depressed, for instance.

I think the most important quality anyone can have is humility. Only when you have humility can you learn and self-improve. Most of the arguments I get into are with people who are so stubborn in their positions that they won't even entertain the notion they could be wrong about something.

That makes discourse on the internet very difficult because on the internet everyone always believes they are right and nobody ever changes their mind. I mean, I've been on the internet since 1993 so I have a very broad perspective on this phenomenon. It's really changed how we think and interact as a society--and not in a good way.

 

[Bndsmheowqhe]

Not when they are clinging to paranoid ideas that have come to define their sense of self, and so it functions like a religion. I think that is true of Mr. Case and I think my own sister is in that bucket, unfortunately.

There's a fine line between having a bad personality and a clinical mental illness. Few of us are so self-actualized that we're ready to ascend in the lotus position to nirvana. Obviously when it comes to tinnitus most of us are in some shape or form depressed, for instance.

I think the most important quality anyone can have is humility. Only when you have humility can you learn and self-improve. Most of the arguments I get into are with people who are so stubborn in their positions that they won't even entertain the notion they could be wrong about something.

That makes discourse on the internet very difficult because on the internet everyone always believes they are right and nobody ever changes their mind. I mean, I've been on the internet since 1993 so I have a very broad perspective on this phenomenon. It's really changed how we think and interact as a society--and not in a good way.

Personality disorders exist on a spectrum. They are distinct from proper mental illness in the sense that the brain is functioning properly but the programing is faulty. That's why it's worth making the distinction. Genuine Mental Illness is a physical condition that in many cases can corrected with the proper medical treatment. Individuals with Personality disorders are basically just shitty human beings that can't be fixed. Although in some instances if they are intelligent enough they can still be highly productive and make a significant contribution to society. I completely agree that the internet (in particular Social media) has brought out the worst in a lot of people.

 

[R. David Case]

So you admit this is magic, and could never be demonstrated to be effective in a double blind RCT?

Cool, nothing more to discuss then.

People recover from hyperacusis and tinnitus spontaneously all the time, and if you think some audio mix is effective for people "hearing voices", uhm, well. I'm not even touching that one. Hearing voices is not a manifestation of tinnitus in any clinical dx sheet I've ever seen, but it is a very common indication of various altered states of mental processing including paranoid schizophrenia.

I never said it was magic, I said the combinations of these pulses and wave forms are being perceived as reboot signals by neurons, this idea is just now coming to light and was unheard of before this recent breakthrough.

 

[R. David Case]

Personality disorders exist on a spectrum. They are distinct from proper mental illness in the sense that the brain is functioning properly but the programing is faulty. That's why it's worth making the distinction. Genuine Mental Illness is a physical condition that in many cases can corrected with the proper medical treatment. Individuals with Personality disorders are basically just shitty human beings that can't be fixed. Although in some instances if they are intelligent enough they can still be highly productive and make a significant contribution to society. I completely agree that the internet (in particular Social media) has brought out the worst in a lot of people.

Well I have come to conclusion that something else is going on in the brain / environment that is discounted as mental illness, just because it is easier than finding a cause. I have cured many, many people that all of you would call mental. After a few weeks of using Tinnitus Mix they no longer have any problems!

 

[R. David Case]

Not when they are clinging to paranoid ideas that have come to define their sense of self, and so it functions like a religion. I think that is true of Mr. Case and I think my own sister is in that bucket, unfortunately.

There's a fine line between having a bad personality and a clinical mental illness. Few of us are so self-actualized that we're ready to ascend in the lotus position to nirvana. Obviously when it comes to tinnitus most of us are in some shape or form depressed, for instance.

I think the most important quality anyone can have is humility. Only when you have humility can you learn and self-improve. Most of the arguments I get into are with people who are so stubborn in their positions that they won't even entertain the notion they could be wrong about something.

That makes discourse on the internet very difficult because on the internet everyone always believes they are right and nobody ever changes their mind. I mean, I've been on the internet since 1993 so I have a very broad perspective on this phenomenon. It's really changed how we think and interact as a society--and not in a good way.

I get your point but it is all about perspective, if you had talked to all of these hundreds of users of Tinnitus Mix, read all the emails and letters from people that don't know each other saying the same thing, that Tinnitus Mix has changed their lives for the better you would have a different perspective. It is easy to sit back in your arm chair and just spew one liners like "I call bullshit" and "placebo effect". It's harder for the brain to ponder and work to figure something out.

 

[R. David Case]

The most important facet of mental illness is that those who are mentally ill are rarely capable of acknowledging such. It's sort of like dunning-kruger where incompetents never realize they are incompetent. The reason I'm pointing this out is that calling someone out for being mentally ill is pissing in the wind. They are incapable of self reflecting enough to accept it.

For instance, L Ron Hubbard made it a key facet of Dianetics to declare war against the psychiatric profession. And it makes sense because the ego feels assaulted if someone came up to you and said you were a damaged person. Someone who is genuinely healthy doesn't spend a lot of time attacking the psychiatry. It's an obvious defense-mechanism.

What I find fascinating is how Tinnitus Mix has uncovered a connection between tinnitus and hearing voices, there is some common denominator that is unknown.

 

[R. David Case]

So you admit this is magic, and could never be demonstrated to be effective in a double blind RCT?

Cool, nothing more to discuss then.

People recover from hyperacusis and tinnitus spontaneously all the time, and if you think some audio mix is effective for people "hearing voices", uhm, well. I'm not even touching that one. Hearing voices is not a manifestation of tinnitus in any clinical dx sheet I've ever seen, but it is a very common indication of various altered states of mental processing including paranoid schizophrenia.

I never said it was magic, something that was not known is mysterious until its workings are discovered.

 

[GlennS]

Well I have come to conclusion that something else is going on in the brain / environment that is discounted as mental illness

 

[R. David Case]

Personality disorders exist on a spectrum. They are distinct from proper mental illness in the sense that the brain is functioning properly but the programing is faulty. That's why it's worth making the distinction. Genuine Mental Illness is a physical condition that in many cases can corrected with the proper medical treatment. Individuals with Personality disorders are basically just shitty human beings that can't be fixed. Although in some instances if they are intelligent enough they can still be highly productive and make a significant contribution to society. I completely agree that the internet (in particular Social media) has brought out the worst in a lot of people.

Just got this email, another person that has stopped their tinnitus of 40 years with Tinnitus Mix!!