I Just Feel So Robbed

bill 112

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Feb 21, 2014
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Republic Of Ireland
Tinnitus Since
02/2012
Cause of Tinnitus
Noise exposure
I'm just really struggling mentally these last few months,I just feel my chances of recovery were robbed from me and it makes me sick to my stomach thinking back on it which I do every second of every single day now.

I just can't accept it,it kills me knowing I was robbed of my life in a split second,that fate had other plans for me.

What I'm talking about is my worsening last year,January 2016 my H had just gotten too much and I quickly realised I was doing something wrong and needed to readjust,that I was overdoing things,things that my ears obviously found stressful and that I needed to rethink this,that I was being somewhat careless.

I sat in my room for a good month letting them recover,in this time I worked out what I needed to do to move forward and keep my ears happy.I made out a two year plan or an ear bible as I called it to prevent this from happening again and to give my ears the best chance at recovery.

I purchased a new pair of Peltor Earmuffs alongside high quality earplugs,I began sound enrichment usually consisting of classical music at lower volumes,I took long walks in the countryside to take in all the natural sounds,I basically set myself a treatment plan that I would stick to every single day and any loud noises or places were now completely unacceptable or off limits.

A month or so later and I was 10 times better,I was feeling great again and my tolerances were improving fast,I felt unbelieveabley happy and knew that this was the way forward,that I would get better and that life wasn't over.

At my lowest point in January I couldn't tolerate the tv,by March I was able to sit up all night watching movies with my girlfriend.I couldn't drive in January and I was back driving my car in March and back working again with the aid of earplugs that I planned on weaning off of very slowly over the course of two years to a certain degree.

I was steadily improving and knew this wasn't going to happen overnight,that this was going to be a long road with ups and downs but I was prepared to do it.
I knew I would improve as in two months I had already seen big improvement.

I then scheduled an appointment with my audiologist thinking this would be a smart decision,to see how my hearing is and to make sure there were no surprises,this is when the dreaded loud hearing test occurred and made me a million times worse!
It wasn't even that loud but obviously it was enough to turn everything around for me.

Things have just been an unimaginable nightmare ever since,two mental breakdowns later and I still live in that day,my mind is forever stuck in that evening,it's the first thing that appears in my mind in the morning and it's the last thing I think about before bed.

That I had got myself together,from a place of severe darkness in January I managed to get my head together and work out the best course of action for myself,what I needed to do to get better and God did it feel good when I began to rapidly improve there after,it gave me hope and relief that things would get better and to keep doing what I'm doing as it obviously working.I hadn't got it all worked out yet,but I know I was getting there.

That all changed that day,from that day on I just got worse and I can't help but feel overwhelmed by it all,that my chance at a happy life was robbed from me all in the blink of an eye,that this decision would destroy any recovery and chance of it happening thereafter.

I vomit when I think about it,I just can't accept it,I just feel so robbed of everything,just as I had realised my mistakes,adjusted and gotten it back again it was ripped from my hands and I was thrown into hell.
I haven't smiled since March,I haven't really laughed or felt happy since that day,it's just a never ending pit of fear and depression now.

My H is horrible and my T isn't much better,after the noise I slowly improved somewhat that I did begin to feel relaxed again,that I could still do things but then just before Christmas my hearing changed again and in came all these new tones and my H just became unbearable ever since,it's taken all hope of this getting better out of me.

I just,I just feel so sick about what happened in March.I can't let it go or forget it,it's part of me now as I'm currently a result of what happened that day,how can I move on when my condition reminds me of it every single second of every single day?

Thanks for reading,I just needed to get this out of my mind,I just feel so hopeless.
 
Letting go...forgiveness of self, forgiveness of circumstance, forgiveness of fate...recognition that life is fleeting and we are only here a short time and wasting it on the negative energy of not letting go and not seeing the bigger picture that you could be ravaged by disease or neurological disease that robs any one of us of even being able to move or think properly, this is almost more of an injustice than tinnitus with the right perspective.

Now, I am not in your shoes. But two things. I believe you will get better and it will start with a change in your mental health that maybe facilitated with medication. This btw has nothing to do with how smart or willful you are. Nobody can will good mental health. Not one with schizophrenia, not one with anxiety disorder or depression. You are plenty smart. Brain chemistry can rob you of objectivity and acceptance.
We all feel for you bill reading your posts.
 
I thought hearing test aren't supposed to blast your ears with loud sounds. Did she administer it wrong?
No,it was a speech recognition test.
They increase white noise while saying words to you and you have to be able to understand what they're saying.

At first it was ok,then the white noise just increased really loudly,too loud for me.

I went home and rested,the following evening it all hit.
 
I know what you mean about being stuck in the past. I'm still stuck on 29th May 2016. Going over and over the details all the little instances and events during 2016 leading up too the 29th May are just so unbelievably linked together. Blows my
mind thinking about how that can all happen just by chance. I actually believe I have been cursed by something now as it's just too unbelievable.
Amazing how your whole life can be destroyed just like that. :(
 
Bill, I felt exactly the same bud. The only difference is that I went to a loud gig in a bar and was sat at the front. I had a feeling at the time that I should leave, but I didn't. I sat there and watched the whole thing. I remember having thoughts along the lines of 'this can't be good for my ears', but looking around the room I thought 'oh well, everyone else seems to be fine'. That is literally how I felt at the time.

Fast forward 3 days and I woke up with a piercing dentist drill sound in my head, electrical zaps and my usual hissing behind it all. I had had T for well over 10 years at this point but only mild, the hissing and the high pitch screeching was now off the charts. I massively freaked out and starting searching for ENTs and audiologists. I paid out to see people right away (6 months on NHS - I knew this because 2 weeks prior I'd just seen an ENT for my allergies and that's how long it took). However, I received no real help, so I struggled on with my life in tatters. I had to quit my band (my life is music) and I stopped going out. My anxiety became out of control along with my mental health; I really didn't see anyway back either.

I beat myself up everyday asking myself: why didn't I just leave? I couldn't shake the feeling and it was eating me up inside. It was hideous guilt.

My hallelujah moment came when I accepted my situation. It's a hard word 'acceptance'; it's even harder to apply. You have to let go of your guilt in order to move on. The tinnitus doesn't change but your underlying emotions do, and this is not something that should be overlooked. Our emotions make us who we are. They control the state of our mental health and wellbeing.

Have you tried counselling? CBT or any other therapy to help you move on?

I think if you find a way to fully embrace and accept what's happened to you, then you will feel all the better for it.
 
No,it was a speech recognition test.
They increase white noise while saying words to you and you have to be able to understand what they're saying.

At first it was ok,then the white noise just increased really loudly,too loud for me.

I went home and rested,the following evening it all hit.

I don't know too much about hyperacusis but the link below is for a forum that might be able to help you out more. It is specifically for hyperacusis and ear pain. Others on here on this forum here might be able to help though. I hope you get better asap.

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/forums/support.55/
 
@bill 112 mate, everyone makes mistakes, any human does. If lets say you would be an ENT doc and knowing all that noise/otoxic drugs can do to your nerveous system/hearing would still go to loud places without hearing protection and jack tylenol/advil/whatever otoxic drug in to your system any time you had a little headache - then i would say that you are damn mupped. However i see things quite different with you.

In a way i got my T without knowing that prolong use of earbuds/heafphones on high volume + taking off earmuffs for a second at gun range may result in getting Noise induced hidden hearing loss and permanent moderate hiss (Tinnitus).

If i would know that abusing ears with noises results this damn condition - i would absolutely take care of that and would not be here right now, trying to find a way to solve this problem of mine.(it resulted me heavy depression/anxiety which affected my vision (got visual snow and some times objects shake from left-to-right when i look at them) as well as few other things.

I still function thougb, trying to deal with it.

Now, have you lost hope in LLLT ?
 
Yeah, I feel robbed too. All it took was me turning my back on a co-worker for a moment. Then everyone treats it as if I'm making a big deal over nothing because it's subjective. And I protected my hearing more than anyone else I know at work! Before my hearing injury I would wear earplugs in places most people wouldn't.

I found those speech recognition tests uncomfortable too. Some audiologists play the white noise way too loud while others are more considerate. I even told one audiologist that the masking noise was too loud and they didn't listen. I don't think my hyperacusis is as bad as yours, though.
 
Bill, I felt exactly the same bud. The only difference is that I went to a loud gig in a bar and was sat at the front. I had a feeling at the time that I should leave, but I didn't. I sat there and watched the whole thing. I remember having thoughts along the lines of 'this can't be good for my ears', but looking around the room I thought 'oh well, everyone else seems to be fine'. That is literally how I felt at the time.

Fast forward 3 days and I woke up with a piercing dentist drill sound in my head, electrical zaps and my usual hissing behind it all. I had had T for well over 10 years at this point but only mild, the hissing and the high pitch screeching was now off the charts. I massively freaked out and starting searching for ENTs and audiologists. I paid out to see people right away (6 months on NHS - I knew this because 2 weeks prior I'd just seen an ENT for my allergies and that's how long it took). However, I received no real help, so I struggled on with my life in tatters. I had to quit my band (my life is music) and I stopped going out. My anxiety became out of control along with my mental health; I really didn't see anyway back either.

I beat myself up everyday asking myself: why didn't I just leave? I couldn't shake the feeling and it was eating me up inside. It was hideous guilt.

My hallelujah moment came when I accepted my situation. It's a hard word 'acceptance'; it's even harder to apply. You have to let go of your guilt in order to move on. The tinnitus doesn't change but your underlying emotions do, and this is not something that should be overlooked. Our emotions make us who we are. They control the state of our mental health and wellbeing.

Have you tried counselling? CBT or any other therapy to help you move on?

I think if you find a way to fully embrace and accept what's happened to you, then you will feel all the better for it.
Just want to say a brilliant post Ed.
Ed has been there Bill and I hope you get to his place of acceptance.
 
Bill, I felt exactly the same bud. The only difference is that I went to a loud gig in a bar and was sat at the front. I had a feeling at the time that I should leave, but I didn't. I sat there and watched the whole thing. I remember having thoughts along the lines of 'this can't be good for my ears', but looking around the room I thought 'oh well, everyone else seems to be fine'. That is literally how I felt at the time.

Fast forward 3 days and I woke up with a piercing dentist drill sound in my head, electrical zaps and my usual hissing behind it all. I had had T for well over 10 years at this point but only mild, the hissing and the high pitch screeching was now off the charts. I massively freaked out and starting searching for ENTs and audiologists. I paid out to see people right away (6 months on NHS - I knew this because 2 weeks prior I'd just seen an ENT for my allergies and that's how long it took). However, I received no real help, so I struggled on with my life in tatters. I had to quit my band (my life is music) and I stopped going out. My anxiety became out of control along with my mental health; I really didn't see anyway back either.

I beat myself up everyday asking myself: why didn't I just leave? I couldn't shake the feeling and it was eating me up inside. It was hideous guilt.

My hallelujah moment came when I accepted my situation. It's a hard word 'acceptance'; it's even harder to apply. You have to let go of your guilt in order to move on. The tinnitus doesn't change but your underlying emotions do, and this is not something that should be overlooked. Our emotions make us who we are. They control the state of our mental health and wellbeing.

Have you tried counselling? CBT or any other therapy to help you move on?

I think if you find a way to fully embrace and accept what's happened to you, then you will feel all the better for it.
Thanks for your words Ed,they mirror my thoughts and feelings exactly so it's good to know I'm not the only one who thinks like this when things happen.

But,it's just a little more difficult for me this time,I have accepted things no matter how hard it was over the years but this is just a whole new ball game,life forever over kind of thing.

When I developed T in January 2011 it took me months to come to terms with it,I had no idea how or why it happened but it just did and there was nothing I could do about it.I remember making a promise to myself that day that I would never make things worse,my goal in life was to protect my hearing,habituate and get my life back again.

And that's what I did,my T had settled to barely audible and I adjusted my life to accomodate it,I adapted as I had no other choice.I began seeing friends again and socialising which really helped with the sadness and I can safely say I was a happy born again man by October of that year,my life was back and it felt amazing.T no longer had a grip on me but I always respected it,never wanting to provoke it.Anytime I had a spike I noted what caused it and knew to avoid it from there on out,the only thing that caused it to spike was beer and I'm not much of a drinker so this wasn't a problem for me.

Then in March 2012 I made a fatal error,a few friends were going to this venue and I decided to join them albeit reluctantly.I knew this place was going to be loud and I didn't do loud places,but I know why I agreed to go,I wanted to prove to myself that once I'm cautious I can live a somewhat normal life with T,that I can go and live my life fully like my uncle does and not have this over hanging element of fear in me.
I was never one for loud places anyway but I had avoided them for over 14 months at this point and I was tired of having to ditch my friends and go home the second somewhere loud was mentioned.

So I went home,grabbed my earplugs and went to the venue with my friends.
I remember sitting in the queue outside and began weighing the decision,I began thinking of"but if it gets worse there's no going back"and"but you have good earplugs,be careful and you will be ok"It was like having an angel whisper in one ear and a demon in the other as I waited outside,I was scared but simultaneously happy to be out with my friends again.

We entered the venue and it was loud,I popped in my earplugs and walked to the bar with a friend and got a drink.We sat there for awhile and I then decided to give myself regular breaks by going outside to the smoking area,when I got there I realised it was even more fun out here than inside so this is where I decided to spend the majority of my night.Anytime I walked back inside I would pop the earplugs in and stay away from the speakers.

Needless to say towards the end of the night I was pretty drunk and I got dragged onto the dance floor by some drunken girl as I was walking past.I danced for a few minutes to avoid it being awkward and that's when I realised,my ear plugs had been knocked out!She must have snagged the string and pulled them out and here I was dancing beside the music.

I remember in my drunken state saying"it'll be ok,don't worry"but then an alarm went off inside my head saying"don't be stupid,get out!"and that's what I did,I grabbed my jacket,got a taxi and went home.

I woke up the following morning greeted by a LOUD reactive tone,like a BOOOOOOOOOOP noise going through my head.I jumped up and knew I had made a huge mistake,a massive mistake and in came all the grief,regret and self hate along with it.
I had been so smart so why did I go there?To prove that I could do it,that with earplugs I could still go where I liked?I should have never gone is all that ran through my head,I had come from a dark place to light and now here I was straight back into it again.

I prayed that it would settle and vowed never to make that mistake again,I sat there and worked out what needed to be done to prevent this from happening again,I wasn't going to just ignore the T but work to prevent it getting worse and that's exactly what I did.

I adjusted,yet again and noise levels were always monitored and avoided if necessary.I sold my car and bought a quite BMW,I exchanged my power washers for quieter electrical ones,I used full hearing protection when using any tools or louder equipment,when it came to socialising I didn't go anywhere loud,if it did get loud I simply left no exceptions.An example would be when I went to my friends birthday,I walked inside with a mate of mine,heard the loud music,tapped him on the shoulder and said I'm out of here.This happened a lot including weddings and such when the band would start playing,I would say my goodbyes and leave.I even turned down two great jobs in those years because they involved loud environments!

All in all I adjusted my life for the better but always respecting T and I'm glad to say that it dropped off hugely within 3 months,all I had was a barely audible hiss in both ears and that was it and I was keeping it that way.I didn't let T rule my life but I respected it as much I could.

I was back to my old happy self within 5 months,I was completely habituated to my T and life was great once again,I felt completely normal and life simply couldn't have been better.
In those two years I only suffered a 20 minute spike once so that tells you how careful I was,but maybe I could have done,more I don't know.

So two years had passed and things were great,life was great and T was never on my mind,I thought about it for maybe 10 seconds in an entire month that's how habituated and well I was at the time.I had just finished a car that I was restoring and had actually just ordered sound deadening for it as I thought,over the long run the noise of the car might not be good for my hearing as it was a tin can of a car and noisy when going at speed,it didn't bother me but I just wanted to be cautious(Starlet GT turbo)

Then the nightmare happened,in December 2013 I went to my friends birthday party,I was feeling the best I ever had at this point in time.I walked inside and the place was stupidly loud,I talked with a few friends and walked back outside to get away from the music.Eventually we were all ushered back inside as their was a surprise for my mate Barry,we walked inside and the doors locked behind us and in came this stripper for him.They began playing music really loud and I tried to relax a little and enjoy the laughter of what was happening.After awhile I decided it was time to get out of here,I didn't want to over do it and screw myself up but of course I didn't think that was actually going to happen.

I got outside and noticed a TTS and became concerned,I decided after a little while outside that it's probably best that I go home and that's what I did.Luckily the next day I was fine,no problems at all and I continued on with my life.We then had a Christmas party in a restaurant a week or so later,it was here that I began to notice something was wrong.We had just finished our meal and went to the back bar for a few drinks(soft for me as I didn't drink alcohol)and a band came into play some soft songs.The band wasn't even loud by no means were they loud,they were just singing some traditional soft Irish songs with light slow singing,I could easily have a conversation with everyone at the table without raising my voice.But,I noticed as time went by that I was getting another TTS from just sitting in the restaurant and things became slightly harder to make out.I asked everyone at the table if they thought this place was too loud and they all grinned and said it was peaceful with confused looks on their faces.I stayed a little longer and when I walked to my car I really noticed this slight TTS,getting a bit worried I went home and on my way home I noticed that my voice sounded like a robot to me?Like a Dalek or something?When I got in things were ok so I slept it off.A few days later I went to my ENT to have a check to see if something like wax was causing it and there was,my left ear was impacted with wax.He removed it with a tiny bit of suctioning(which I hate)and then gave me a hearing test that was normal and sent me on my way but as I got into my car I could hear my T blaring loudly in my right ear.
As I drove home along came the robotic voice again and my T grew louder,by the time I got home it was like a gas pipe leaking in both ears.

I sat there freaked out,not knowing what to do or what the hell was happening.I ran to my GP and tried to get steroids and of course I was declined.

I decided to take a few days off work and rest at home in the hopes that it would settle,the distortion backed off and the T slowly dropped a little but was still way louder than before.As I sat there in my room I decided to look up T research videos and things of that nature,it always helped me feel a little better when going through something like those.And then,that's when it all hit the fan.The video ended and loaded up another video with related content,a high frequency noise video.This high pitched noise just came out of nowhere lasting no more than two seconds.I sat there shocked at what had happened,I froze waiting for something to happen and that's when my left ear started zapping and beeping and my right started booping really loudly.With that the sound of everything in my room became amplified,my computer just grew louder and louder and in a panic I ran down to my parents.When I got into the kitchen the sound of the oven,the fridge everything just sounded ten times louder!I fainted,right there in front of my parents.

I came to in the back of my fathers jeep at my doctors office,we walked inside and told him what had happened.I was referred to an ENT but when I got there I realised the guy was an idiot,he actually cut my ear canal with his poker thingy and I just got up and left.

At home,I was a complete wreck,I sat in my room absolutely devestated that this had happened,I could not believe it,I had been so cautious and fate just screwed me over in an instant.

I began researching and found that I had H,I couldn't bare any noise,even tv was too loud for me.I digged and digged as to what causes this and just couldn't find anything conclusive,H was all a big mystery of the brain/CNS and I was more confused after than I was before reading it.During this search I found that people had great success using desensitisation therapy i.e TRT and the likes.I read all the success stories on Google and watched all the videos on YouTube and it gave me hope,hope that I could cure this unknown beast!It was at this time that I happened to come across this forum hence why I'm here now.I read all the success stories and basically did what everyone whose new here does,I decided I needed to find someone trained in TRT.

And that's what I did,I found an audiologist who specialises in T and H and booked an appointment with him.
Nearly a month had passed and I was still a completely miserable wreck,I was so close to ending it all back then but TRT gave me hope,hope that things would get better again,I just blamed myself for not being even more cautious.I spent a lot of time in my grandmothers and went for walks everyday,anything to help cheer me up as I waited for my appointment.

I went to see him and got a full hearing evaluation done,and he told me my hearing was absolutely perfect and that I hadn't damaged my hearing.This was a great relief to me and so we began my desensitisation therapy alongside CBT.

It was a long process but over the coming months I got better and better and my T had dropped back down to a stable hiss again,I adapted and sold my cars yet again and bought much quieter cars,I worked so god damn hard for that first year and I made at that point an 85% recovery.I felt great again,it honestly did feel like a miracle to get to where I was,from not being able to tolerate tv to being my old self again!I felt blessed,I felt reborn it really was an amazing feeling knowing that I had somehow managed to climb through hell,tooth and nail and come out the otherside.I did still have some sensitivity,really high pitched noises were uncomfortable something like a smoke alarm or really squeeky brakes but for the most part I was completely normal again.I did still avoided loud places and noise as I did before but I didn't care as I was happy again and back living a happy life.

So two years pass by and things are great,I go to a car show with a girl that I would later begin seeing.Whilst we were there she noticed that I was extremely reluctant to go look at the drifting that was happening there and that I simply wouldn't go near any sources of loud noise,that's when we sat down and I told her about my T and H that I was somewhat hiding from her at this point,I wasn't ready to tell her that I had been through hell just yet,not really something that you talk about with someone you barely know let alone someone your attracted to.

She was completely understanding and somewhat sympathetic towards me about it and it felt great that she understood that I had limitations in what I was willing to do i.e clubs things like that were never going to happen.

After the car show we began seeing eachother,and I was ecstatic!!I never thought anyone would be interested in me,I was a bore who led a quite life in the car scene but that wasn't the case,she liked me!

I even remember the night I got my first kiss from her,I pulled my car onto the side of the road on my way home and began jumping around like a lunatic with happiness,I was just overwhelmed with joy that I had finally met someone someone that I really liked.I can't honestly tell you how great I felt that day but it was to be met with tragedy only a few days later.

We went bowling a few nights after and we went to a family gathering a week after that and things were great,we spent a lot of time with eachother and I was careful about what I exposed my ears to,I always had earplugs in my pocket and earmuffs in the boot of my car.The bowling was ok,wasn't loud but the balls hitting the floor hard was uncomfortable so I limited myself to one game only but I began slightly going outside my comfort zone a little bit,nothing too drastic but just little pushes here and there and I quickly realised I could tolerate a hell of a lot more than I previously thought.But of course I never broke the golden rule of being idiotic,if things got loud I got out:D

Just as things were going well my dad suddenly falls ill out of nowhere in October 2015 and so began the long business of running to the hospital everyday to check on what the hell was going on with him,I loved my father beyond all words.And then I got the phone call,I remember sitting in KFC with my girlfriend and a few friends laughing and chatting away,I had just swallowed a painkiller as I had a slight headache from the busy days before.I answered the phone and that's when I heard it,"your father has cancer,it's in the brain and it's not good"

I sat there in a state of shock,I had been through this hell before as it took my brother from us years ago and here we were back in it again.
My father rapidly deteriorated thereafter,everyday I would see a once strong proud man turn slowly into a bed wetting child as the tumours took over.He lasted all but two weeks,before he went he last words to me were"look after your mother,get out there and live your life son,do me proud"and with that he was gone.

I was in a state of despair after his death but I knew I had to be strong,my mother and family needed me now more than ever.His words had landed with me though,and I was going to do him proud,that I was going to make a great life for myself in his honour.

A few weeks after the funeral things were ok again but my head was feeling a little tired after the whole ordeal and noise so I took it easy for a week and relaxed at home.

And then,just as my luck would have it something stupid would have to happen.I woke up and lay in bed beside my girlfriend half awake,she went to give me a kiss on the cheek but it was too close to my ear and the pitch stabbed it with pain.It wasn't on my ear just near it but I jumped up out of bed in a shock,she was always so careful with my ears and then this happens.
I tried not to panic,my ear was in pain and felt a little full but no increase in sensitivity or T.I decided to take it extremely easy for the coming weeks,I was still riddled with fear that this had made it worse.I went to see my GP and he removed some wax and sent me to my audiologist who performed all his tests and said no damage was done,it was most likely a muscle contraction which is common in H patients.

This reassured me a little bit and the pain did begin to back off again so I slowly returned to life,this is the first time I ever really experienced pain with H.

I got out everyday whether it be work or going shopping with my girlfriend etc,basically normal everyday living.I did protect my hearing when needs be but I never overprotected them either,just in obvious situations.

But this pain kept coming back and then going again in December 2015.I was around a lot more noise this month but nothing major,it started off in the early days of December at her uncles going away party,there was Irish music playing but I had my earplugs stuffed firmly in my ears and left after maybe half an hour or so.The next day my head and scalp were stinging along with my neck but then it would pass again.This would happen on and off a little over the coming weeks as we git all our Christmas shopping done etc.
I was getting more and more concerned about this pain,it was over my head and scalp and would burn at times but then it would go just as quick as it arrived.

On the 18th of December me and my GF went to England via ferry to visit relatives.We drove 6 hours across the U.K(something I've always wanted to do,don't know why)and when we arrived in her brothers house in St.Albhans here I was greeted by this stinging burning pain all over my head and neck,it felt like my head was being squashed.I rested in her brothers flat before going out for a meal in Japanese cuisine place.Not too noisy so had my plugs at the ready.We got back to our hotel room and here I was again greeted by this horrible pain and now I was becoming concerned.The following day we went for a tour around London and I wore earplugs the entire time,said our goodbyes and headed for the port.When we arrived there this pain came back really strongly and intense this time and I began to really panic now.We got back to Ireland and I slept for two days and the pain was gone.I went to my GP and then my neurologist who both diagnosed it as tension related,that I had been under a lot of stress lately and that I was to take things easy for awhile so that's what I did.I was given muscle relaxers along with creams to relieve tension and told to take a warm bath everynight to ease it,it seemed to work and I felt a bit better after awhile.

It still came and went a little throughout January and again I was becoming more and more concerned by it not leaving,it was still very much there on some days and gone the next.

On the 26th of January me and my GF went to a comedy show and as usual I had my earplugs in and ready.It wasn't too loud there and when we got home the pain hit me like a tonne of bricks,my head was stinging like I had just stuck it in a bucket of needles!It was then it dawned on me,was my ears causing this?Its not ear pain and my T is still at its same level and I don't feel any extra sensitivity to sound?So how could my ears be causing neck pain?I hit the web yet again and couldn't find anything apart from tension popping up when I typed in my symptoms.

Over the next few days which were quite it went away again and I just could not work out what the hell was causing this,I even had my GF massage my neck and shoulders everynight trying to relieve it.Then one day in work a colleague shut a door near me quite loudly and in came this pain yet again,but this time my ears went hot and burning with it and I finally realised what the hell was going on,it was my ears causing this pain!

I got home in horrible pain and went to see my doctor yet again,he said the same thing as last time and I told him that I think he's wrong and that I need further investigation so I was referred to another neurologist and audiologist.

When I got home my ears began ringing louder than before and my sensitivity increased along with it,I knew there and then that things had gotten worse,that my ears were causing all these symptoms.

I went to the neuro and he couldnt find anything wrong and said its either tension or your middle ear muscles are causing trigeminal neuralgia symptoms.

I returned home hopeless,I rested up for a month and began sound enrichment etc and basically my original post is what happened from there on,my audiologist screwed me a month later.

That's basically my entire story,not that anybody asked for it but it clears my mind getting it all down in writing.
I just have no luck with this thing,everything that could go wrong did for me.
 
Bill. Have a a word with your GP and see if you can be referred for some counselling, preferably with someone that knows something about tinnitus.
I'm going to see a counsellor on Saturday Michael,I had to switch counsellors as the first guy spent most of his time looking at the ceiling asking stupid questions and then chatting on his phone half way through as if he had nothing better to do.I could have died in front of him and he probably would have just rolled his eyes and left.

The new counsellor is much more professional.
 
@bill 112 mate, everyone makes mistakes, any human does. If lets say you would be an ENT doc and knowing all that noise/otoxic drugs can do to your nerveous system/hearing would still go to loud places without hearing protection and jack tylenol/advil/whatever otoxic drug in to your system any time you had a little headache - then i would say that you are damn mupped. However i see things quite different with you.

In a way i got my T without knowing that prolong use of earbuds/heafphones on high volume + taking off earmuffs for a second at gun range may result in getting Noise induced hidden hearing loss and permanent moderate hiss (Tinnitus).

If i would know that abusing ears with noises results this damn condition - i would absolutely take care of that and would not be here right now, trying to find a way to solve this problem of mine.(it resulted me heavy depression/anxiety which affected my vision (got visual snow and some times objects shake from left-to-right when i look at them) as well as few other things.

I still function thougb, trying to deal with it.

Now, have you lost hope in LLLT ?
I don't know what to think of LLLT anymore,I just keep telling myself that I'm too far gone to see any benefit from it,that it's not going to work for me at this point:(
 
I don't know what to think of LLLT anymore,I just keep telling myself that I'm too far gone to see any benefit from it,that it's not going to work for me at this point:(

Bro, i red that people benefit from LLLT even 5 years from trauma. Also, you gotta have "perfect" blood to get healing going. Look up Dr. John Bergman on youtube regards that.
 
I'm just really struggling mentally these last few months,I just feel my chances of recovery were robbed from me and it makes me sick to my stomach thinking back on it which I do every second of every single day now.

I just can't accept it,it kills me knowing I was robbed of my life in a split second,that fate had other plans for me.

What I'm talking about is my worsening last year,January 2016 my H had just gotten too much and I quickly realised I was doing something wrong and needed to readjust,that I was overdoing things,things that my ears obviously found stressful and that I needed to rethink this,that I was being somewhat careless.

I sat in my room for a good month letting them recover,in this time I worked out what I needed to do to move forward and keep my ears happy.I made out a two year plan or an ear bible as I called it to prevent this from happening again and to give my ears the best chance at recovery.

I purchased a new pair of Peltor Earmuffs alongside high quality earplugs,I began sound enrichment usually consisting of classical music at lower volumes,I took long walks in the countryside to take in all the natural sounds,I basically set myself a treatment plan that I would stick to every single day and any loud noises or places were now completely unacceptable or off limits.

A month or so later and I was 10 times better,I was feeling great again and my tolerances were improving fast,I felt unbelieveabley happy and knew that this was the way forward,that I would get better and that life wasn't over.

At my lowest point in January I couldn't tolerate the tv,by March I was able to sit up all night watching movies with my girlfriend.I couldn't drive in January and I was back driving my car in March and back working again with the aid of earplugs that I planned on weaning off of very slowly over the course of two years to a certain degree.

I was steadily improving and knew this wasn't going to happen overnight,that this was going to be a long road with ups and downs but I was prepared to do it.
I knew I would improve as in two months I had already seen big improvement.

I then scheduled an appointment with my audiologist thinking this would be a smart decision,to see how my hearing is and to make sure there were no surprises,this is when the dreaded loud hearing test occurred and made me a million times worse!
It wasn't even that loud but obviously it was enough to turn everything around for me.

Things have just been an unimaginable nightmare ever since,two mental breakdowns later and I still live in that day,my mind is forever stuck in that evening,it's the first thing that appears in my mind in the morning and it's the last thing I think about before bed.

That I had got myself together,from a place of severe darkness in January I managed to get my head together and work out the best course of action for myself,what I needed to do to get better and God did it feel good when I began to rapidly improve there after,it gave me hope and relief that things would get better and to keep doing what I'm doing as it obviously working.I hadn't got it all worked out yet,but I know I was getting there.

That all changed that day,from that day on I just got worse and I can't help but feel overwhelmed by it all,that my chance at a happy life was robbed from me all in the blink of an eye,that this decision would destroy any recovery and chance of it happening thereafter.

I vomit when I think about it,I just can't accept it,I just feel so robbed of everything,just as I had realised my mistakes,adjusted and gotten it back again it was ripped from my hands and I was thrown into hell.
I haven't smiled since March,I haven't really laughed or felt happy since that day,it's just a never ending pit of fear and depression now.

My H is horrible and my T isn't much better,after the noise I slowly improved somewhat that I did begin to feel relaxed again,that I could still do things but then just before Christmas my hearing changed again and in came all these new tones and my H just became unbearable ever since,it's taken all hope of this getting better out of me.

I just,I just feel so sick about what happened in March.I can't let it go or forget it,it's part of me now as I'm currently a result of what happened that day,how can I move on when my condition reminds me of it every single second of every single day?

Thanks for reading,I just needed to get this out of my mind,I just feel so hopeless.

Bill I found this link where someone was helped by a medicine. I don't know if it would help you or make it worse. Drugs can be bad news sometimes but I just wanted to share it with you because you are hurting so much. It may have some side effects.
http://www.chat-hyperacusis.net/post/neurontin-reduction-in-hyperacusis-4266574
 
Bill ,
It was torture last year for a few months and even went in hospital for tests and AnE .
My doctor made a decision to stop my sleeping tablets and put me on a low antidepresant for sleep long term and said it can help tinnitus if nerves backfiring and it's made a massive change in my tinnitus and carnt thank him enough....
Look in to it for you as might just help you..lots of love glynis
 
I'm just really struggling mentally these last few months,I just feel my chances of recovery were robbed from me and it makes me sick to my stomach thinking back on it which I do every second of every single day now.

I just can't accept it,it kills me knowing I was robbed of my life in a split second,that fate had other plans for me.

What I'm talking about is my worsening last year,January 2016 my H had just gotten too much and I quickly realised I was doing something wrong and needed to readjust,that I was overdoing things,things that my ears obviously found stressful and that I needed to rethink this,that I was being somewhat careless.

I sat in my room for a good month letting them recover,in this time I worked out what I needed to do to move forward and keep my ears happy.I made out a two year plan or an ear bible as I called it to prevent this from happening again and to give my ears the best chance at recovery.

I purchased a new pair of Peltor Earmuffs alongside high quality earplugs,I began sound enrichment usually consisting of classical music at lower volumes,I took long walks in the countryside to take in all the natural sounds,I basically set myself a treatment plan that I would stick to every single day and any loud noises or places were now completely unacceptable or off limits.

A month or so later and I was 10 times better,I was feeling great again and my tolerances were improving fast,I felt unbelieveabley happy and knew that this was the way forward,that I would get better and that life wasn't over.

At my lowest point in January I couldn't tolerate the tv,by March I was able to sit up all night watching movies with my girlfriend.I couldn't drive in January and I was back driving my car in March and back working again with the aid of earplugs that I planned on weaning off of very slowly over the course of two years to a certain degree.

I was steadily improving and knew this wasn't going to happen overnight,that this was going to be a long road with ups and downs but I was prepared to do it.
I knew I would improve as in two months I had already seen big improvement.

I then scheduled an appointment with my audiologist thinking this would be a smart decision,to see how my hearing is and to make sure there were no surprises,this is when the dreaded loud hearing test occurred and made me a million times worse!
It wasn't even that loud but obviously it was enough to turn everything around for me.

Things have just been an unimaginable nightmare ever since,two mental breakdowns later and I still live in that day,my mind is forever stuck in that evening,it's the first thing that appears in my mind in the morning and it's the last thing I think about before bed.

That I had got myself together,from a place of severe darkness in January I managed to get my head together and work out the best course of action for myself,what I needed to do to get better and God did it feel good when I began to rapidly improve there after,it gave me hope and relief that things would get better and to keep doing what I'm doing as it obviously working.I hadn't got it all worked out yet,but I know I was getting there.

That all changed that day,from that day on I just got worse and I can't help but feel overwhelmed by it all,that my chance at a happy life was robbed from me all in the blink of an eye,that this decision would destroy any recovery and chance of it happening thereafter.

I vomit when I think about it,I just can't accept it,I just feel so robbed of everything,just as I had realised my mistakes,adjusted and gotten it back again it was ripped from my hands and I was thrown into hell.
I haven't smiled since March,I haven't really laughed or felt happy since that day,it's just a never ending pit of fear and depression now.

My H is horrible and my T isn't much better,after the noise I slowly improved somewhat that I did begin to feel relaxed again,that I could still do things but then just before Christmas my hearing changed again and in came all these new tones and my H just became unbearable ever since,it's taken all hope of this getting better out of me.

I just,I just feel so sick about what happened in March.I can't let it go or forget it,it's part of me now as I'm currently a result of what happened that day,how can I move on when my condition reminds me of it every single second of every single day?

Thanks for reading,I just needed to get this out of my mind,I just feel so hopeless.

Hey Bill, I found another person who was helped out with hyperacusis by a supplement called NAC. I am sure you are familiar with it but I wanted to show you the webpage. Check out Soundmachine.

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/n-acetylcysteine-nac.395/page-10

Also, JohnG

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/n-acetylcysteine-nac.395/

As well as Bekker

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/n-acetylcysteine-nac.395/page-12

I believe it is supposed to be taken on an empty stomach with fruit juice. I don't think it works good if you take it with protein.
 
I'm just really struggling mentally these last few months,I just feel my chances of recovery were robbed from me and it makes me sick to my stomach thinking back on it which I do every second of every single day now.

I just can't accept it,it kills me knowing I was robbed of my life in a split second,that fate had other plans for me.

What I'm talking about is my worsening last year,January 2016 my H had just gotten too much and I quickly realised I was doing something wrong and needed to readjust,that I was overdoing things,things that my ears obviously found stressful and that I needed to rethink this,that I was being somewhat careless.

I sat in my room for a good month letting them recover,in this time I worked out what I needed to do to move forward and keep my ears happy.I made out a two year plan or an ear bible as I called it to prevent this from happening again and to give my ears the best chance at recovery.

I purchased a new pair of Peltor Earmuffs alongside high quality earplugs,I began sound enrichment usually consisting of classical music at lower volumes,I took long walks in the countryside to take in all the natural sounds,I basically set myself a treatment plan that I would stick to every single day and any loud noises or places were now completely unacceptable or off limits.

A month or so later and I was 10 times better,I was feeling great again and my tolerances were improving fast,I felt unbelieveabley happy and knew that this was the way forward,that I would get better and that life wasn't over.

At my lowest point in January I couldn't tolerate the tv,by March I was able to sit up all night watching movies with my girlfriend.I couldn't drive in January and I was back driving my car in March and back working again with the aid of earplugs that I planned on weaning off of very slowly over the course of two years to a certain degree.

I was steadily improving and knew this wasn't going to happen overnight,that this was going to be a long road with ups and downs but I was prepared to do it.
I knew I would improve as in two months I had already seen big improvement.

I then scheduled an appointment with my audiologist thinking this would be a smart decision,to see how my hearing is and to make sure there were no surprises,this is when the dreaded loud hearing test occurred and made me a million times worse!
It wasn't even that loud but obviously it was enough to turn everything around for me.

Things have just been an unimaginable nightmare ever since,two mental breakdowns later and I still live in that day,my mind is forever stuck in that evening,it's the first thing that appears in my mind in the morning and it's the last thing I think about before bed.

That I had got myself together,from a place of severe darkness in January I managed to get my head together and work out the best course of action for myself,what I needed to do to get better and God did it feel good when I began to rapidly improve there after,it gave me hope and relief that things would get better and to keep doing what I'm doing as it obviously working.I hadn't got it all worked out yet,but I know I was getting there.

That all changed that day,from that day on I just got worse and I can't help but feel overwhelmed by it all,that my chance at a happy life was robbed from me all in the blink of an eye,that this decision would destroy any recovery and chance of it happening thereafter.

I vomit when I think about it,I just can't accept it,I just feel so robbed of everything,just as I had realised my mistakes,adjusted and gotten it back again it was ripped from my hands and I was thrown into hell.
I haven't smiled since March,I haven't really laughed or felt happy since that day,it's just a never ending pit of fear and depression now.

My H is horrible and my T isn't much better,after the noise I slowly improved somewhat that I did begin to feel relaxed again,that I could still do things but then just before Christmas my hearing changed again and in came all these new tones and my H just became unbearable ever since,it's taken all hope of this getting better out of me.

I just,I just feel so sick about what happened in March.I can't let it go or forget it,it's part of me now as I'm currently a result of what happened that day,how can I move on when my condition reminds me of it every single second of every single day?

Thanks for reading,I just needed to get this out of my mind,I just feel so hopeless.
https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/back-to-silence.7172/
 
That's basically my entire story,not that anybody asked for it but it clears my mind getting it all down in writing.
I just have no luck with this thing,everything that could go wrong did for me.

I read the whole thing. I feel for you.


And that's probably the worst part.

Actually the worst part was having senior management threaten me telling me that I shouldn't be talking about the incident causing my injury or my symptoms to any of my coworkers. This was within weeks of having my ears blasted and having severe tinnitus and hyperacusis (I also work in an noisy environment). They didn't even bother reporting the incident to OSHA (I know this because I saw on the OSHA report for the previous year stating "Total number of hearing injuries: 0"). It's easier to sweep someone under the rug if you can keep them from talking.
 
What do these morons think hearing actually is?
I don't know,honestly I blame them for the situation I'm in now.

I trusted them,thought they knew it all just as they were happy to step back and let me get into this soul destroying mess.

When I went to see them in January last year my audiologist and neurologist all gave me the Jastrebroff model bull crap yet again,when I told them of the pain I was experiencing neither had an answer nor did they want to provide one apart from TTTS.I left even more confused and scared,I had no other choice it seemed as to start sound therapy all over again even though I knew it couldn't be right,but I wanted to get better and this was the only way according to everyone I went to see,that once I cured my H my muscles wouldn't contract and thus the pain would stop,that's how they explained it at least.

But,I didn't have TTTS or at least not that I was aware of so how could that be?Things went rapidly downhill from there and they just continue to shrug it off,I don't visit them anymore nor a doctor for that matter,they read off of a script and send you on your way without actually investigating things any further.
 
This thread is a life-saver, thank you for sharing your story with us @bill 112 - this should have not happened to you and no wonder you feel bitter about the whole thing. Of course you would trust a qualified audiologist - they are supposed to be experts on hearing and yet seem to be totally ignorant on conditions like T and H that many suffer from. I really hope you can overcome this and it is a good sign you already had some improvement - even if it feels even worse to then have a setback. I think it means there is a good chance it will get better again. Do you have good and bad phases - like one day better and then some week worse? Is your T a reactive kind, does it get triggered by certain noises?

I have a scheduled appointment for an audiologist with all sorts of hearing tests, including those that have gotten lots of warnings here. I feel so naive for not finding out about this myself - I really considered that hearings tests above everything would be conducted in the safest way possible. I will either skip the whole appointment or then refuse to have the dangerous ones.

This seems as absurd as getting your vision checked and the optician suddenly pointing your eyes with a laserpen! Makes me so angry people have to deal with dire consequences from procedures that should put the patient's health above everything.
 
This thread is a life-saver, thank you for sharing your story with us @bill 112 - this should have not happened to you and no wonder you feel bitter about the whole thing. Of course you would trust a qualified audiologist - they are supposed to be experts on hearing and yet seem to be totally ignorant on conditions like T and H that many suffer from. I really hope you can overcome this and it is a good sign you already had some improvement - even if it feels even worse to then have a setback. I think it means there is a good chance it will get better again. Do you have good and bad phases - like one day better and then some week worse? Is your T a reactive kind, does it get triggered by certain noises?

I have a scheduled appointment for an audiologist with all sorts of hearing tests, including those that have gotten lots of warnings here. I feel so naive for not finding out about this myself - I really considered that hearings tests above everything would be conducted in the safest way possible. I will either skip the whole appointment or then refuse to have the dangerous ones.

This seems as absurd as getting your vision checked and the optician suddenly pointing your eyes with a laserpen! Makes me so angry people have to deal with dire consequences from procedures that should put the patient's health above everything.
The thing that kills me is knowing that I was very precautious,I told him to be careful before hand and not to do anything too loud for me but I still got screwed anyway.

I know H patients who got worse from LDL tests,you just don't know what to expect with this thing from one minute to the next in my opinion.

Maybe it wasn't his fault,1000 H patients could have done the very same test without issue but for me it was too much,a split second and everything went to hell thereafter.T patients do a BAR test without issue and sometimes people develop T from a BAR test so it's all an uncertainty.

My T is reactive and changes throughout the day,my H is sometimes a tiny bit better but then one noise kills me and I have to sleep it off,I don't know if they're worsening me or not and that's the scary thing.After the audiologist I improved to a degree,I could tolerate tv and many other everyday noises but stupid noises worsened me further,a friend laughing loudly left me in bed for two weeks and a quite night away with my girlfriend resulted in me being bed bound for three weeks.We booked a hotel room,I wore earplugs and earmuffs for the drive over,we then went to a burger place and again I wore deep inserted foam plugs during our time there.
When I got back to the hotel room I felt fine,put on the tv and then became overwhelmed with pain that left me up all night in agony.My pain isn't instant,it comes on after whatever noise had passed so I NEVER know what's too much,I felt completely fine in the burger place and could barely hear a thing thanks to the plugs but obviously my ears didn't like it and made they're displeasure known soon after.

I got way worse suddenly in December just gone,I was watching a tv show with a few friends,went to bed and woke up with new level H,distorted hearing and crazy T.I honestly don't know how anyone can fight this,no matter what I do,no matter what quality of life I fight for my ears take it away from me soon after.Everyday noises worsened me again and now everything is intolerable,so it's only a matter of time before I get worse again and there's nothing I can do about it,it's that or sit in solitary confinement for the rest of my life away from the ones I love,in many ways that in itself is a death sentence so where do I stand?

I live in constant fear,fear of what I know is coming and there's nothing I can do about it.
 

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