I Want to Kill the Bully Who Assaulted Me by Cupping His Hands Around My Ear and Yelled in My Ear

[Luman]

Its crazy how the guy just continues to let him do that, and get in his face like that. It put me on edge just watching it. My ass would be going to jail for assault if anyone ever did that to me.

It appears to have been some kind of demonstration, and given the volatile state of affairs and opinions regarding presidential politics, on both sides, I'd stay away from such events entirely.

 

[Dana]

Also, this happened in Mexico, so I'm not sure how the US court system would help out.

Unfortunately you are right, a request for extradition is not possible because the crime was commited in Mexico, i just read that. I did not know, i appologise.

I would go to an international court of law then, even if it took years. I would collect all the evidence, police reports, evidence of the authorities' reaction, accuse the "friend" for taking him there, not trying to make him to testify for the victim, etc. The authorities were awful. That was not justice, but taking the side with the criminal. Just awful. Grounds for going to a superior court.

 

[Alue]

If that happened to me, I'd sue for millions, and hopefully get offered an out of court settlement.

I was not previously familiar with this person but his actions are completely, unequivocally, out of bounds for civilized behavior, and I see that he has quite a record of similar bad activities, including arrests for assault, a history of alcoholism, and yelling racist remarks at a Black police officer.

O' I would too, especially since he is worth millions, but like I said before it would be a difficult case. People seem to think that you can sue for anything and win, but that's far from the truth. You can sue for just about anything, but the cases where people win millions for personal injury are few and far between.

 

[Taylorslay]

In the U.S they don't care much either. It's not considered something horrendous. Even though it's a growing problem in the youth. (Hearing loss and T. Not assault.) People just ignore it. I would be angry out of my mind if someone did this to me. But everyone on this forum is here to help. It'll be alright in the end

Much love

Taylor

 

[John G]

O' I would too, especially since he is worth millions, but like I said before it would be a difficult case. People seem to think that you can sue for anything and win, but that's far from the truth. You can sue for just about anything, but the cases where people win millions for personal injury are few and far between.

That Lagoof guy sure was in that guys own space and screaming as loud as he possibly can in his ear. Some lawyers may see $$$ after watching that video. So many out of court settlements do happen that we never hear about.

 

[glynis]

@Dana,
My view was to ChristopherD,
and not for another poster to clearly attack it.
Everyone's view to the author is important so maybe reply to my posts a bit nicer.
Love glynis

 

[ChristopherD]

Sorry for the typos, it should have been more like:

The first ENT I went to, told me something wise, something along these lines, "One needs to know how to choose one's friends."

Touché. Not everybody who seems to be a friend is a friend, and to add to that, every human, is really a human.

Not everybody who seems to be a friend is a friend, and to add to that, not every human, is really a human.

 

[ChristopherD]

Who is in the picture? The bully? Other people understood that it's him, but i would like a confirmation. And the person who's pulled by the hair is you?

@Dana The bully and me are both in the picture. Yes, I'm the guy being bullied there. In México, they have this term named "Guagüis", and it's used to define oral sex performed by a female, but also as an insult when applied to another guy. So that's what he was doing there, like in other words saying that I'm his bitch and that he thinks he's superior to me. I kept telling him to please knock it off, because I wasn't comfortable with his disrespectful behavior. It seemed like he would get the point and thus, would quit momentarily, but then again he would start his bullying minutes afterwards.

He kept disrespecting me over and over, and I just didn't feel like fighting with him, not because I'm intimidated by him, on the contrary, it's just that I don't enjoy fighting and I chose to avoid violence. Plus, we were at his cousin's house, so I didn't want to escalate the situation in that particular context, where I wasn't particularly at the best of odds in terms of choosing to pick a fight, since I probably would be jumped by his cousin as well, and/or his cousin's friends. I only went there because the guy taking the pictures, who was supposedly a friend of mine, had invited me over to watch a local soccer final match game, so I didn't think of it as much, other than just a get together to have some beers and and watch a sports game, but little did I know.

The Francisco bully yelled into my ear with his hands cupped around it, when there a goal being scored, but he crept from behind me and and there was nothing I could do, since I was sitting down on a chair looking towards a flat screen. Immediately I felt stunned, out of balance. I had an aqueous ear secretion, I felt like I had been kicked in the balls, I felt so dizzy, that I couldn't get up or move. I was stunned there for around five minutes grabbing my head and ears while the people there were just laughing at me.

It was five people there, the bully, Oscar, the bully's cousin, the best friend of the bully's cousin and me.

The person that took this picture is named Oscar Suarez Bon, and he was inciting the bully. That same night when I drove him back to his house after we left the place of the incident, I asked him if he could provide his testimony at a local authority, as he was an eye witness to what occurred. But he told me that the noises that I hear are just the crazy thoughts, product of my whacked mind, and that he's a true friend of Francisco Toriz Flores, the assaulter, and that I deserve to listen to those sounds for trying to harm his friend through a legal court case.

Oscar Suarez Bon - The witness who was inciting the assaulter, however, they're are cronies, so he won't even tell me his address, and told me to fuck off, that he's Francisco's friend. But I do know where he lives and I feel he's guilty in terms of not allowing justice to occur, because he chooses to remain silent of his buddy's criminal act.
The following is his Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/OscarSuarezBon

Francisco Toriz Flores - The assaulter, and I don't know his real address, but I know where his cousin lives. The following is his Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/francisco.free

 

[ChristopherD]

@ChristopherD ,
Two wrongs don't make a right.
You would not like anyone go thorough the mental torture of tinnitus and if the person knows what your going through he or she have to live with that guilt and wished they could turn back the clock after their actions.
Love glynis

@glynis However, this person has been a bully all of his life. He even has his piece of shit nose broken due to his bullyish past behaviours. He bullied the wrong guy, Tadeo Luciel, a couple of years ago. He bullied this guy in a similar fashion, but the guy snapped his nose in two with a single a punch, a one hit wonder.

One would have thought that he would have learned his lesson after that, but with more of a reason he chooses to pick on people. Several people have already told me they can't stand him, because of his bullyish and disrespectful way of being.

Plus, the guy doesn't even care that he damaged my life. He doesn't give a shit.

 

[ChristopherD]

I may sound mean, but i do not care. I would like that all the people who contributed to my getting tinnitus to get tinnitus themselves, cause in this case they would mock me less now, so i wouldn't have to endure their mockery on top of my T. Their mockery and their discrediting of my suffering makes it sooooo much more difficult for me.

I totally agree. Besides obtaining "tinnitus" due to a bully and his lack of maturity and self control, to top it off, I'm still humiliated by him and his circle of friends discrediting my suffering. That's when I say, this world is fucked up, because this world and the people who permit bullies to exist are the same pieces of shit, just with different clothes. If people changed the law system and would not permit these people who harm others, to just walk away like nothing had happened, this would be a different world.
But to my dismay, this world is full of cowards who will try to water down the suffering of a person who was assaulted, and then make it sound like this is a perfect world, while criminals get away with their bullshit.
I told Oscar, and the best friend of the assaulter's cousin (who's a doctor himself), who were both witnesses, that I wasn't asking for anything other than the truth be told. Yet, they would just remain silent, but I did tell them the following:

"There will come the day, where both of you need someone to speak the truth of something that involves you directly, and you will remember me asking for the truth. That day I hope justice gets served. It might not be today, it might not be tomorrow, it might not be in a year, but that they will come."

 

[ChristopherD]

My ass would be going to jail for assault if anyone ever did that to me.

When the guy who gave me tinnitus by yelling that loud or more with with his hands cupped around my ear, "I couldn't even move, so don't count with always having an opportunity to react or respond. I couldn't, I wanted to vomit, stunned and dizzy." Another reason why I want justice so bad. Every day I shadowbox, I can't wait the day I see this person again, just like he crept from behind me, I'm not going to warn him. I will pay the due respect.

 

[Alue]

There are ways you could give him hearing loss / tinnitus. Not that I'm recommending it.

 

[ChristopherD]

That's when I say, this world is fucked up, because this world and the people who permit bullies to exist are the same pieces of shit, just with different clothes. "

Should have been:

"That's when I say, this world is fucked up, because it's full people who hurt others with or without a reason, and also people who permit these bullies to exist. To me they are the same pieces of shit, just with different clothes."

 

[ChristopherD]

Last night, after struggling two to three hours to fall asleep due to the eternal ringing in my head, when I finally fell asleep, I dreamt with this person being in a same sort of social gathering/party that I just happened to be in. But for some reason, I was never able to get a good moment to pay him back, there never was a chance. I hope this dream is just a dream. It sucks to not be able to obtain justice even in my own dreams.

 

[jimH]

@ChristopherD ...I feel for you, Chris. I fully understand your seething resentment and desire to pay him back. It's not like he just gave you a black eye, or something that would totally heal in a few weeks. You could be suffering the rest of your life from what he did to you.

Although, revenge can give us some degree of satisfaction it can have a heavy price. After a man sexually exposed himself to my daughter when she was six, I severely beat him. I was arrested for "assault" at the scene. He was arrested and then taken to the hospital while I was taken to jail. It cost me a couple of thousand dollars in lawyer fees and a lot of anxiety and worry that I might have to go to prison. Fortunately, I never did.

So, really think it over and consider the possible consequences and cost before you do anything to him.

 

[Zinnia]

Thanks brother/sister for opening up and sharing your feelings... how did this person hurt you?

@ChristopherD , someone was whistling with their pinky fingers so incredible loud and that's what did it to me. She was about about 10 feet away and the T started immediately in the ear facing her. She was excited about a musician that was playing. Fucking stupid.

Be careful with the crazy asshole that caused yours. From what you said, he sounds nuts and like he has a big network of people on his side.

 

[ChristopherD]

@Zinnia I can't believe how we as humans are so fragile. And yet some do MMA for a living day in, day out, and yet never have these kind of problems.

Sorry to hear how a pinky finger whistle devastated your life. I bet the person didn't even say sorry or even realize how she changed your life. It blows my mind.

 

[quietatnight]

This is the dumbest thread that I have ever seen on here. I can't believe how many people have responded. Including me.

Do you really think that harming this "bully" is going to help you with your tinnitus ?

NOPE


You should try and move on, and work on learning coping skills to control your perception of your tinnitus.


Good Luck


Louie

Quietatnight

 

[ChristopherD]

@jimH Thanks for sharing your story. I bet that guy will think twice about pulling out those kind of stunts with children. I'm glad you didn't go to jail. I think it's more than obvious you attacked him in order to repel any sort of sexual assault on your child. Funny how protecting your own kin can get you thrown in jail.

You mention:

You could be suffering the rest of your life from what he did to you.

Well you tell me about a 30+ year tinnitus progression, the suffering or changes in your life as a consequence of this condition. Talking about time, probably you would know better than me, what it is to live for so long with this "symptom". To me the word symptom, is a term that doesn't accurately describe the level of how one is affected, or how it directly and indirectly effects one's quality of life as a human.

Few people will understand the joy of the sound of silence as much as people with an incessant high pitched tinnitus ringing, or one of the many different variants of this debilitating consequence, "symptom", whatever.
There's all sorts of reasons why people could be in a happy state as a consequence of being in a serene and tranquil place, but when a sound never stops being triggered in your brain, that's when you know you've been robbed out of something precious.

 

[ChristopherD]

@quietatnight

This is the dumbest thread that I have ever seen on here. I can't believe how many people have responded. Including me.

Louie, I don't want to harm this "bully". I just want legal justice, if that even exists in a third world country.

By the way, you can call yourself dumb all you want, just don't spread your dumbness on others please.

 

[Onsdag]

Louie, I don't want to harm this "bully".

You wanted to kill the bully... isn't that harming him?

Justice you won't get because you can't prove he caused your tinnitus. Forgive and forget. Move on with your life...

 

[ChristopherD]

O' I would too, especially since he is worth millions, but like I said before it would be a difficult case. People seem to think that you can sue for anything and win, but that's far from the truth. You can sue for just about anything, but the cases where people win millions for personal injury are few and far between.

It's a difficult case only because of how corrupt the legal system and the authorities are here in México, period. It's not a difficult case, because I have all sorts of evidence to prove this happened.
I don't think that I can sue for anything and win. All I really want is him paying some time in jail for his assault on my ear. Even if it were just a couple of months, at the very least it probably would teach him the lesson that you can't go in this world assaulting people and expect there to be no repercussions for that type of behavior.

 

[ChristopherD]

Justice you won't get because you can't prove he caused your tinnitus.

I bet I could not only prove how this person caused my tinnitus, but also even go as far as being able to demonstrate how easy it is to cause tinnitus to somebody, without even this person having the slightest idea of the existence of this type of "symptom".

A big shout out to all you ignorants out there that claim that one can't prove what caused one's tinnitus as a direct consequence of a particular situation. Well sure, only because you can't figure out how you got your own tinnitus, doesn't mean that we are all blind to what caused our particular tinnitus. What a bunch of nonsense.

 

[ChristopherD]

You wanted to kill the bully... isn't that harming him?

Brilliant. I guess you don't understand when people use nonliteral language as means of expressing themselves and their frustrations.

 

[Flamingo1]

@ChristopherD Please just get away from those thugs. They are BAD NEWS and taking legal action will only make matters worse for you, not for them, I'm afraid. Spend YOUR time and energy figuring out how to get the hell away from that place and those people!!!!!!!!!! That way you and your ears can recover in PEACE.

 

[RB2014]

Can't you use that picture to convict him of assault? I don't think you'll get very far with a tinnitus case even though I feel for you and completely understand.

I hate to say it, but it sounds like from everything you said it just best to leave it alone. Doing something to him will only make it worst for you, even though strapping him to a chair and playing loud music for 3 hours into his ear sounds like a fitting punishment.

 

[Dana]

2017 is coming to an end. In this of time of year i try to draw a line, to think about the accomplishments and matters that i have not solved, about the positives and the negatives that happened.
I must say that learning about what happened to you upset me a great deal. Injustice upsets me in general, but horrendous cases of injustice make me furious.
You received all kinds of advices, many of them to just leave it and forget that your tinnitus was caused intentionally by a bully. At one point, even, the perpetrator was attributed with traits of character he simply does not have. Allegedly the bully, who assaults and mocks people as an entertainment for him and his admirers is a good guy, who would live with guilt for the rest of his life and trying to turn back the clock if he could, but he does not only because when after he intentionally injured your ears he does not know that the ears remained injured. I thought that you would get very upset when you will read this so i quickly said something to let you know that not all agree with this view, only to learn that i am not allowed to do that. That made me even more mad and when i replied even angrier, my post was deleted, so at a certain post the most insane situation was created:
Francisco Floriz Tores is actually a good guy, he did not really know what he was doing, the only and really bad person here was me!
Thank God you returned to the thread and repaired things, and replying gracefully, you reiterated that what the bully did is a habbit of his, so not really a person who knows the feeling of remorse. You inadvertently saved my face and i did not thank you for that. I do it now.
What i want to tell you is this: the fact that the injury was intentional makes things so much harder, no doubt about it. You must take a decision that you could be satisfied with for the rest of your life.
Ask yourself: if i forgive him, or not forgive him, but just let things like that, and i see that after years my T did not go away, nor lessen, or it even became even worse and had a terrible impact on my life, will i be able to live with myself thinking about the fact that i forgave him in 2017?
Do not get me wrong, i wish that God will have mercy with you and help you recover, but this possiblity (that in spoke about) does exist. What you would do then?
The worst is when we are angry or upset with ourselves, cause we cannot run from ourselves.
There were opinions that it sounds like it is better to just let it go, that going to court won't be successful. Possible. But if the injust system defeats you, it will be them who defeated you, not yourself.
What i am saying is to not defeat yourself. If defeating is what will happen, leave to them this job, do not do it for them.
What you owe to yourself and to your parents is to defend the value that you are, and you are a person of value (very nice guy, educated and all). And you are so young, at the beginning of your life.
If going to court is not physically dangerous and you can afford it (you could probably do it even without a lawyer), i would suggest to do it. You may regret later that you did not.
People who adviced you to let it go are not in your situation and i strongly doubt they would have talked the same way if it was them or someone close to them in the situation.
But if it is physically dangerous to go to court, in this case, then you can be satisfied with yourself thinking that "i have done everything that i could have done".
In short, take a decision, one way or the other, that you could be satisfied with for the rest of your life, cause you cannot postpone for a long time.
Time is to think things through and take a decision.
My opinion is that you have enough proofs to go court, a picture that is worth like million papers, as it proves that you were taken there to be bullied for entertainment (who is so sick to stay and take a picture while sombody is abused instead of helping the victim, but somebody who has pleasure in that?)
Take your "friend" to court and accuse him, do not beat yourself up because he is not on your side. He has the first fault, he knew the bully and he knew what he will do to you, he is just as bad as the bully, he supplied the bully with another person, because the bully likes abusing people but he needs people for this "hobby" of him, and your "friend" helped him in this respect.

Once again, if it is physically dangerous, you can be content with the decision to not go to court.
Or if at this level is dangerous, maybe you can go to a superior court, stating that is dangerous to go to the local court. Maybe, i am not sure. I am not a lawyer, but i am a tinnitus sufferer and i know that anger and unsolved issues do not mingle well with the tinnitus. They make it worse. You must have peace in your heart.

Do whatever stays in your power to receive justice. By channeling your anger, that is normal to have, into trying to obtain justice, you may heal your anger, and the remnant anger, do not forget, may prevent the physical healing to happen (i mean your tinnitus).

Make peace within yourself, cause this is very important re how T will behave in the future.
T coupled with stress is worse. To have a chance at healing one has to relax. Relaxed deep within, not apparently relaxed.

My heart goes out to you.
Be strong.

If in the meantime you found in yourself the power to forgive and forget, that is absolutely fine too, but must be sure you will not regret later.

All i am saying that is time to take a decision that you could be content with for the years to come, no matter what happens. Only you know what that decision will be.

God bless you!

 

[Dana]

Sorry i do not have a software to take snapshots of just a part of a screen, but the first half of the picture shows the most ridiculous post i have seen in 2017.

The poster names this thread "the dumbest thread" and he advices you to "work and move on, and work on learning coping skills to control your perception of tinnitus", while his mood is "frustrated". Frustrated about a tinnitus he has for a lifetime, since childhood!!!!
I think he should take his own advice, work on learing his coping skills to control his perception of tinnitus, maybe this way he will not be that frustrated anymore.
The dumbest and the nastiest post i have seen in 2017, definitely. Shameful!

 

[Dana]

I am sure some people may be angry re why i had to bring up such subjects when the new year is coming and we should all be in another mood.
Because reading this thread left me with a heavy heart in November and i do not want to enter in the New Year without saying what i wanted to say then. Better in the last minute than never.
Putting all aside, and leaving the original poster to find his needed peace of mind, i wish you all to have in 2018 a much better year than 2017 was.