"I Would Not Believe Anyone Who Says That a Cure Is Just Around the Corner"

One more thing, Heller didn't mention potassium channels, but he did tell us not to hold our breath about companys like GenVec who are using gene delivery technology .

I'm not holding my breath for GenVec either.
I think it would be a very good idea for you to discuss with him the potassium channel research that's being done, maybe they would consider starting their own little side program.
Tell him curing tinnitus would get him the Nobel Prize just as much as curing hearing loss.
Show him the rat study where every little rodent was cured even after 6 month tinnitus onset.
 
Otonomy's new product's page sound also interesting:
New Products
We have a broad portfolio of issued and pending patents covering our current product candidates as well as other potential applications of our technology in major markets around the world. We will continue to evaluate new product opportunities to address significant unmet medical needs in otology. For example, one such area of great interest is the treatment of chronic hearing loss where considerable research in the field is underway to identify drugs that will preserve or improve hearing function.
Sounds rather generic though.
 
I had a conversation with Dr. Stefan Heller from Stanford University's renowned Initiative on Hearing Loss and he told me that my previous estimates of clinical trials by the year 2020 (based off of lead Otolarengolist Dr. Jackler's own prediction) are not realistic. I won't go into our exact conversation but maybe I had my hopes up too high for seeing a cure in our lifetime (and I'm still in my 30s). His quote is below:
That's totally tosh...Trobalt proves that they can treat tinnitus. Some doctors can be really depressing but he's not developing these drugs.
 
Not being privy to the conversation, I can only speculate that Dr. Heller was speaking of a hearing loss cure. Substances already exist to cease T for a period of time...pop a Molly (ecstasy) and enjoy the silence. Hopefully the Australians figure out how to isolate the active ingredient, so one doesn't need to stoned to achieve the silence:)
 
My thoughts on the subject is that if Tinnitus is to be cured, the cause of it should be addressed. So, if that cause is hearing loss (acoustic trauma, old age etc) tinnitus will be cured along with hearing loss whenever and if that is possible. In my reasoning they are interchangeable, The more T you have, the more the hearing loss is and vise versa.

Other treatments than regenerating dead hair cells may exist and help (potassium channels) but they may not result in a cure, not a permanent one that is. They could be something like a temporary cover of T, even cause some increase in hearing capacity, but not permanently. After all, many have bad and good days, which means tinnitus can be quite unstable. These drugs may stabilize the tinnitus levels to a much better state, even almost get rid of it for a short period of time. But it will be strange if our organisms maintain such a state without keep taking those drugs. This may be why the total cure should be expected from treating hearing loss, this may also be the cause why most do not mention tinnitus in their search for a hearing loss cure, or mention them altogether: They consider it to be the very same problem. The notion that they are 2 separate issues is not really justified, since the onset of them both is always at the exact same time.

About not having a cure in our lifetime it is only 1 man's opinion. It is pointless to discuss on that since nobody really knows when something good will come out, if ever. So many companies putting out all those timetables of their trials is definitely a fact and a hopeful one. Guessing about it will make no difference. It can only discourage people that need hope.

This forum serves in another capacity than only providing information: It provides hope much needed to us who suffer. This is why most spent their time here. To get that preciously needed hope to carry on. I think it would be best to keep an optimistic look on this condition, we need that more than anything. Always based on facts that is...
 
Not being privy to the conversation, I can only speculate that Dr. Heller was speaking of a hearing loss cure. Substances already exist to cease T for a period of time...pop a Molly (ecstasy) and enjoy the silence. Hopefully the Australians figure out how to isolate the active ingredient, so one doesn't need to stoned to achieve the silence:)

Well, considering they can do it within 10 years I call bs lol
 
For those who live outside USA and do not understand how FDA functions - this URL may be informative.
http://www.anh-usa.org/big-pharma-and-fda-a-marriage-not-made-in-heaven/#more-12525

Some may find a remedy in the simplest things...
Hi, thanks for this information,

I don't know the mechanism behind pharma and FDA nor I can tell if this book tells us the truth...
But I see always the same pattern.
If there is i.e. something like a cow milk industry, you will find an opposite industry who is telling i.e. milk is 80% cause for cancer, so let's drink soya or rice milk.
So if there is something big, you will always find some opposites, conspiracy or whatever.
Concerning Pharma, yes it's big money and I'm sure there are many regulatory odds. But it is not possible,,that all runs the odd way.

Is otonomy the same? Is Genvec the same?
 
Several companies are now looking into a cure or treatment for ear diseases... this alone creates a snowball effect that draws others into funding research just so they can have a patent on potential new treatments. Remember that ear medicine are pretty much uncharted territory with MILLLIONS of future clients. There is big money to be made.

The race is on. ;- )
 
Several companies are now looking into a cure or treatment for ear diseases... this alone creates a snowball effect that draws others into funding research just so they can have a patent on potential new treatments. Remember that ear medicine are pretty much uncharted territory with MILLLIONS of future clients. There is big money to be made.

The race is on. ;- )

Haha...It's a billion dollar industry! Thank the lord there are more people getting tinnitus and hearing loss as it encourages companies to invest in that area...I know that sounds horrible, but this be the way of capitalism.
 
Haha...It's a billion dollar industry! Thank the lord there are more people getting tinnitus and hearing loss as it encourages companies to invest in that area...I know that sounds horrible, but this be the way of capitalism.

Yup. :- ) The internet and forums like this also helps in giving companies an idea on how much need there is for a treatment (market analysis). The more noise we make the better.

It might not lead to a cure tomorrow or in the next 5 years. But we can sure it's being looked in to.
We just need that one lucky "ah-ha" moment.
 
Yup. :- ) The internet and forums like this also helps in giving companies an idea on how much need there is for a treatment (market analysis). The more noise we make the better.

It might not lead to a cure tomorrow or in the next 5 years. But we can sure it's being looked in to.
We just need that one lucky "ah-ha" moment.

There should be treatments within 5 years...Technically trobalt is a treatment, but has horrid side-effect, so it's the waiting game now.
 
Since decades every two year the newspapers made us hoping by writing: "cure for tinnitus will there be soon".

But still there is nothing to stop T.

In the hospital my neurologic doctor and also my ENT said:
"Forget it, there will never ever be a cure for tinnitus. The brain are too complex to make a cure".

Ofcourse you might have hope, but I think it's false hope.
Better is learning to live with it.
I am trying. It's hard.
 
Since decades every two year the newspapers made us hoping by writing: "cure for tinnitus will there be soon".

But still there is nothing to stop T.

In the hospital my neurologic doctor and also my ENT said:
"Forget it, there will never ever be a cure for tinnitus. The brain are too complex to make a cure".

Ofcourse you might have hope, but I think it's false hope.
Better is learning to live with it.
I am trying. It's hard.

yes, now we have to live with it that's true. An ENT said the same to me.
But I believe, for some forms of T will be a cure, or almost a treatment to lower it. But to say there will never be a cure for this problen didn't got the latest advances in research.
 
I'm confident with all the projects going on that we will see some outcome within the next 5 years.
Eg. AM101 will be the first medcine that will treat acute T and who says that it will not help for chronic T? Probably only a question of dosage and how many injections you get.
 
Remember that ear medicine are pretty much uncharted territory with MILLLIONS of future clients. There is big money to be made.

But then you, as a company, wouldn't want a cure, would you?

Ofcourse you might have hope, but I think it's false hope.
Better is learning to live with it.
I am trying. It's hard.

It is false hope. Because T does not exist for most people. And too many people learn to live with it, which is another confirmation that there's really no need for a cure.
I cannot live with T.
And I have no intention to do!
 
why always this theory about companies which are developing daily pills and not cures? This is just speculation, nothing else. Are Auris Medical or Otonomy developing pills?
Are the trial aiming to get monthly injections? So you see, it's not the case.
There are standards in medicine.

By the way, homeophatic drugs is like taking everyday pills ;-)
 
This thread is painful. Is there a way I can hide it so I never see it?

Ignore most of what you read...Trobalt can lower tinnitus, so it's possible to treat it and lower it, maybe not cure it...But who needs a cure when we have low tinnitus?
 
I dont believe thats its not a problem for 60,000,000 an climbing. Its a problem for a large contingent of the armed forces to have such depression and anxiety. Suicide in the US involves a high incident of T/H.
The company that cracks the golden egg with a cure or relief will make billions! What I cant stand are articles that refer to T/H as bothersome a nuisance... That could be farther than the truth. It melts you away with, you cant play music, be in social places. Phobias and anxieties can demoralize people. I dont know how much the US gov is investing in this sickness. Yet I feel they are letting vets and their citizenship down. Ill bet they spend more money on commercials than research for T/H! If its 20-30 years off a huge number of Americans and civilians of the world will die waiting.
 

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