If Physical Diseases Were Treated Like Mental Illness

snow86

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Apr 30, 2015
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2006 - Extreme T since 12/2013
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see "information" on profile page. Crippled by extreme T
This reminds me of all the tinnitus advice from people who don't have T. :troll:


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So true. Although, I've had a number of people tell me that they couldn't imagine living with it and it sounds horrible. I think I get more sympathy than apathy. Oddly enough, my boss has tinnitus but it's low he has to plug his ears to hear it. He was the less sympathetic one. Maybe because his doesn't impede on his day to day living. I have a few co-workers who are terrified of getting T. I wish they had taught this in school. There may not be as many of us saying "if only I knew better"
 
We'd be closer to a cure if people did not view habituation as a badge of pride and valor

Researchers, scientist and investors and who ever the hell else helps bring us closer to treatment are going to assume tinnitus is not important not because the community is not vocal but because the community is extremely vocal praising a coping mechanism.
 
I think that with mental health in general and T in particular, the big problem is that we don't know how the brain operates and there is no real way to find out, because for that you'll need experimentation with humans and this is a big no-no. Nevertheless, there has been good medication invented for anxiety, depression, schizophrenia, epilepsy, etc, so there should be a room for improvement - maybe not for all forms of T, but for some. Unfortunately brain damage conditions however remain a mystery so even that is not a given. But it'd help if these people were trying...
 
I think that with mental health in general and T in particular, the big problem is that we don't know how the brain operates and there is no real way to find out, because for that you'll need experimentation with humans and this is a big no-no. Nevertheless, there has been good medication invented for anxiety, depression, schizophrenia, epilepsy, etc, so there should be a room for improvement - maybe not for all forms of T, but for some. Unfortunately brain damage conditions however remain a mystery so even that is not a given. But it'd help if these people were trying...

Anxiety, depression yes. There are good medicines for that.
However not schizoprehnia and a schizo friend of mine gladly explained.

Medicines for schizophrenia and pyschosis's work by depleting the brain of dopamine and seratonin. They do not target the exact regions of the brain that cause the problem they just destroy a person's enthusiasm and happiness. Anti psychotics are literally pro depressants.

Tinnitus is a brain condition caused by hearing loss and neck/jaw disorders, the brain rewires itself when the cochlea is damaged. Repair hearing and the brain might undo the damage (atleast in acute cases It will) Tinnitus is not a mysterious unknown condition like it was over a decade ago the mechanism are being identified.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4208401/
 
Anxiety, depression yes. There are good medicines for that.
However not schizoprehnia and a schizo friend of mine gladly explained.

Medicines for schizophrenia and pyschosis's work by depleting the brain of dopamine and seratonin. They do not target the exact regions of the brain that cause the problem they just destroy a person's enthusiasm and happiness. Anti psychotics are literally pro depressants.

Tinnitus is a brain condition caused by hearing loss and neck/jaw disorders, the brain rewires itself when the cochlea is damaged. Repair hearing and the brain might undo the damage (atleast in acute cases It will) Tinnitus is not a mysterious unknown condition like it was over a decade ago the mechanism are being identified.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4208401/
This is actually very good news and it might mean that solution is just around the corner. I think that it'd be helpful if people who are famous with T speak about it. Musicians, there has to be many of them. People from motorsports. Military. Policemen. If there is a way to make these people voice concern, it might raise awareness. But I am not sure how it can happen.
P.S. I have taken antipsychotic from insomnia. It is an awful thing. But these drugs helped a friend of mine to stop having visions. That was great IMO...
 
There isn't a medication for OCD, so they prescribe antidepressants. They even admit that they don't know how antidepressants help, but that some people with OCD respond to them. (Some people respond to placebos too, but they don't mention that.) If you ask me, it's baloney.

I had a friend who was clinically depressed who took ADs for years and years. He was still depressed on the ADs. The only difference they made was that he was like a zombie instead of being the interesting person he used to be.
 
There isn't a medication for OCD, so they prescribe antidepressants. They even admit that they don't know how antidepressants help, but that some people with OCD respond to them. (Some people respond to placebos too, but they don't mention that.) If you ask me, it's baloney.

I had a friend who was clinically depressed who took ADs for years and years. He was still depressed on the ADs. The only difference they made was that he was like a zombie instead of being the interesting person he used to be.

I am also depressed a lot of time (not always) even though I am on AD's, but not ANYTHING as depressive as I would be if I did not take them, without them I am so severely depressed that even getting out of bed is totally impossible, and where I am in very great danger of commiting suicide. So AD's DO help me, but they don't take the depression away completely.
 
I am also depressed a lot of time (not always) even though I am on AD's, but not ANYTHING as depressive as I would be if I did not take them, without them I am so severely depressed that even getting out of bed is totally impossible, and where I am in very great danger of commiting suicide. So AD's DO help me, but they don't take the depression away completely.

I'm glad your AD helps you some. I read up on serotonin when I was diagnosed and I'm extremely skeptical about using SSRI's for OCD. I know less about the serotonin - depression connection, but I can't help thinking there's more to depression than SSRI's alone can treat. Do you have any kind of therapy along with the ADs?

Are you familiar with Aaron Beck? He wrote a few books on depression, which I have not read, but what I did read was his book Cognitive Therapy and the Emotional Disorders. It's not about OCD, but it deals with anxiety and phobias. (I have anxiety and a phobia too. Wouldn't want the OCD to get lonely.) There's a chapter on depression and how CBT can help.

I'm often vocal about CBT not being a solution for T, but I do believe in it for mental disorders. It helped me a lot, got me functioning again. I was never free from OCD, but it was reducd to the point where I almost felt like a normal person.
 
I'm glad your AD helps you some. I read up on serotonin when I was diagnosed and I'm extremely skeptical about using SSRI's for OCD. I know less about the serotonin - depression connection, but I can't help thinking there's more to depression than SSRI's alone can treat. Do you have any kind of therapy along with the ADs?

Are you familiar with Aaron Beck? He wrote a few books on depression, which I have not read, but what I did read was his book Cognitive Therapy and the Emotional Disorders. It's not about OCD, but it deals with anxiety and phobias. (I have anxiety and a phobia too. Wouldn't want the OCD to get lonely.) There's a chapter on depression and how CBT can help.

I'm often vocal about CBT not being a solution for T, but I do believe in it for mental disorders. It helped me a lot, got me functioning again. I was never free from OCD, but it was reducd to the point where I almost felt like a normal person.

Of course their is: Tinnitus - and no, I don't have any other threatment then AD's
 

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