Is There Any Organisation That Provides Euthanasia for Tinnitus?

[JohnFox]

you shouldn't have to spend your last days, weeks, months, lying helpless in your own urine, with a tube down your throat, waiting for a stranger to spoon feed you and wipe your ass.

We don't treat our pets like this.

 

[JohnFox]

I highly suggest waiting for Neuromod to come out. It may be able to get you in a more comfortable place to wait it out for the next device that will follow from Susan Shore.

 

[coffee_girl]

I volunteer at the needle exchange here in SF and I can tell you the city is really really bad right now. There are literal BNB tours of "tent" cities where tourists pay 25 dollars to be given a guide of our downtown homeless population.
I flew over SF the other day and you can literally see swathes of blue tarp over parts of Oakland and SF... it is all over the freeways in the bay area and even along Highway 1. I never thought I would see SF become Seattle but it is so bad.

I've been working at the needle exchange since 2004 and we used to have 20 per day showing up, now we have easily hundreds every day. It is really bad, some young college kids who came to CA to be models/actors. It's so bad sometimes I can catch people in my back yard showering from my faucet (something that has never happened before)... it's crazy. I'm selling my house and moving to the country in Minnesota or something.

 

[Liam_Cairns]

The chart you showed is looking at the homeless situation which I think is pretty limited to SF and similar areas, that is, "places you can live outdoors year round which also occur in liberally-run states with lots of access to services for poor people". The unfortunate effect is that creates a magnet for people in bad situations.

I was, full stop, just talking about climate change and the effect it's likely to have here and abroad. In no way do I think that suicide is going to become an attractive option for the average American over that timeframe, but, large swaths of habitable land are going to become inhabitable. NYC will likely survive, at least for my lifetime, because it's the financial pulse of the country and therefore billions or trillions will be spent to keep it floating. But places like Phoenix, where car tires will start popping in the summer sun, and the simple cost of air conditioning will be unaffordable for a lot of people?

There are a lot of reasons I moved to the top of a mountain in a remote town that's practically in Canada, but I'd be lying if I said that thinking about all this stuff wasn't among them.

I disagree with your first comment entirely, and I think the harm done to random scared new sufferers seeing threads like that front and center outweighs any good that can come of them. If someone wants to kill themselves, whatever, not my problem or my concern, but I stand by my original comment.

Fuck I never meant to scare anyone, I'm just so low right now that it never even crossed my mind. It's just getting worse and worse and I'm becoming more and more of a drain on my loved ones. I once had stable tinnitus but not anymore. I have tried literally everything. My doctors seem to think I have a functional disorder but are unsure of how to treat it, leaving me stranded as the noise gets louder after every incident.

There is no such thing as dignified death. You die or you don't. The perception that death is somehow "dignified" is entirely made up. Before dying in combat was considered dignified and honorable. It was probably one of the worst ways to die (because you probably didn't die right away from your wounds).

Want to die? You will find a way. Don't want to? Then don't.

Sorry, I know that probably sounded confusing, what I mean by a dignified death is being able to die with my parents around me, in Australia that can't happen as they would be charged with assisting in suicide. Now you have to admit, that's pretty fucked up.

 

[CMIH]

Man why can't they just give people a dignified death? And nah my tinnitus from microsuction is from a year and a half ago and I have new even worse tone now so I think I'm just going to settle on buying a nitrogen tank and just filling a bag with air and holding it over my head.

I wouldn't be too quick about it. Tinnitus might be 1000 x louder wherever we go after this.

 

[Tanni]

I wouldn't be too quick about it. Tinnitus might be 1000 x louder wherever we go after this.

Sorry, you may have been trying to help, but this is not helpful.

I'm not here to encourage suicide in anyone, but sometimes people need to feel that they have that option in order to regain some control over the situation and to help them cope better. Threatening them with an afterlife of perpetual torturous Tinnitus in order to keep them alive is so counter-productive, because it places even more strain on vulnerable people and makes them panic even further.

Absolutely nobody knows what happens after we die - we are all just mortals.

 

[CMIH]

Sorry, you may have been trying to help, but this is not helpful.

Sorry about that. I just don't see suicide as reasonable option. As long as you're alive there's hope of treatment or habituation or.... something. Don't give up. I mean, if you had a "terminal illness" for which there is no good treatment or cure, that would be different IMHO. That's how I see it, but I'm not in your shoes.

 

[Tanni]

Sorry about that. I just don't see suicide as reasonable option. As long as you're alive there's hope of treatment or habituation or.... something. Don't give up. I mean, if you had a "terminal illness" for which there is no good treatment or cure, that would be different IMHO. That's how I see it, but I'm not in your shoes.

Thanks CMIH. To be clear, I wasn't referring to myself -- I was worried about the OP, or anyone else who may feel suicidal. My point was that talking about it doesn't mean someone is going to do it -- sometimes people just need to feel that they have the option.

I think suicide doesn't seem like a reasonable option if you're not suicidal. If you've never felt that way, it's hard to imagine how you could possibly want to do it. But when you're in so much emotional and physical pain, that's a different story.

Here's hoping for a treatment or cure for us asap!

 

[Bill Bauer]

climate change

ROFL

 

[Bill Bauer]

As long as you're alive there's hope of treatment or habituation or.... something.

To me, as long as one is alive one is in danger of getting louder tinnitus.

It is all about comparing costs and benefits. The utility of death is zero (when one is dead there is no pain and no pleasure). So it all boils down to whether the value one assigns to being alive is positive or negative. The answer will be different for different people (who have different preferences and circumstances).

 

[Bill Bauer]

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Where did you get that?!

 

[JohnFox]

I never thought I would see SF become Seattle but it is so bad.

Uh... actually, I think Seattle is becoming SF.

 

[coffee_girl]

Lol if there is tinnitus in the afterlife than why wouldn't there also be a cure? Also why would anyone want to have tinnitus for all of eternity? There are no crimes committed throughout history that are so heinous that such a punishment would exist.

 

[coffee_girl]

Uh... actually, I think Seattle is becoming SF.

=[

 

[Bill Bauer]

Uh... actually, I think Seattle is becoming SF.

Seattle and SF are becoming Vancouver!

 

[razo]

my tinnitus from microsuction is from a year and a half ago

Perhaps try to reverse the microsuction and see if it gets better?

 

[Bill Bauer]

Perhaps try to reverse the microsuction and see if it gets better?

Not funny.

 

[linearb]

ROFL

You can have your head in the sand all you want, in fact it doesn't surprise me to learn you are a bit of a flat earther, but the data is equivocal, we're already at the 1C which had been projected for, oh, 2050.

Learning that you're an unscientific bollard on this issue doesn't surprise me.

https://climate.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_page=40&order=publish_date+desc,+created_at+desc&search=&category=19,98&ss_id=NaN

 

[Hazel]

Fuck I never meant to scare anyone, I'm just so low right now that it never even crossed my mind. It's just getting worse and worse and I'm becoming more and more of a drain on my loved ones. I once had stable tinnitus but not anymore. I have tried literally everything. My doctors seem to think I have a functional disorder but are unsure of how to treat it, leaving me stranded as the noise gets louder after every incident.

Hi Liam,

I'm so sorry to hear about your situation. It's hard to advise in these situations, but I would strongly recommend you talk about it with someone in your life. On this forum you'll get all kinds of advice, some good some bad, but those people don't really know you. I hope there is someone in your life you trust enough to talk about it. They will be shocked probably, but it might be a relief for you to share.

And what about your doctors, are they aware of how dire your situation is? I would make that abundantly clear to them; be very specific about your mental suffering. They owe it to their profession to try and help. Of course, they can't offer a cure, but at least they should offer some counselling or something.

Finally, of course you weren't trying to scare anyone. You're desperate, we get it. But it is true that people new to tinnitus come to this forum looking for hope, and certain personality types might think - seeing this thread - that they will end up like you as well, and there is no hope for them. When in fact, after the first 6-9 months, the vast majority of people get better; that's usually when they disappear from this forum

Liam, you can also PM me and @Markku, or any other caring member you know, to discuss this further.

 

[linearb]

Uh... actually, I think Seattle is becoming SF.

Big cities with relatively mild weather and good services will all have these issues, and it will get worse as social and infrastructure support from the federal apparatus gets worse and worse. On the other hand, parts of Seattle are seeing massive (unsustainable) property value hikes. Expect more and more gated communities of McMansions surrounded by dystopian sprawl.

Living in areas where the population density is that high also contains risks in terms of diseases, and resource scarcity and violence in the event of any kind of breakdown (I've read that when a big NYC power outage happened in the 80s, looting started in seconds. I worked in energy for 7 years until recently; the grid is stressed and not really being invested into at a systemic level; it's also more and more vulnerable to being hacked from across the globe).

In between all these loud, congested, toxic cities... there is a lot of beautiful open space that's affordable and quiet.

When I lived in DC and worked in an office I'd get serious illnesses (which invariably made my tinnitus insanely loud) several times each winter. Now, living more remotely, even with a small child bringing germs home, my illness rate is maybe 10% what it was.

When I look out my window now, I open it, take a big inhalation, and sigh... it took me nearly a decade to line things up so I could live where I do now, and it was worth every minute.

 

[Allan1967]

I could easily step into a suicide booth today. My tinnitus is raging.

 

[Allan1967]

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How much longer for this fcuking thing!

 

[linearb]

I realize that's a ton of words from me, and none to @Liam_Cairns -- sorry, I'm an asshole!

All I can say is what you don't want to hear -- try to hang in there, I felt the same way you are expressing for years and had to claw through it day by day, and so far that was worth the effort and pain.

If you decide to make a different choice, well, I am enough of a libertarian to think it's your right, but also enough of a humanitarian to think it would be very sad to have someone make this choice, especially after "only" having severe tinnitus for 18 months. I've read claimed anecdotes of people actually habituating after as much as 4-6 years of torment.

That's clearly not my story, but, on the other hand, my bad trauma was in 2010 and I'm still here.

 

[JohnFox]

On the other hand, parts of Seattle are seeing massive (unsustainable) property value hikes.

No doubt about it, Seattle real estate has skyrocketed. However, that in itself is not why thousands are living in tents next to the freeway and elsewhere. When high rents force otherwise healthy people out of the community where they reside or work, most do not set up their tent next to the freeway and move in. They find cheaper rent somewhere. The homeless problem in Seattle and San Fran, for the most part is not a homeless problem, it is a drug addiction problem. Google the film documentary "Seattle is Dying".

 

[linearb]

The homeless problem in Seattle and San Fran, for the most part is not a homeless problem, it is a drug addiction problem. Google the film documentary "Seattle is Dying".

I'll check the movie out even though I bet it will be, at least partially, a depressing and fact-based affirmation of things I already believe.

Having spent some time in and working with recovery communities, I think most homelessness usually has some combination of mental illness and substance issues at its root... because, in general, there ARE resources available to not sleep outside, if you can obey their rules, fill out basic paperwork, etc.

IMO we need to completely stop treating drug use as a law enforcement problem, and treat it as a social problem. (I'd include the sort of addicts who sell small amounts to support their own habits in this, but obviously leave the real dealers and producers as a law enforcement issue). Being addicted to drugs isn't actually fun or glamorous, and I think very very few people would actually choose that if they were aware of better choices that they had. Sure, there might be some tiny percentage of the population who says "I don't care how good or comfortable my life is, I just want to take heroin all the time" but I think it would be such a small demographic that we could just treat it like any other mental illness.

 

[JohnFox]

IMO we need to completely stop treating drug use as a law enforcement problem, and treat it as a social problem.

Pretty much agree. Another piece of this ugly pie is I have no doubt you can connect the epidemic in "homelessness" to the epidemic of the abuse (by the providers and users) of prescription opiate pain pills. A large number of street heroin users began their addiction by being given a prescription to opiates. The opiate providers have flooded the country with these very addictive drugs. ($$$$)

 

[SugarMagnolia]

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For you guy's sake, I hope you get this. But I don't want any part of it. I'm not listening to headphones. And there's no way I'm putting that thing in my mouth and electric-shocking my tongue.

 

[just1morething]

I'm selling my house and moving to the country in Minnesota or something.

I think Minnesota might be too cold for you and you have the ocean and mountains. We had record snow this past February also. Warm today though 87 degrees.

 

[PeteJ]

I don't know how to live with this.

I had a normal life until mid February and then an acoustic trauma which....

I can't concentrate to explain. It got higher pitched and is loud. I can't live this. I asked about people who had high pitched and loud tinnitus who had theirs reduce. No one said anything.

 

[Fangen]

Fuck I never meant to scare anyone, I'm just so low right now that it never even crossed my mind. It's just getting worse and worse and I'm becoming more and more of a drain on my loved ones. I once had stable tinnitus but not anymore. I have tried literally everything. My doctors seem to think I have a functional disorder but are unsure of how to treat it, leaving me stranded as the noise gets louder after every incident.


Sorry, I know that probably sounded confusing, what I mean by a dignified death is being able to die with my parents around me, in Australia that can't happen as they would be charged with assisting in suicide. Now you have to admit, that's pretty fucked up.

You mean assistance to murder? Suicide is not illegal everywhere.