Is There Research Showing a Link Between Tinnitus and Pulsatile Tinnitus?

[GoatSheep]

Basically, once you acquire either form of tinnitus are you more susceptible to the other?

 

[ajc]

Basically, once you acquire either form of tinnitus are you more susceptible to the other?

That's kind of a stupid question.

Pulsatile tinnitus is a completely different condition from "normal" tinnitus. Pulsatile tinnitus is caused by problems in the veins and stuff.

One is not connected to the other, at all. One does not make you more susceptible to get the other.

 

[GoatSheep]

That's kind of a stupid question.

Pulsatile tinnitus is a completely different condition from "normal" tinnitus. Pulsatile tinnitus is caused by problems in the veins and stuff.

One is not connected to the other, at all. One does not make you more susceptible to get the other.

Well I've seen quite a few people on here who have developed one then end up with the other at a later point. So it makes me curious.

You always have something smart to say to someone. Be thankful for the internet it was made to protect smart mouths like you from repercussions.

 

[Ross McLauchlan]

I developed pulsatile tinnitus on the same day I developed my regular tinnitus. I've never had either of them before the 17th of April 2017, but I've had both of them since.

My tinnitus is noise induced, for the record. Any time I've been to loud events and worsened my tinnitus, my pulsatile tinnitus becomes unbearable for months.

I don't think it's a stupid question at all @GoatSheep. I'd be interested in any information on that, too.

 

[Kendra]

I think there may be people who start out with non-pulsatile at one tone and develop a pulsatile one later and vice versa possibly due to a vein being close to the auditory nerve or cochlea and irritating it/hitting up against it. And over time it worsens.

 

[Ian Mc]

I have had pulsatile tinnitus for around 16 months, about 2 months ago I developed regular tinnitus, so I now have both. Your question is in fact a good question.

 

[Steph1710]

You always have something smart to say to someone. Be thankful for the internet it was made to protect smart mouths like you from repercussions.

Yeah he tried to insult me once haha. My mates and I laughed so hard at his pathetic little response, because there is no way in hell he would have spoken to me like that in real life.
They said the same as you - that he's lucky he lives in his safe little internet world.

Anyway, it's not a stupid question to ask about a link between the two. In fact to be curious about things shows a level of intelligence. People who call other people stupid are usually thick as f*#k in my experience.

I actually have both normal tinnitus and pulsatile tinnitus - and although I have a diagnosis for my pulsatile tinnitus, which is thankfully being operated on very soon, I couldn't help think that maybe there was a link between the two because I've never had any problems with my ears/hearing but once I developed pulsatile tinnitus, I very soon developed normal tinnitus too.

Steph <3

 

[Greg Sacramento]

asically, once you acquire either form of tinnitus are you more susceptible to the other?

It can happen, if one develops hypertension. Having tinnitus and the realization can cause hypertension. Tinnitus = hypertension = pulsatile tinnitus in 3% of those with tinnitus, but most are 55, mostly 65 or older. Hypertension needs to cause a vein or artery problem by sending plaque to the carotid artery with having atherosclerosis or hypertension causes an abdominal aortic aneurysm, damaged aortic heart value or another part of the aortic vessel. From any of this, pulsatile tinnitus will be heard.

Another way, is that hypertension and it's physical relations such as improper blood flow can weaken the ears, so then something like noise exposure causes tinnitus easier. Then hypertension can cause pulsatile tinnitus as in ways mentioned in first paragraph.

Another way - whiplash or a head injury causing tinnitus as well as vein and artery problems of neck causing pulsatile tinnitus. Whiplash or a head injury can also cause problems within the head that can associate to either tinnitus, pulsatile tinnitus or both.

What Kendra said above can also be cause. Often doctors will say that this is the reason, because they don't want to explore. One needs to see an interventional radiologist and have neck and head studies, see an ENT, and for the older, also an electrocardiogram and radiological testing of the aortic and renal vessel.

 

[Steph1710]

I think there may be people who start out with non-pulsatile at one tone and develop a pulsatile one later and vice versa possibly due to a vein being close to the auditory nerve or cochlea and irritating it/hitting up against it. And over time it worsens.

Makes perfect sense. When looking at where I'm being operated on for my pulsatile tinnitus, one can see how close it is to the ear canal.

 

[GoatSheep]

Yeah he tried to insult me once haha. My mates and I laughed so hard at his pathetic little response, because there is no way in hell he would have spoken to me like that in real life.
They said the same as you - that he's lucky he lives in his safe little internet world.

Anyway, it's not a stupid question to ask about a link between the two. In fact to be curious about things shows a level of intelligence. People who call other people stupid are usually thick as f*#k in my experience.

I actually have both normal tinnitus and pulsatile tinnitus - and although I have a diagnosis for my pulsatile tinnitus, which is thankfully being operated on very soon, I couldn't help think that maybe there was a link between the two because I've never had any problems with my ears/hearing but once I developed pulsatile tinnitus, I very soon developed normal tinnitus too.

Steph <3

What is your diagnosis if you don't mind me asking?

 

[GoatSheep]

It can happen, if one develops hypertension. Having tinnitus and the realization can cause hypertension. Tinnitus = hypertension = pulsatile tinnitus in 3% of those with tinnitus, but most are 55, mostly 65 or older. Hypertension needs to cause a vein or artery problem by sending plaque to the carotid artery with having atherosclerosis or hypertension causes an abdominal aortic aneurysm, damaged aortic heart value or another part of the aortic vessel. From any of this, pulsatile tinnitus will be heard.

Another way, is that hypertension and it's physical relations such as improper blood flow can weaken the ears, so then something like noise exposure causes tinnitus easier. Then hypertension can cause pulsatile tinnitus as in ways mentioned in first paragraph.

Another way - whiplash or a head injury causing tinnitus as well as vein and artery problems of neck causing pulsatile tinnitus. Whiplash or a head injury can also cause problems within the head that can associate to either tinnitus, pulsatile tinnitus or both.

What Kendra said above can also be cause. Often doctors will say that this is the reason, because they don't want to explore. One needs to see an interventional radiologist and have neck and head studies, see an ENT, and for the older, also an electrocardiogram and radiological testing of the aortic and renal vessel.

Firstly, thanks for chiming in Greg. You have so much to deal with yourself, but you always offer so much help to others. You are greatly appreciated.

I'd say it's been about 6 months at least, but definitely after developing tinnitus, that I've noticed pulsatile tinnitus when laying down at night. I actually can't sleep on my ears anyway because of pain and discomfort (hyperacusis and/or TTTS related), but when I have tried laying on them I hear my heart beat thumping in my ear. I also feel my heart beating more pronounced when laying down.

I need to get my blood pressure checked. Around the first two months after I developed tinnitus it was fine. Since then I've let my diet go to crap and stopped exercising almost completely due to spiking. So it's possible this could be my issue.

I had whiplash, but it was when I was in elementary school. At one point in my twenties I woke up with a "crick in my neck" that took several days to resolve and had me walking around with my head held to the right side. I never went to the doctor about it. Nowadays (also post-tinnitus), I have some pretty pronounced crepitus in my neck and sometimes feel like I "hear it in my ears" as I turn my head.

Ive been taking 1mg Clonazepam nightly for a little over a year since developing tinnitus. I've read a little here and also on BenzoBuddies that people have developed pulsatile tinnitus after taking benzos or during withdrawal. So I'm wondering if that may be my cause.

Just tired of new ear issues developing...

 

[Backpacker]

I'd say it's been about 6 months at least, but definitely after developing tinnitus, that I've noticed pulsatile tinnitus when laying down at night. I actually can't sleep on my ears anyway because of pain and discomfort (hyperacusis and/or TTTS related), but when I have tried laying on them I hear my heart beat thumping in my ear. I also feel my heart beating more pronounced when laying down

Did you try sleeping on two-three pillows so your head stays elevated all night?

 

[GoatSheep]

Did you try sleeping on two-three pillows so your head stays elevated all night?

Yeah, I sleep on two pillows. I'm usually a side sleeper. Since I can't sleep on my ears I kind of slide the second pillow into the crook of my neck and lay in a way to keep my ears off the pillow.