Is Your Tinnitus Pitch Equal to the Hearing Frequency You Lost?

[Mario martz]

Is your tinnitus pitch equal to the hearing frequency you lost?

That's my doubt, when you experience tinnitus.

It's because you have some degree of hearing loss?

So what determines the pitch?

 

[Telis]

Yes mine matches hearing loss gaps, I'm sure this isn't uncommon.

 

[Mario martz]

its seems like the brain wants to
make up for the pitch or tone that youve lost.
is that even a theory?

 

[Fangen]

Is your tinnitus pitch equal to the hearing frequency you lost?

That's my doubt, when you experience tinnitus.

It's because you have some degree of hearing loss?

So what determines the pitch?

I have no idea. I don't know in what frequency that I have hearing loss since my ENT didnt want to test further than 8 hz.

 

[DebInAustralia]

My t freq matches my hearing loss

But i had a hearing loss long before i developed an awareness of t

 

[Mario martz]

My t freq matches my hearing loss

But i had a hearing loss long before i developed an awareness of t

This is quite interesting,
so you had hearing loss way before tinnitus.
did you get audiograms before and after onset?

 

[Ricardo1991]

its seems like the brain wants to
make up for the pitch or tone that youve lost.
is that even a theory?

Yes, that is a theory.
Not a very well supported theory but a theory nonetheless!

I saw a specialist a while ago and she explained to me a better theory of why we have tinnitus.
Basically, we have the hair cells in our ears, when sound passes through them they get bent and send a chemical to our brain that processes sound. When those hair cells are damaged by loud sounds they break or stay bent which sends the chemical to our brain that processes sound. However, we experience anxiety because we hear a noise that has no point of origin and our brain cannot figure out where this is coming from. Basically, TRT focuses on training yourself to let go of this noise and allowing it to exist without letting it bother you.

Now, this theory may be true in some instances, I find it hard to believe for everybody this is the case. I know that tinnitus can come about through many different ways; for instance someone can have a bad ear infection and be left with tinnitus.
My mom said she was in the recovery room after giving birth and when the air conditioning went off, her ear did too.
My friend's mom said that she got into a really horrible car accident and her ears were ringing constantly for 2 years and one day it just went away - so this can happen for some people!
1 brother said he was walking and he heard a boom! out of nowhere and he has a deep tinnitus sound.
Mine, I wasn't doing anything in particular and I suddenly woke up one morning with ringing in my ears.
I guess it's just how life rolls sometimes
Ricardo

 

[Mario martz]

Yes, that is a theory.
Not a very well supported theory but a theory nonetheless!

I saw a specialist a while ago and she explained to me a better theory of why we have tinnitus.
Basically, we have the hair cells in our ears, when sound passes through them they get bent and send a chemical to our brain that processes sound. When those hair cells are damaged by loud sounds they break or stay bent which sends the chemical to our brain that processes sound. However, we experience anxiety because we hear a noise that has no point of origin and our brain cannot figure out where this is coming from. Basically, TRT focuses on training yourself to let go of this noise and allowing it to exist without letting it bother you.

Now, this theory may be true in some instances, I find it hard to believe for everybody this is the case. I know that tinnitus can come about through many different ways; for instance someone can have a bad ear infection and be left with tinnitus.
My mom said she was in the recovery room after giving birth and when the air conditioning went off, her ear did too.
My friend's mom said that she got into a really horrible car accident and her ears were ringing constantly for 2 years and one day it just went away - so this can happen for some people!
1 brother said he was walking and he heard a boom! out of nowhere and he has a deep tinnitus sound.
Mine, I wasn't doing anything in particular and I suddenly woke up one morning with ringing in my ears.
I guess it's just how life rolls sometimes
Ricardo

Yes thats a good well known theory,
but still doesnt explain other cases :O
tinnitus is just a very weird thing.
then.. there is the theory where they say.. that if you can hear pretty well, maybe the damage is not the hair cell, is on the nerve... so who really knows?

 

[Ricardo1991]

@Mario martz yea, for sure!
You know, mine is weird; like it goes off when the weather changes. Like if a storm is coming in my ears will start to buzz. It just depends I guess; I've definitely had days where I can't hear it until I go to bed.
However, last night I took a long hot shower and turned up the heat and made the water fall on my neck. When I got out, it's almost like I didn't have any tinnitus for a while. I laid down and eventually started seeping back in but by that time I was already falling asleep.
Weird thing that in the shower, my left ear went off twice when I bent over.

 

[Mario martz]

@Mario martz yea, for sure!
You know, mine is weird; like it goes off when the weather changes. Like if a storm is coming in my ears will start to buzz. It just depends I guess; I've definitely had days where I can't hear it until I go to bed.
However, last night I took a long hot shower and turned up the heat and made the water fall on my neck. When I got out, it's almost like I didn't have any tinnitus for a while. I laid down and eventually started seeping back in but by that time I was already falling asleep.
Weird thing that in the shower, my left ear went off twice when I bent over.

Yes... its weird.. for example, today i woke up and i had no T, then i sleept 5 more minutes and it was back!
and it happends to me very often...
if the haircell were damage, wouldnt it be permanent and not fluctuate a lot?

 

[Vaba]

My top hearing loss is 10-15db at 4 and 6 kHz. It doesn't seem to clearly match either.

My good right ear has no loss and spectacular sound clarity, and the tinnitus in that ear is far louder than the "damaged" ear and sounds like a metallic, ever-changing whistle, also unable to be matched.

 

[Ricardo1991]

Yes... its weird.. for example, today i woke up and i had no T, then i sleept 5 more minutes and it was back!
and it happends to me very often...
if the haircell were damage, wouldnt it be permanent and not fluctuate a lot?

Yes! Exactly!
Others will disagree on this forum, which is fine. But I have met plenty of people in real life that have tinnitus from going to concerts and stuff. They say theirs doesn't change. It's just a constant eeeeeeeeeeee and static.
Ricardo

 

[Mario martz]

Yes! Exactly!
Others will disagree on this forum, which is fine. But I have met plenty of people in real life that have tinnitus from going to concerts and stuff. They say theirs doesn't change. It's just a constant eeeeeeeeeeee and static.
Ricardo

Well.... mine is a constant eeeeee and static.
but sometimes louder, other days i have to cover my ears to hear the.. eeeee
hahaha, its a weird weird illness or symptom

 

[Ricardo1991]

Well.... mine is a constant eeeeee and static.
but sometimes louder, other days i have to cover my ears to hear the.. eeeee
hahaha, its a weird weird illness or symptom

For sure! I know, it's ridiculous. The nice thing is that I can sleep pretty decently now without any sleep aids and stuff. I just get tired and stuff. Honestly, Let's just keep doing our thing. I go see movies, I laugh I go out; everything. Sure I can hear my Tinnitus but it is what it is.

 

[Mario martz]

For sure! I know, it's ridiculous. The nice thing is that I can sleep pretty decently now without any sleep aids and stuff. I just get tired and stuff. Honestly, Let's just keep doing our thing. I go see movies, I laugh I go out; everything. Sure I can hear my Tinnitus but it is what it is.

hahaha yes! i guess the first months are difficult.
last night the sound was louder than usual, but didnt freak out... eventually i feel sleep.
in the first months i would need background music.
right now to lazy to even play music hehehe

 

[Ricardo1991]

@Mario martz
Haha for real! It's annoying but honestly, it's not who I am.
Sure, it gets tough but as soon as we accept that we have this. It gets easier. I know people who have it and they said that they forget all about it until someone brings it up. Lol
Ricardo

 

[PaulBe]

is that even a theory?

Yes it is.

 

[DebInAustralia]

This is quite interesting,
so you had hearing loss way before tinnitus.
did you get audiograms before and after onset?

yes.

but not an extended one. (till after onset)

but as far as i know, pre and post audiograms are virtually unchanged.

 

[Mario martz]

yes.

but not an extended one. (till after onset)

but as far as i know, pre and post audiograms are virtually unchanged.

Ohh well at least that's a good sign, that it hasn't changed a lot, right?

 

[dpdx]

25db on 4khz but it feels like it much higher in pitch. I can hear it over faucets being turned up to the max.

 

[JohnAdams]

seems like it to me.

 

[Manny]

Yes, mine is at the "precipitous edge of the lesion" of my hearing loss, at about 14khz.
(terminology due https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2804091/)

 

[Tinniger]

I would be happy if I had an eeeeeee, and not those constant unrhythmic zips and zaps in my left ear, which sometimes merge into a sssss hissing.
Sometimes I think I don't have "normal" tinnitus.....