Ketamine Treatment Clinics & Experiences — Can Ketamine Cure Tinnitus?

So I've started trying microdosing ketamine through a legal mail to your home service. I've only just been upped to what they consider their full microdose ~120mg. 3rd day at that level l have nothing dramatic to report. It doesn't seem to make my tinnitus worse if I'm having a good day or better if I'm having a bad day. I try to focus a lot on acceptance and merging it into my normal human tinnitus in a silent room sound.

Anyway, if anything cool or bad happens, I'll report.
I have set an appointment with Joyous. Not sure if I will proceed but please keep us updated on your experience and results after you have been doing the therapy a little longer.
 
I have set an appointment with Joyous. Not sure if I will proceed but please keep us updated on your experience and results after you have been doing the therapy a little longer.
Absolutely. I mean I don't expect any real cure or improvement from this. It doesn't make thing worse for me and sometimes the disassociation properties are not unpleasant when it comes to shitty tinnitus.
 
Not my experience. No change in tinnitus or a slight lessening from the impact for a short while. This is doing microdoses and I'm weird so your mileage may vary.
I never tried a microdose. There are a large amount of reports of people, most who don't normally have tinnitus, having tinnitus while under the influence of Ketamine. This is people who get it in the clinics which is a fairly high dose usually. It is always temporary in this case though.
 
First, I am glad to see others who are dealing with a debilitating form of tinnitus. I have MS with a slew of symptoms but the worst is my tinnitus which may or may not be caused by MS.

I was originally looking for Ketamine treatment for depression which I do suffer from but then I thought of Ketamine as a potential treatment for my tinnitus as both often go hand in hand.

I did Ketamine for many years during my partying years in the early 2000s and I remember the calm I had when doing it, especially as I was coming out of the trip. I felt like all my emotional baggage was lifted off my shoulders and I was seeing the world clearly and full of optimism. Could Ketamine be what I need? The more I remember the effects from it, the more I am hopeful it could possibly work, at least for me. Does the injected form gives similar effects?

I live in Canada, any chance for me to try this? Like I said, this tinnitus is incredibly debilitating, prevents sleeping unless I take sleeping pills along with using masking sounds. Habituation is not working, I feel like a loser as all I hear is that habituation happens over time. But it's been over 7 years. Help.
 
First, I am glad to see others who are dealing with a debilitating form of tinnitus. I have MS with a slew of symptoms but the worst is my tinnitus which may or may not be caused by MS.

I was originally looking for Ketamine treatment for depression which I do suffer from but then I thought of Ketamine as a potential treatment for my tinnitus as both often go hand in hand.

I did Ketamine for many years during my partying years in the early 2000s and I remember the calm I had when doing it, especially as I was coming out of the trip. I felt like all my emotional baggage was lifted off my shoulders and I was seeing the world clearly and full of optimism. Could Ketamine be what I need? The more I remember the effects from it, the more I am hopeful it could possibly work, at least for me. Does the injected form gives similar effects?

I live in Canada, any chance for me to try this? Like I said, this tinnitus is incredibly debilitating, prevents sleeping unless I take sleeping pills along with using masking sounds. Habituation is not working, I feel like a loser as all I hear is that habituation happens over time. But it's been over 7 years. Help.
My boss is flying to Calgary to have the treatment done. It's a 6-week thing. It's more than just administering Ketamine, there are therapy sessions you need to take. It's also done in Toronto.
 
Habituation is not working, I feel like a loser as all I hear is that habituation happens over time. But it's been over 7 years. Help.
For what it is worth, for me habituation means I almost never break down in tears, no longer curl up in a fetal position, and can go to work in the mornings. That is my 'winning.'
 
Interesting article about someone who took part in a Ketamine trial. She reports that her tinnitus has been temporarily reduced by this drug.

Could Ketamine Cure Tinnitus? (Deborah Copaken, 2023)

I entered a clinical trial to see if ketamine would stop the constant ringing in my left ear. The catch? I'd have to spend 90 minutes, while tripping, completely immobile in an MRI.

The call to clinical trial, after two years of a high-pitched ringing in my left ear, came via an Instagram ad. Would I be willing to be a data point in a study at Columbia University by lying still in an MRI for ninety minutes, on two separate occasions, if it meant the possibility of quieting my tinnitus? Oh, and during one of those sessions, would I be willing to have ketamine, the dissociative anesthesia with hallucinogenic properties—also known by club kids as special K, super K, and vitamin K—injected into my veins?


(...)


How did I get this tinnitus-causing damage to the cochlear cells of my ear? Who the hell knows, but I have several worthy candidates. There was the toddler who screamed in my left ear in that enclosed car at the Wellfleet drive-in in the mid-70s, bursting my eardrum; a particularly loud David Bowie concert back in the mid-80s; the bomb that went off in my face in Afghanistan back in 1989, causing temporary hearing loss; my nearly complete loss of hearing to Covid; and the Covid vaccine, which has been linked to the sudden onset of tinnitus.

(...)

Anyway, whatever the cause of my tinnitus or anyone's, I just wanted the ringing in my ear to stop. And Dr. Martinez, an addiction studies specialist who once suffered from tinnitus herself after a long plane ride during which her eardrum burst, believes that the ways in which ketamine stimulates GABA and glutamate in the brain—the brain's brakes and accelerator, respectively—might be the key. Why? In a word, plasticity. Ketamine interacts with the NMDA receptor (N-methyl-D-aspartate), our brain's primary excitatory neurotransmitter. This neurotransmitter plays an integral role in synaptic plasticity, which is the mechanism believed to be at the basis of memory formation. Dr. Martinez explains all of this much better and more simply than I ever could in our interview below.



Martinez's study, as she also explains above, has been funded—both surprisingly and not—by the U.S. Department of Defense. Why the DoD? Because generations of soldiers exposed to loud explosions and noises currently suffer from tinnitus, which up until now has had no cure, only cognitive behavioral therapy and mindfulness training to (sorta kinda) learn to ignore it. But trust me: I'm as mindful as they come, and it is impossible to ignore tinnitus. So impossible that it has been correlated, especially in women, with a much higher rate of suicide.

So on a frigid January morning, at a loss for any better options, I showed up at the New York State Psychiatric Institute for my first consultation with Dr. Martinez and her lab. I filled out paperwork. I answered questions. I was told I'd be paid actual money to participate. Not a ton, but enough for two nice dinners out. Then I scheduled my dual sessions in the MRI, one during which I'd receive a placebo, the other during which I'd receive the ketamine. And no, I wouldn't be told which one I'd be receiving.

(...)

Lying completely still in an MRI for ninety minutes definitely does a number on the brain no matter whether any drugs are involved or not, plus you're forced to watch nature videos of Iceland. Lots of pretty fjords and swans. Inescapable, unless you close your eyes and sleep, as I was able to do, if beautiful. After my first infusion I felt woozy but intact enough to instruct the Uber driver to take me to the tennis bubble, where I promptly—if incorrectly—told my love that I was sure I'd received the ketamine. I even bragged about being able to hit the ball within the lines from time to time, all things and hallucinogens ingested considered.

But did my tinnitus go away? No. It did not. Though I dutifully answered all of the clinical questions in the daily online survey sent to me by Grassetti over the next ten mornings after my infusion, I was so frustrated by the still-loud volume of ringing in my ear, I nearly didn't go for my second infusion—the placebo, I was sure—because what was the point?

I'm so glad I did not bail. Because within ten minutes of the second infusion, I realized what a doofus I'd been. This time I was tripping. Hard. Not as hard as with LSD or mushrooms, and in a completely different, more mellow way, but my brain was opening up in that familiar hallucinogenic manner, and I could definitely feel it. All those pretty images of Iceland and swans? My eyes were too sensitive to light to watch them. Instead, I shut them and allowed my brain to make both its own beautiful images plus whatever random connections it wanted to make.

(...)

Then, it happened. Three days after my infusion of ketamine, the loud buzzing in my left ear went silent. Not completely silent, but silent enough, after two years of constant ringing, that I immediately sent the researchers an email: "Radical change in tinnitus today. It's still there, for sure, but it's much quieter." That quiet lasted two weeks, which thankfully coincided with my vacation, during which I was not awoken even once by any loud ringing in my ear. Then, recently, the tinnitus starting gradually growing louder again.

Both elated by this overnight transformation and distraught by its apparent end, I asked Dr. Martinez what I could do to help push forward her study as well as how I might continue getting ketamine infusions to keep the silence going. Regarding the former, she told me she's been stymied by a lack of participation in her study from females, particularly middle-aged women like me. In fact, most of her subjects have been youngish male musicians whose ears have been damaged by performing loud gigs and whose familiarity with the chemical properties of ketamine had, in many cases, already been—shall we say—well-established.

Regarding the latter—where might I get more ketamine, cheaply, legally, and fast—that's a different story. While ketamine clinics have been popping up all over the U.S., the cost is still prohibitive (between $400 and $2000 per infusion, depending on the dosage and time) and not covered (surprise surprise!) by insurance. And while ketamine was approved in 1970 as an anesthetic, using it for any other purpose is still considered off-label. Meaning, doctors can legally prescribe it for depression, PTSD, eating disorders, OCD, postpartum depression, bipolar disorder, and now tinnitus, but its use is not officially approved by the Food and Drug Administration for these conditions, despite ample and long-standing evidence of its efficacy for the relief of many of them.

(...)

To that end, this is my shouting into the void. If you are a woman in the New York City metropolitan area reading this, and you have tinnitus, and you are interested in being part of Dr. Martinez's study, please contact her team at (646) 774-7654 or email Alex.Grassetti@nyspi.columbia.edu. She—and I, and everyone else suffering from tinnitus—would greatly appreciate it.
 
but I refuse to believe there is literally nothing that can help.
That's something that I fall into at times no matter how much I try to doing avoid it. Occasionally I succeed :>

At this moment in time, it appears that TRT can at least make some people's perception of their tinnitus lesser. But what I really want to know is, what exactly is the physiological cause of tinnitus? And is its severity different among other people who have tinnitus because of the way their brains process the sound(s), or is their tinnitus different due to variations and degrees of damage to their ears?

It would seem that the first question is the big one. Most of us think tinnitus is caused from damage to the small hairs in the inner ear, which sets up a neurological sound pathway to the brain. Can that pathway be attenuated? If not, does that rule out any meaningful fixes for tinnitus?

Without knowing exactly what is causing tinnitus across the board, how can there be any chance of addressing it other than on the perception and coping level? Maybe the cause is as simple as damage to our inner ears. So any sort of drug treatment for tinnitus would wear off. No drug that I know of is capable of changing the neural pathway of tinnitus permanently on the physiological level, and I think I've tried pretty much all of them over my 70+ years at one time or another. The drugs leave our system and their effects stop.
 
Do you think Mindbloom can help tinnitus?
Not really sure to be honest. I'm thinking Ketamine therapy, if successful, MAY quiet brain signals or redirect or reconnect neural pathways. I'm convinced it's all about the brain and less to do with the ear in my case. So who knows? But it may be worth the try. Just looking for some feedback.
 

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