Magnesium

[Mister Muso]

Usually, Magnesium lactate and Magnesium carbonate used in small amount as extra for food and other supplements.

I think Magnesium glycinate penetrate the blood-brain barrier because relaxing effect of it.

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This graphic looks very useful.

Does anyone know which one of these corresponds to "chelated" magnesium?

 

[Phendran]

[QUOTE="Mister Muso, post: 468955, member: 37084"

Does anyone know which one of these corresponds to "chelated" magnesium?[/QUOTE]
My jar of chelated magnesium says "Magnesium Citrate" as the primary ingredient in the ingredient list.

 

[Charburchar]

Is it safe to take magnesium with turmeric and a general A-Z vitamin and mineral supplement?

 

[G H]

Is it safe to take magnesium with turmeric and a general A-Z vitamin and mineral supplement?

I don't see why not.

 

[lapidus]

And it's probably a good idea for most of us to take some (a highly absorbable kind otherwise it's just a laxative).

Off topic, but could you point me to one that is highly absorbable and not just a laxative? I just started taking magnesium and this stuff was pretty damn expensive and had good reviews so I'm hoping it's just not a laxative

 

[FGG]

Off topic, but could you point me to one that is highly absorbable and not just a laxative? I just started taking magnesium and this stuff was pretty damn expensive and had good reviews so I'm hoping it's just not a laxative

I used to give myself intramuscular magnesium injections and I also did liquid Magnesium Chloride orally (tastes atrocious). There are a lot of options but Magnesium Oxide is pretty much useless.

I found this, which may be helpful:

https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Magnesium-HealthProfessional/

 

[xyz]

Off topic, but could you point me to one that is highly absorbable and not just a laxative? I just started taking magnesium and this stuff was pretty damn expensive and had good reviews so I'm hoping it's just not a laxative

I am taking this, because I read somewhere it has good absorption and the ingredients should be safe (no old tires mixed in). I would be gladly pointed to some better alternative if such exists however.

 

[Dolgoruki]

Magnesium on an empty stomach reliably relaxes me and makes my tinnitus less intrusive. It's the one supplement that I can say for sure has a positive impact on tinnitus perception based on several pre-post observations.

 

[Drachen]

Figured I should drop by and post a tentative endorsement of Magnesium.

I've been trying for the last two weeks 400 mg daily of Magnesium Glycinate to what I consider good success. I've been taking it in the evening, separate from my other supplements, generally on an empty or light stomach, and close to bed. In general, I would say I am a lot less tense, and getting to sleep has been made easier.

I cannot say for sure to what extent if any it has contributed to my evenings being nicer, as I also typically drink herbal tea, take Melatonin, and chill out around this time. My circadian rhythm is also a lot more used to this pattern, so this could be a factor as well.

With regards to my symptoms, I can't really say if it's had any effect, positive or negative, in that regard. My left ear did start to act up a couple days later and has since been problematic, but that could have been a variety of things: the single Amitriptyline I took the night before, some loud noise I had been around, or just a change it decided to make. If anyone has any further conclusive stories about Magnesium affecting the sound, I'd love to hear it.

Also, if there are any former users of Magnesium Glycinate who have since moved on to a form they think is better, please let me know.

 

[Ryan Edwards]

I read that Magnesium Aspartate is best for tinnitus.

Has anyone tried that?

 

[Syb]

Hi everyone. I was wondering what kind of Magnesium would be best for me? Hoping someone can help me understand better as after browsing a few pages of this thread, I ended up more confused.

I have hearing loss induced tinnitus (from very long ago, it usually doesn't bother me at all) and a very recent somatic tinnitus (either from TMJ or neck issues, rather annoying) that brought some dysacusis too (simply debilitating). I'm mostly bothered by the new symptoms.

I had purchased Magnesium Citrate (haven't tried it yet) but based on a few posts here this might not be the best type of Magnesium for me after all...?

If someone can enlighten me, that'd be really kind of you. Thank you!

 

[Drachen]

Hi everyone. I was wondering what kind of Magnesium would be best for me?

Hey there, Syb.

What specifically are you hoping for Magnesium to do? If you want to take it simply in order to boost your Magnesium levels in case of a deficiency, then I would just take any one of the more bioavailable forms. As far as I can tell, anything that isn't oxide is alright in that department. You might just want to stick to foods rich in Magnesium instead if you're just worried about deficiency.

If you want a specific effect, such as sleep improvement or anxiety reduction, then you'll have to research the individual forms. I take Glycinate, which is supposed to be good for both sleep and anxiety, and I think it's the only supplement I've taken in which I could notice its intended effect. It's not a magic bullet, but it certainly does help! I have also heard this from other users here on the forum.

Citrate specifically from what I can tell is mostly to help your digestive system. Others you may want to consider are Malate, Taurate, or L-Threonate. I'm particularly considering trying L-Threonate considering it is cited as affecting the brain positively.

I'm sorry I can't really give you a conclusive answer, but I was surprised myself to learn how many different varieties of this supplement there are.

 

[Syb]

@Drachen, thanks so much for taking the time to write such an elaborate explanation. I truly appreciate it!

As my anxiety is off the charts recently and my sleep easily disturbed thanks to this new combo of somatic tinnitus + dysacusis, I think I'll return the Magnesium I have and swap it for the Glycinate.

Thanks again!

 

[Greg Sacramento]

I think I'll return the Magnesium I have and swap it for the Glycinate.

Yes, that's best for somatic tinnitus. Take a half tablet twice a day. Take one of those halves, an hour or so before going to bed. Leave a two hour window between taking Magnesium and prescription meds.

 

[Syb]

@Greg Sacramento, sorry to bother you over such a detail but, what's the recommended dosage, please?

I just realized the brand I was about to order is 200 mg capsules so I can't really cut them in half.

Any specific brands I should look for? I'm in Canada, so fewer options online and in stores than in the US, unfortunately.

Thanks in advance!

EDIT: actually, most options I see online are capsules... and my local drugstores have very little options when it comes to supplements.

 

[Drachen]

what's the recommended dosage, please?

I personally take 400 mg a day. Anything between 200 mg and 400 mg should be fine. I suppose it would depend on your body composition, tolerance, diet, and use case though.

 

[Syb]

@Drachen, oh okay, good to know!

I might have to settle for 200mg capsules after all because it's the only dosage I've found so far. Might just go for one capsule a day and eventually two if it's not enough / well tolerated.

Thanks for your feedback!

 

[Greg Sacramento]

@Syb, taking Magnesium just once a day, usually won't help with somatic tinnitus as muscles and joints will keep asking for more.

I sometimes use KAL Glycinate - 400 mg pills that can be found on Amazon. I break a pill - take half during the day and half before going to bed. It's needed to leave a 2 - 4 hour window from other prescription medications. Place Magnesium along side of a used med into internet search to see if there's interactions. A small amount of Calcium should be taken when using magnesium. I can't use much Calcium as it causes abdominal issues.

A highly professional study on somatic neck/jaw tinnitus, recommends 100mg of Glycinate Magnesium 6 times a day to receive a possible 50-60% reduction of somatic tinnitus??? Too much Magnesium like all vitamins can have side effects for some. I do take a full 400 mg Glycinate Magnesium tablet one hour before being in a possible situation of loud noise - such as at the dentist.

When viewing side effect lists of something taken by mouth or a physical therapy with tinnitus, somatic or pulsatile, a complete list is never given. When I read medical research studies on specific issues, it's often stated not to take this or do this physical therapy. I have posted many concerns such as too much vitamin A can cause hypertension and is a concern with intracranial hypertension. The retina and white area of eyes can be become stressed.

 

[Drachen]

A small amount of Calcium should be taken when using Magnesium. I can't use much Calcium as it causes abdominal issues.

Does this mean I should be taking my Magnesium Glycinate with a glass of milk? I've just been doing it with water. I had no idea about this potential need for Calcium as well.

I have posted many concerns such as too much vitamin A can cause hypertension and is a concern with intracranial hypertension. The retina and white area of eyes can be become stressed.

Do you have an estimated value on what may be "too much Vitamin A"? I am going to be taking it as a supplement since my vision has been a bit wonky lately, but it's only 1500 mcg (~5000 IU). I've seen that 10000 IU is generally recommended as a maximum daily intake.

 

[Greg Sacramento]

@Drachen 1500 mcg is fine without hypertension. Consider potatoes on occasion to get some Potassium. You most likely don't need to take Calcium tablets. Some females need a small amount of Calcium with Magnesium use that have weak bones. If so, Calcium should be taken 2 hours before taking Magnesium.

 

[Drachen]

@Drachen 1500 mcg is fine without hypertension. Consider potatoes on occasion to get some Potassium. You most likely don't need to take Calcium tablets. Some females need a small amount of Calcium with Magnesium use that have weak bones. If so, Calcium should be taken 2 hours before taking Magnesium.

Thank you very much! I'll keep this in mind going forward. One of the last things I want to do is take supplements and not have them properly absorbed/utilized due to prerequisites I'm not meeting or situations in which they should and shouldn't be taken.

 

[Syb]

...I can't possibly have seen a difference after just one pill of 200mg, right? It's gotta be placebo...? Theoretically, when should one expect to see a difference for somatic tinnitus AND on the muscles, approximately / from your experience?

I swear I just had one of my best / least reactive days in weeks. So much so that I decided to risk exposing myself to sound after three days in (mostly complete) silence and managed to listen to podcasts on my favorite meditation app (on my phone's speakers) for nearly 3 hours... at decent volume... even moving my phone on my left (my distortion ear) with very little distortion and no noticeable increase and tinnitus.

Whether or not this was all a coincidence, I can't really say... but I was so grateful I cried tears of relief to finally be able to listen to something without my brain or ears freaking out.

On the other hand, I can't say it made my actual muscles relax that much (or at all) as my neck was still super stiff throughout the whole day...

But still. It was a nice little break from loud tinnitus, reactivity and distortions so, yay.

 

[kingsfan]

Citrate specifically from what I can tell is mostly to help your digestive system. Others you may want to consider are Malate, Taurate, or L-Threonate. I'm particularly considering trying L-Threonate considering it is cited as affecting the brain positively.

I've been taking Magnesium Threonate since last October. It has done nothing for my tinnitus. I'm just taking it now to see if it helps lessen my headaches. The jury is still out but I think it's had a positive effect so far.

 

[Drachen]

I've been taking Magnesium Threonate since last October. It has done nothing for my tinnitus. I'm just taking it now to see if it helps lessen my headaches. The jury is still out but I think it's had a positive effect so far.

Any noteworthy effect on your anxiety and/or sleeping quality? This is mostly what I'm taking the glycinate for at the moment, as well as any hearing protection it may provide.

 

[kingsfan]

Any noteworthy effect on your anxiety and/or sleeping quality?

No I haven't noticed any effects on anxiety or sleep.

 

[Shizune]

I've been out of Magnesium for a few days now and I'm getting burning in my left ear, which rarely happens. I had been taking it daily for several months and never missed a day. So I guess it actually does work.

My order is delayed. I usually take chelated bisglycinate, so I'm settling for oxide from the grocery store right now to hold me over. Worried about how that will affect me.

 

[ajc]

I'm settling for oxide from the grocery store right now to hold me over. Worried about how that will affect me.

Magnesium Oxide is the worst form of them all. The absorption rate is awful, and the only effect you get will be placebo.

Your grocery story only had the Oxide form?

 

[Shizune]

Magnesium Oxide is the worst form of them all. The absorption rate is awful, and the only effect you get will be placebo.

Your grocery story only had the Oxide form?

Yes apparently. I can't leave the house so my friend had to go. Sent me a picture and that's all that was there. It's the only grocery store nearby too. It was either that or citrate, and they are both bad.

Why even bother selling them if they are just diarrhea pills? Ugh.

 

[Marin]

Reading all of this testimony about how Magnesium has helped others really makes me want to give it another try, but I always get dizzy spells and feel faint after taking it for about two days. I assume it's low blood pressure, but I'm not 100% sure.

Does anyone have any tips on how I could still take Magnesium and avoid these dizzy spells? Do I also need to supplement with something like Potassium or eat more Sodium to keep electrolyte levels balanced?

 

[Nathan Chapman]

I changed my entire diet. I went from various processed foods to whole foods rich in Iron, Magnesium, and B12. I was near 100mg of the 400mg recommended daily. Now I am floating around 300-400mg by eating spinach, bananas, blueberries, raspberries, and 70% dark chocolate sweetened by Stevie daily.

My stress level impacts my T. Days where I have managed to lower my stress; the T has almost wholly disappeared.

Making these life changes has helped tremendously. When my T first appeared, I was a wreck and contemplated all sorts of wild shit.